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An ex-friend emerges from the past...

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Hey Guys:

I had this female friend (Marie) that I met over ten years ago whom I had considered one of my very dearest friends because she was very wise and gave pretty good advice. Also, she became very protected of me when it came to guys trying to approach me. Well, almost two years ago, I was preparing for my finals exams before graduation from college when Marie contacted me one evening to ask me for a favor. Her oldest brother birthday was being celebrated the upcoming weekend and she wanted to burn some CDs that featured male singing groups from 50's, 60's and early 70's and she wanted them by the end of that week. I told her that due to time constraints, I would not be able to complete her request. She begged and pleaded with me to try to make additional time out of my busy schedule to do her this favor and she would be willing to pay me for doing so.

Since I do consider myself to be a good friend, I found myself staying up two nights in a row within the wee hours of the morning (up until 4:00-5:00 a.m.) going through my vast CD collection which by the way consist of more than 10.000 CDs of all genres of music. Therefore, it was not a problem for me to fulfill her request, but it would take a lot of time to do so. Once I contacted her to get some information as to what groups he would prefer as well as the genre, I burned over 7 eighty minute CDs. My burner has a couple of special features on it that results in the finished product sounding as if you bought the CD from a music store or suppliers.

So, upon completion, I contacted Marie to inform her that I have 7 CDs in my collection that I was sure her brother would be pleased with. Now mind you, I do not use any average blank CDs that are available at various department stores, I special order these CDs and they are quite expensive but the sound quality is outstanding which makes them worth the price in my opinion. Marie asked me how much would I charge her and to make matters worst, she would not be able to pick them up and wanted me to send them via Fed Express if I did not have time to bring them to her home. After taking a deep breath, I replied with that I would charge her $10.00 per CD and an extra $15.00 for Fed Ex charges. All of a sudden, there was complete silence from her end of the phone. When I inquire if this is a problem for her, she responded with stating that since she lives off of a monthly Social Security income and she takes care of her ailing mother, she would not be able to afford the price I requested. With that being said, I opened my heart to her by saying that I would not charge her for the music and she could just pay me for the Fed Ex charges. She insisted that if I lower the price of the music that she would pay not only the new amount but she would take care of the mailing charges as well. Nonetheless, I dropped the price of the music to $5.00 per CD and additional mailing charges upon which she was fine with. However, after mailing the package, she did contact me to tell me that she received it and how pleased her brother was with the music. Unfortunately, as I stated earlier, it's been close to two years now and I have not heard a word from her or received any funds for my finished product. Needless to say, I focused my energies on my exams which by the way, I aced them all at that time and I decided to let the matter go as well as the friendship.

To conclude, last weekend, I received an e-mail from Marie after all this time requesting if I would be available to meet her for a cup of coffee? I did not respond to this request immediately and honestly, I did anticipate on responding at all until I spoke to my sister about it and she thought that I should arrange to meet with her just to hear what she has to say and if I'm not pleased with what she says, then I should leave the coffee shop and closed the matter with her altogether. What really got me to start having second thoughts was the other day, I received yet another e-mail message from Marie requesting my phone number because the number she has for me ... she did not get a response whenever she dialed it. This bought concern for me because if I have already given her my schedule and availability and since initially, e-mail messages was how she contacted me, then what else is she looking for??? So, I bring this forth to the forum, what do you suggest? Thank you for taking the time to read and respond this ....JW :thinking:
 

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I hope you can see with the benefit of hindsight that using audiophile grade discs for a party mix that might only be played once was a teensy bit over the top. You did that with the best of intentions of course but try to see it from the position of the average listener who can hardly tell the differance between mp3 and wav. Next time you'll know not to try so hard when its not going to be appreciated. Life's for learning the hard way.
By all means meet up for coffee but at a time and place of your convenience and make damn sure she's paying the cafe bill.
 

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Ah the dangers of mixing friendship and money. My personal policy is that whenever I do something for my friends or family, I don't expect any payment in return. If I want some sort of business transaction, I will start a business. This tends to keep life less complicated. That's just my personal way of doing things, though. Doesn't mean you should live the same way.

Since it's been 2 years, she probably just wants to re-connect with you. I think I know how you feel, as I would also remember this past incident. However, she may have tried to put it behind her and just wants to be friends again. On the other hand, sure she may have another request for you, but you are now wiser and can say "no", right?! :)
 

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Ah the dangers of mixing friendship and money. My personal policy is that whenever I do something for my friends or family, I don't expect any payment in return. If I want some sort of business transaction, I will start a business. This tends to keep life less complicated. That's just my personal way of doing things, though. Doesn't mean you should live the same way.

Since it's been 2 years, she probably just wants to re-connect with you. I think I know how you feel, as I would also remember this past incident. However, she may have tried to put it behind her and just wants to be friends again. On the other hand, sure she may have another request for you, but you are now wiser and can say "no", right?! :)

Thanks james1981 for your response to my initial post. What I like to clarify to you is that when I discovered that she was having difficulty with my initial payment for the music CDs, i did offer to her that if she is having financial difficulties that I would just waive the money altogether. However, she insisted on paying me something. Besides, I had mentioned to her that I was going through a very difficult period in regards to time and she was the one that had informed me that she would be willing to pay whatever I decided. Therefore, you can only clarify to an individual so much in order for them to understand...and then it was not me who fell from the grace of earth after receiving my music..she was...so I have nothing to feel bad for...as far as I was concerned..it was over...she lost a friend and I have moved on without giving her a thought....thanks again...JW
 

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I hope you can see with the benefit of hindsight that using audiophile grade discs for a party mix that might only be played once was a teensy bit over the top. You did that with the best of intentions of course but try to see it from the position of the average listener who can hardly tell the differance between mp3 and wav. Next time you'll know not to try so hard when its not going to be appreciated. Life's for learning the hard way.
By all means meet up for coffee but at a time and place of your convenience and make damn sure she's paying the cafe bill.

Thank you for response to my initial post dargelos: However, I have to respond to your mentioning that I went a teensy over the top with the quality of disc that I used. I did not used those for her benefit...these are the quality of discs that I used all the time for my personal use and those few whom have been privilege to receive my mixes. I do nothing half-ass...the quality of those CDs represent me in the most way because I consider myself to be someone who takes pride in whatever I do that my reflect on my character. The few individuals that I have made mixes/playlist for do play those CDs a lot due to the fact of the quality and they are very much appreciative of my efforts. Even if her brother decides to play them once, nonetheless, I am represented very well with the finished product. Thanks again..JW
 

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It's hard work being a perfectionist. If pride in a job in a job well done makes you feel good about yourself then I'm glad to hear that. Perhaps I'm wrong in thinking that the main reason for using the top of the range blanks is the way they don't deteriorate, they should still sound just as good in 200 years time if anyone still has a cd player by then.
 

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At best we are here for a good 80 years. And anything near or beyond that is usually confined by frailty and reduced means. We are not here for billions of years. In short, treat this time like the miracle it is. Boring and difficult as it may be, it IS still the one best miracle you will ever experience.

In that light, forgive. Move on. Be bigger than the cost of paid for and forgotten cash, spent on plastic. It is nothing. How you are treated is something though. So the hurt has more to do in how you've been valued than the value of things. I'm not saying go into this like a blank slate or doormat.

If something happens in the future that tests your value to her, then by all means move on. But other than that, be big. Enjoy what friendships you can. This is a precious journey worth getting 'right' the first time.
 

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It's hard work being a perfectionist. If pride in a job in a job well done makes you feel good about yourself then I'm glad to hear that. Perhaps I'm wrong in thinking that the main reason for using the top of the range blanks is the way they don't deteriorate, they should still sound just as good in 200 years time if anyone still has a cd player by then.

Thanks for your response dargelos: However, I do not consider myself a perfectionist...I just don't like doing anything half assed and I always put my best foot forward when it comes to putting my best efforts forth. I just like taking pride in myself in every capacity of what I do....and who knows, maybe the CDs will still be around in 200 years time...the LPs and cassettes are back in style and who would ever thought they would???...haha:rofl:
 

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If Marie is a true friend as you say, you should definitely meet her. It would be a sin will lose a friendship established, without having the opportunity to clarify any misunderstandings.
Remember the love often is consumed and vanishes, a true friend is forever.
 

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At best we are here for a good 80 years. And anything near or beyond that is usually confined by frailty and reduced means. We are not here for billions of years. In short, treat this time like the miracle it is. Boring and difficult as it may be, it IS still the one best miracle you will ever experience.

In that light, forgive. Move on. Be bigger than the cost of paid for and forgotten cash, spent on plastic. It is nothing. How you are treated is something though. So the hurt has more to do in how you've been valued than the value of things. I'm not saying go into this like a blank slate or doormat.

If something happens in the future that tests your value to her, then by all means move on. But other than that, be big. Enjoy what friendships you can. This is a precious journey worth getting 'right' the first time.

Thanks for your response...I have to say that I have forgave her right after the incident ...however... I move on...but I don't kiss ass to get along with no one. In fact...I can converse with her now...but I do not run after no one to meet with them after the fact of her initially contacting me after a substantial period of time. The bottom line is this...if I have not forgave her..I would not agreed to meet her :thumbs up:
 

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If Marie is a true friend as you say, you should definitely meet her. It would be a sin will lose a friendship established, without having the opportunity to clarify any misunderstandings.
Remember the love often is consumed and vanishes, a true friend is forever.

Hey Buddy: Thanks for responding to my post...I just want to say that in regard to you mentioning that it would be a sin to lose a friendship that has been established..well...I feel that if we had a true friendship then things would not have taken this turn. In the sense of her waiting all this time to contact me and leave things hanging the way she did. Again, I have forgiven her but I have moved on with my life and I feel that if she was a true friend...she would not have let the situation at a stand still..she would have done everything to correct it at that moment especially when I extended my generosity through a very difficult time on my part. One more thing...again...I did not stop the contact with her...she did it with me after she received the CDs,,,nonetheless...I did extend my availability when she contacted me...and yet...she attempted to make that a difficult task on something that should have been a simple process. Thanks again...:thumbs up:
 
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