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Fatherly Advice

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I'm here again asking for your opinion and advice concerning matters of the heart and life in general. I recently met someone I liked (let's face it, not easy to do). He's short, stocky, dark haired with brown eyes and a cleft in his chin that gives him an old Hollywood look. The conversation was nice and chemistry was certainly developing, until he mentioned one thing. He had a kid. At twenty seven, he had a five year old daughter. I don't know why but somehow this was like a cold shower. I simply did not see that coming."Why did it matter?", I asked myself. Maybe the situation concerned me because I've never been attracted to a man who was a real father and not just a "Daddy". Maybe I'm afraid that I'm not mature enough to handle a man and a child at the same time. My questions are these: Have you dated a man with children before? Are you a single gay parent? How do men treat you when you tell them? Btw..I have his number. I just haven't called him yet (I kinda feel shitty about that).
 
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I am a father. I was married for about twenty years. During my marriage I was always faithful to my wife. We got three kids, a girl and two boys. I am divorced since more than seven years. Living as a bisexual it is sometimes difficult to handle your feelings. Since my divorce the book of female love is closed for me and I had only male contacts. And here we come to the crucial point of your question. What do you want? I have contacts with men, I consider them as friends, I have sex with them, but I have no intention to start a relationship. I feel totally happy living without a relationship. I raised my kids after the divorce. The youngest boy still lives with me. We respect each other’s privacy, so there is no need for me to tell things like last Sunday I spent my night with Peter or so. Yet I have a dearly bond with my kids. We love each other, it couldn’t be better.
However when you want a relationship in a form that you want to live together, things may be different. My kids know about my gay feelings and adventures. I did not tell them, but when you love each other you just know. It doesn’t bother them. But when I share my life with another man they have to share their knowledge with their friends. That could make things more difficult for them.
 

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Thank you for sharing your story. It means a lot to me. I don't think I'm ready to move in (that much is certain) but still confused as to what to do. It is so hard finding someone you want to spend real time with. The daughter thing was just so unexpected. Again i appreciate your view. Hope more will respond.
 

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And you're totally fogged in your head
If you were serious right now
When you said
That "it's because
They will be bullied in school"
'Cause that means you let the bullies set the rules


(The Ark - Father Of A Son)

I couldn't help but think of this :) At least the kid is young and will get used to anything more quickly than an older child might. Can't offer fatherly advice, just another's who's been in the same situation. For me it was a deal breaker in the end because I was too young, not 20 yet while he was in his 30s and had several kids. We were way too far apart in our life situations. That's the thing you need to think about, and whether you are ready to commit to a relationship not only with the father but with the child too because she's pretty young still. This is assuming the relationship is more than fuck buddies or something like that with the father.

Even if you wouldn't move in, the child is in his life. Are things like him talking about her or having to cancel because she got sick etc deal breakers for you? Being a real father and a "Daddy" are very different things.. the latter would need some designing to fit into a life with children, but other couples with children have managed before :) If you really like the man and you are in a place in your life that you might settle down with a family, you lose nothing if you try, but possibly a lot if you don't.

There's men with children here, hopefully you'll get more answers :)
 
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I'm 35 years old, just turned 35 Last June, I have a 15 years old daughter and a 10 years old son and a 25 years old boyfriend that I have been with for 5 years... so if you think that the dude you met was young to have a 5 years old daughter :rofl: I've just beat that. I had my daughter I was just turning 20 (not necessarily on purpose but we don't aboard mission in my family ;)), got my cute little boy I was 25 (he was totally wanted). So now you are reading this from a young double time daddy.

I have met Alex 5 years ago, he was 19 and I was 29, we we're at a party, he was that poor depressive super hot dude that needed somebody to speak with and I happen to be that somebody, when I met him though I was already in relationship with the mother of my son, another quite cute Filipino girl, but she was planning to go back to school and perhaps move a little away. Now I always have been bisexual but never was too much into a steady relationship with a dude. I always have been really sexually attracted by dudes but emotionally; not at all. Any dudes, back then, proposing me a steady relationship was getting a categorical NO as an answer (was I scared of being gay... hell no I did 5 years of gay pornography; I was just not interested). Alex is a blond Australian/Maui dude... super hot, but beauty was not his only issue he was depressive and suicidal (by the way I have been given right from Alex to share this story). Was Alex beauty convince me to become a couple? No, if I had to fuck the dude I would have fucked the dude and basta! Alex reminded me of the lost boys of the fantastic story of Peter Pan (my favorite of all because I was also a lost boy as a kid), he was confused, got out of a rocky relationship, couldn't find love and was continually used (sexually) by others... we became friends and when my son's Mother got away to another city for study... we nicely break up and immediately I've moved to Alex. So that's how Alex came into my life. He is my first real gay relationship, I always was with women.

Alex wasn't right away introduced to my kids, he knew I had a son but he wasn't aware of that 10 years old first child... in fact it took a year of our relationship before I agreed for Alex to meet my children. - You may question yourself about going into a relationship with a dude that has children, but trust me on this one this, it's quite often a double sided arrow. And this is 3 time more true in a Male/Male relationship.The reason why I waited this long was, of course because, I was not completely comfortable with Alex physical awesomeness (he's hot and no I am no longer showing picture of him) having sex with this dude is a bliss every time. I needed time before being able to see if this was true love (not just a sexual trip because he's too good to fuck lol), if I could trust this Blondy locks enough to bring him into my family.

He was trustworthy enough and I never regretted the day I spoke with Alex about my two children, he learned that I had a older daughter along with my son and that I was preparing my children to eventually meet him. My children know that daddy likes both men and women, never hid this fact to my children and thus from a very young age, however neither of them really saw me with a dude before they meet with Alex. Therefore, it was imperative to prepare them... and this is why I gave myself a year to accomplish such meeting. This year also serve me and Alex to see if our relationship could work.

So Alex and I end up moving together, and it was accepted that the children would visit us once every two weekends, and they would come both at the same time - yes, I should mention that my daughter and my son are not from the same mother.My daughter is mixed with Venezuelan and My son is Filipino/black, but both of my children love each other very much and they understand that they are brother and sister. Now it was time for Alex vs. the Children, my daughter was 10 turning on 11 and my son was 5 tuning on 6. In my case my children immediately adopted Alex. My son today at 10 years old idealize Alex a lot, My daughter had a major crush on Alex when she turned 13... and Alex who didn't know whether he would be comfortable with the kids or not loved them back quickly too. I was lucky because it could have turned really bad... but Alex did love children. When Alex turned 23, I have officially made him uncle of my children, and this year Josh, my boy have asked to have Alex's name (Alexander) hyphenated to his name, he is now called "Josh-Alexander".

Alex became an authority figure for my children, they obviously know that Alex doesn't have all rights but he sure does have enough rights to deal with my child... this is of course a beautiful story (a real one) but in between things haven't been easy. As I said earlier My daughter had a major teen crush on Alex when she turned 13, and Alex felt so uncomfortable that he wanted to leave the place... but I did convince him to stay and explains to my daughter that this was an impossible match... first legally and second Alex is gay and he's you're dad's lover. My son who loves Alex like a big brother would more often listen to Alex than me ;), well nice but I've got to say that it did annoy me at first because although I love Alex a lot, my children are still my children and it's Alex who explained to my son that he need to first ask permission to his dad before going to ask permission to Alex for about anything LOL. I know that if I break up with Alex my children will ask to see him... after all he his officially my children's uncle, this can't be removed easily.

So there you have it... this was the story of me having children, a hot dude that became uncle of my child. If you go in a relationship with a dude that has a children... what really scares you? What is the issue really? Can't share your dude with somebody's else love... you don't like the fact of not being N# 1... As I told to Alex my children comes first, but he is so closed behind that you don't know where my children start and where Alex finish. For 5 years this dude have been helping me raising my child (now what can a 21 years old college surfer/dude can teach to children? A lot actually. What Alex have learned? That he has very good parenting skills. Did this affect our sex life? Well obviously when the children are home the only sex allowed would be in the shower if needed penetration, or late at night behind a locked door room for something less noisy (because both Alex and I are moaners) but he does moan much much louder than I do LOL.

The other things you need to think about is the children themselves... now my children are old enough and they both attend school... my daughter was already attending school and so was my boy moving to 1st year, they would sometimes get teased because their dad is a gay dude, but my daughter found a way to fight the bickering and she asked Alex to be her show and tell project... she wanted her uncle to come and speak about Australia, Surf and being Homosexual (including the part how Alex almost succeed killing himself). Now I said it Alex is blond, hot and sexy so every girl would drools, guys would be a little jealous but still interested with the Australian and Surf part and this way she shush forever the laughter because she did invite both of us for career day were Alex got to speak about his study as a nurse, and I explained my Network admin skills.

So gay couple with children does bring a little spice to your life... but one advice if you go for the dude... don't get between him with education of his children... I gave "carte blanche" to Alex this is because I trust him blindly but this is not the case with everyone. And my child spoke so much of Alex that we had to make a supper where Mothers were invited to join.

If you are not ready to share your BF with his parental responsibility, well don't call the dude.:no: If you are... tell him you fear or concerns about him being a dad... don't play games we're parents... we have a "attitude" detector embedded in us, it grows stronger more alert as the years go by.:p
 
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Some perspective:

You met a guy, got his phone number, and now you're stalled trying to figure out if you are step-parent material? I propose that you are over-thinking this. Just a bit.

The guy is attractive and you enjoyed being with him. The next step is a chat and maybe a date. That's the question at hand.

You don't know where this is going to go and you won't unless you make that call. He could become a great friend. He could be the love of your life. Maybe he'll break your heart, or you'll break his.

Don't miss what's ahead because you are trying to protect yourself. Nobody's asking you to marry the guy - just have coffee or go out and do something fun. There are a million possibilities from there - a lot of them quite good. One thing is for certain - if you throw away this opportunity you have nothing.

Life has just given you a wonderful gift. Say "yes", and see where it goes.
 

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Topdog, thank you so much for your perspective. The child thing is hard for me. Coffee is easy. I just don't know if I can separate the two..
 

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I'm 35 years old, just turned 35 Last June, I have a 15 years old daughter and a 10 years old son and a 25 years old boyfriend that I have been with for 5 years... so if you think that the dude you met was young to have a 5 years old daughter :rofl: I've just beat that. I had my daughter I was just turning 20 (not necessarily on purpose but we don't aboard mission in my family ;)), got my cute little boy I was 25 (he was totally wanted). So now you are reading this from a young double time daddy.

I have met Alex 5 years ago, he was 19 and I was 29, we we're at a party, he was that poor depressive super hot dude that needed somebody to speak with and I happen to be that somebody, when I met him though I was already in relationship with the mother of my son, another quite cute Filipino girl, but she was planning to go back to school and perhaps move a little away. Now I always have been bisexual but never was too much into a steady relationship with a dude. I always have been really sexually attracted by dudes but emotionally; not at all. Any dudes, back then, proposing me a steady relationship was getting a categorical NO as an answer (was I scared of being gay... hell no I did 5 years of gay pornography; I was just not interested). Alex is a blond Australian/Maui dude... super hot, but beauty was not his only issue he was depressive and suicidal (by the way I have been given right from Alex to share this story). Was Alex beauty convince me to become a couple? No, if I had to fuck the dude I would have fucked the dude and basta! Alex reminded me of the lost boys of the fantastic story of Peter Pan (my favorite of all because I was also a lost boy as a kid), he was confused, got out of a rocky relationship, couldn't find love and was continually used (sexually) by others... we became friends and when my son's Mother got away to another city for study... we nicely break up and immediately I've moved to Alex. So that's how Alex came into my life. He is my first real gay relationship, I always was with women.

Alex wasn't right away introduced to my kids, he knew I had a son but he wasn't aware of that 10 years old first child... in fact it took a year of our relationship before I agreed for Alex to meet my children. - You may question yourself about going into a relationship with a dude that has children, but trust me on this one this, it's quite often a double sided arrow. And this is 3 time more true in a Male/Male relationship.The reason why I waited this long was, of course because, I was not completely comfortable with Alex physical awesomeness (he's hot and no I am no longer showing picture of him) having sex with this dude is a bliss every time. I needed time before being able to see if this was true love (not just a sexual trip because he's too good to fuck lol), if I could trust this Blondy locks enough to bring him into my family.

He was trustworthy enough and I never regretted the day I spoke with Alex about my two children, he learned that I had a older daughter along with my son and that I was preparing my children to eventually meet him. My children know that daddy likes both men and women, never hid this fact to my children and thus from a very young age, however neither of them really saw me with a dude before they meet with Alex. Therefore, it was imperative to prepare them... and this is why I gave myself a year to accomplish such meeting. This year also serve me and Alex to see if our relationship could work.

So Alex and I end up moving together, and it was accepted that the children would visit us once every two weekends, and they would come both at the same time - yes, I should mention that my daughter and my son are not from the same mother.My daughter is mixed with Venezuelan and My son is Filipino/black, but both of my children love each other very much and they understand that they are brother and sister. Now it was time for Alex vs. the Children, my daughter was 10 turning on 11 and my son was 5 tuning on 6. In my case my children immediately adopted Alex. My son today at 10 years old idealize Alex a lot, My daughter had a major crush on Alex when she turned 13... and Alex who didn't know whether he would be comfortable with the kids or not loved them back quickly too. I was lucky because it could have turned really bad... but Alex did love children. When Alex turned 23, I have officially made him uncle of my children, and this year Josh, my boy have asked to have Alex's name (Alexander) hyphenated to his name, he is now called "Josh-Alexander".

Alex became an authority figure for my children, they obviously know that Alex doesn't have all rights but he sure does have enough rights to deal with my child... this is of course a beautiful story (a real one) but in between things haven't been easy. As I said earlier My daughter had a major teen crush on Alex when she turned 13, and Alex felt so uncomfortable that he wanted to leave the place... but I did convince him to stay and explains to my daughter that this was an impossible match... first legally and second Alex is gay and he's you're dad's lover. My son who loves Alex like a big brother would more often listen to Alex than me ;), well nice but I've got to say that it did annoy me at first because although I love Alex a lot, my children are still my children and it's Alex who explained to my son that he need to first ask permission to his dad before going to ask permission to Alex for about anything LOL. I know that if I break up with Alex my children will ask to see him... after all he his officially my children's uncle, this can't be removed easily.

So there you have it... this was the story of me having children, a hot dude that became uncle of my child. If you go in a relationship with a dude that has a children... what really scares you? What is the issue really? Can't share your dude with somebody's else love... you don't like the fact of not being N# 1... As I told to Alex my children comes first, but he is so closed behind that you don't know where my children start and where Alex finish. For 5 years this dude have been helping me raising my child (now what can a 21 years old college surfer/dude can teach to children? A lot actually. What Alex have learned? That he has very good parenting skills. Did this affect our sex life? Well obviously when the children are home the only sex allowed would be in the shower if needed penetration, or late at night behind a locked door room for something less noisy (because both Alex and I are moaners) but he does moan much much louder than I do LOL.

The other things you need to think about is the children themselves... now my children are old enough and they both attend school... my daughter was already attending school and so was my boy moving to 1st year, they would sometimes get teased because their dad is a gay dude, but my daughter found a way to fight the bickering and she asked Alex to be her show and tell project... she wanted her uncle to come and speak about Australia, Surf and being Homosexual (including the part how Alex almost succeed killing himself). Now I said it Alex is blond, hot and sexy so every girl would drools, guys would be a little jealous but still interested with the Australian and Surf part and this way she shush forever the laughter because she did invite both of us for career day were Alex got to speak about his study as a nurse, and I explained my Network admin skills.

So gay couple with children does bring a little spice to your life... but one advice if you go for the dude... don't get between him with education of his children... I gave "carte blanche" to Alex this is because I trust him blindly but this is not the case with everyone. And my child spoke so much of Alex that we had to make a supper where Mothers were invited to join.

If you are not ready to share your BF with his parental responsibility, well don't call the dude.:no: If you are... tell him you fear or concerns about him being a dad... don't play games we're parents... we have a "attitude" detector embedded in us, it grows stronger more alert as the years go by.:p
that is just the cuttest little story ever :) have fun x :D
 

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Topdog, thank you so much for your perspective. The child thing is hard for me. Coffee is easy. I just don't know if I can separate the two..

If you keep the door closed, you will not discover other worlds. X_X

Sometimes you need to pass through the door to see if the risk is real. ;)
 

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Say YES Langston. If @ any point it's not exactly what you need it to be, then and only then - say NO. I have to agree with TopDog's advice, life is short... make the MOST of it!
 
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