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Hey Guys:

I hope you all had a great weekend and all is well within your lives...

I have a sibling issue that has drawn great concern for me in the worst way. As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I am labeled as the "outcast" within my family due to my being a gay man. As time progressed, I did not put any focus on what they thought or how they felt. My main concern was my happiness first and foremost. My family have caused me a lot of hurt, pain and scars that within time, I've adapted to them by moving away from their environment and setting my own path as a strong individual.

My problem is this...I've mentioned that I have a younger sister whom I have a connection with. However, since I've received my degree last year, I'm beginning to see changes within our conversations that as of late entails the two of us bickering. For example, she can start a conversation about either one of my horrible siblings or something in the news and after I've listened to what she has to say and about to initiate my input, before I can finish my sentence, she is interrupting me and from that point on, I have to "fight" to get my point across. What is so draining and exhausting about this is that once she finally gets out all that she is trying to convey to me within the conversation, the results are what I have stated initially before being interrupted. She just interpret at times with different wording.

I allow her to share with me whatever emotions she is feeling in regard to the subject matter of what we are discussing. My sister (Connie) loves to talk about hurting situations that she is either encountering at the present with various siblings that usually leads to her going down "memory lane" and bringing up past hurting issues that has already been dealt with.

Many times, I dislike this because it brings up a lot of bitter memories that I've encountered with them that I have chose to forget or not think about. Unfortunately, if she continues to dig further with this subject matter, I began display anger in my behavior which results in her chastising me for doing so and she is always making the statement "You will not be a good behavioral analyst because you get angry and you should not have gotten your degree in this field". Well, I take greater offense to this statement due to the fact that I know how to separate professionalism from personal family matters. Just because I may have ill feelings which I feel are well justified when she brings them up, I would not present myself in such a manner when dealing with clients on delicate matters because I know how to separate the two and the two have nothing to do with the other. Once she does this, she lingers at great length with the discussion instead of bringing it to an end when I ask her to change the subject due to my feelings. I can recall for example when my mother was alive and Connie had endured some really bad times with her and no matter what Connie did to keep proving her loyalty to my mother, she was treated worse than before. Well, I was the person in the family that Connie cried to or vented to whenever she went through this. Many times, Connie would say how much she hated my mother for her behavior towards her. The only thing that I ever said was that she should not say that and although she never paid what I said any attention, I would allow her to have her moment nonetheless. Unfortunately, I do not get the same support.

Allow me to explain to you what happened a few hours ago within our conversation today. I have brother-in-law (Larry) who has been treated like the "brother" that I would have liked from them especially since they are my siblings. When I was initially diagnosed with kidney disease, my family did not believe my diagnosis and accused me of lying about my health. I lost my job due to constantly being ill and was advised to apply for disability benefits. During this time was very difficult for me not only emotionally, mentally, and physically, but also financially. However, during this time, my brother-in-law had just came home from the service and everyone in the family primary focus was making sure that he and my older sister were taken care of in every aspect of their lives including financially.

Unfortunately, once he got on his feet, he started to show an ungrateful attitude towards them which resulted in him putting out lies and talking about them behind their backs. One sister in particular was his biggest supporter and once she found out the things he had said about her, I was the one who shoulder looked for to cry on. Now, imagine someone calling you to tell you all that they've done for this person and here you are their blood sibling who is struggling and yet, no one offered to give you any support or assistance. During this conversation, I got so upset and interrupted her by saying "How can you discuss this with me and look for me to be supportive after I've been treated so badly by you?" She replied, "You are treated badly from the family because YOU ARE A F**KING FAGGOT and he is more of a brother than you will ever be"

Of course, I let her have it and afterwards, I've made the decision to distance myself and allow the help of certain friends and doctors until I got back on my feet. Over this past weekend, there was a family gathering and things took a nasty turn of events when Leonard decided to "show his ass" because he had some of his siblings there in attendance. What really bothers me about him is that he got treatment from my family that I had longed for at the time and yet he still gets support from a few of them to this day because he and my sisters' health has taken its toll on the both of them and yet, he is not appreciative of their efforts.

Nonetheless, I am the one whom received a lot of phone calls over the weekend wanting to discuss his behavior. Although, as time progressed over the years, I have risen above the occasion when he and other individuals' names are brought in conversation. What I have a problem dealing with is when my sister keeps talking about the incidents repeatedly and then decides to go down "memory lane" which ignites me to think about times that I do not want to. This happened today, and when I've mentioned that "I hate him" amongst with other choice words. Connie got upset and told me that I should not use the word "hate" as well as the chosen language and then she went on to degrade me for pursuing a career as a behavior analyst for saying that. I felt that if she had respected my wishes to change the subject matter, it would not have gotten to that point of anger.

Although, I was dealing with an angry moment, I do not hate anyone but as I allow her to have her moments, why am I subjected to a harsh lecture for doing so especially about someone whom is only related by marriage and she is constantly calling me talking about in a negative manner? As our voices escalated to a higher level, she kept saying over and over, I should reconsider my career path. I found this to be very insulting and hurtful due to the fact that after I had made several attempts to change the subject, I also blatantly asked her to stop talking about him or any other old, bitter memories because they are not necessary and have not substance in the discussion that we are having. I also dislike the fact that if she is going through a difficult time with a sibling and looks for me for support, however, once she is in a good place with them, she becomes defensive towards me if I say something negative about them which is true. Therefore, my feelings are supposed to change along with hers.

Now, my question to whom ever takes the time to read this, do you feel that I am in the wrong for my reaction as she does?

Thanks as always for your responses...JW:thumbs up:
 
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As much as you told about your reactions to theirs behaviour, I don't see that you have done anything wrong. You seem to be strong person, who can take care of his own bussiness. And taking in consideration your hard family relations, and their behaviour towards you, and after all that you have kept the upper moral ground showing great perseverance towards reasonable behaviour and haven't lowered yourself to their level.

And your sister should also take in consideration your feelings more, which she seems to be doing when she personally is not in distress. Maybe it's just her way to break that tention, talking about the pasts misfortunes as a way to remind herself, that she has endured more? And baliming your career choice, well maybe she's bit jealous that she herself is not so good at human behaviour analysing?;)

And sorry to hear about your financial/health problems, but I think you will come out of it all as a winner. Taking in consideration how well you have dealt with your family, can you really imagine that there is somenthing you couldn't survive trough?:)
 

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As usual, I apologize in advance for any possible misunderstanding for any translation that does not genuinely reflect my thoughts, especially when dealing with such delicate topics.

In my opinion the point is not to determine who is right or not.
Jake said the most important thing, before being an analyst, you're a normal person, with your emotions and the limit of every person. If your sister does not accept this, could help but call.
A question arises: your sister has called your analyst or your brother? If you call the analyst may want to go elsewhere to hear his truth.

You know I follow your story from some time, and I've never hidden the doubts about the real will of your sister, to accept you for who you are. Having said that, and I hope to be wrong, there can never be a spontaneous relationship between brothers and sisters. The confirmation is in this new episode.

This does not mean that you have to break off relations with her, it would be wrong, is not the solution of the problem. But be aware that your sister sees you always in the same way, even though in good faith and striving to want to change.

Maybe I'm too negative, but I piacerbbe with all your heart, who your sister can prove me wrong and accept you without ifs and buts.

As usual I close with the hope that everything will be resolved in the best for you.
 

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Thanks guys for your meaningful and thoughtful responses. I do love my sister but you know what...over the years, although she does give me support, however, there have been times when she feels she "pitted" against whether to embrace our relationship in order to suppress their ridicule for her having a relationship with me. For example, as I've mentioned in a previous posts, my mom and I did not have a great relationship. Out of all her children, she abandon me because of my sexuality. However, if she did swallow her pride to ask for my help, I did without hesitation, without or holding against how I've been treated by her. When my mom passed away a little over a year ago, all of my siblings and relatives that I had nothing to do with or seen in years also had issues with my sexuality were pissed off at me for not attending the service.

Nonetheless, I did help out with whatever my sister needed help with behind the scenes such as; putting together and composing the obituary booklet, etc. However, when my siblings and relative made such a huge deal about my not attending, Connie also took an immediate attitude towards although she was well aware of the relationship issues I had with my mom because of the personal conversations she had overheard that my mom had held with other siblings about me in a negative way. Initially, I was bitter, angry and hurt with her abandonment of me. However, as time went on and with therapy, I've learned to accept the fact and respect her issues by keeping my distance and forming my own path without her or any of them and I did while still having respect for her being the woman whom brought me into the world.

When Connie approached me with an attitude after the funeral and started informing me of the nasty remarks that were made by them, I was hurt that she took out the time to repeat what was being said. In fact, what changed her attitude towards me was when I mentioned some of the behavior that I've endured from my mom and how I did not hold any bitterness afterwards for it and therefore, why would I put myself in a very uncomfortable situation just because they felt it was the right thing to do especially when I do not have a relationship with none of them. A few days later, Connie called me to tell me that once I broke it down to her, she understood why I did not attend the funeral. I was still disappointed and upset with her because my loyalty to her is so much stronger than what she has for me. I never let anyone approach me with negative talk about her without me correcting them or shutting it down altogether. However, she did not do the same for me.

This brother-in-law has been nothing but a gossiper and trouble since he got on his feet. My mom had also supported him and did things for him while she left me abandon and yet, he talked negatively about her behind her back as well. So, over the years, whenever he did or said something that backlashed them, I am the one that they contact to vent about him too. Although, I allow my sister to speak with me and vent about family members that have caused me a great deal of pain over the years, however, it is only so far I believe those conversations should go out of respect for me and my position with the family. And for her to get mad and lashed out on me for making a derogatory statement about someone whom she had been speaking about negatively for quite some time and who is only related to the family by marriage, did not comprehend with me. Honestly, I am still pissed at all that she said to me because I felt none of it was necessary especially since prior to her remarks, she was sharing with me horrible and hurtful stories about how he not only treated her but other family members over the years whom had been there for him.

Now, considering all that I've shared with you all in regards to how my family treated me, what made her think that I would not have bad feelings or animosity towards what she was sharing especially when I had mentioned several times to change the subject.
 

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As much as you told about your reactions to theirs behaviour, I don't see that you have done anything wrong. You seem to be strong person, who can take care of his own bussiness. And taking in consideration your hard family relations, and their behaviour towards you, and after all that you have kept the upper moral ground showing great perseverance towards reasonable behaviour and haven't lowered yourself to their level.

And your sister should also take in consideration your feelings more, which she seems to be doing when she personally is not in distress. Maybe it's just her way to break that tention, talking about the pasts misfortunes as a way to remind herself, that she has endured more? And baliming your career choice, well maybe she's bit jealous that she herself is not so good at human behaviour analysing?;)

And sorry to hear about your financial/health problems, but I think you will come out of it all as a winner. Taking in consideration how well you have dealt with your family, can you really imagine that there is somenthing you couldn't survive trough?:)

Thanks Otage for your thoughtful response.

I would like to add that although I do have health issues, there is no way anyone knows this unless I tell them and yet, they are still in disbelief because as I've mentioned before, I keep my outer appearance and the outer physical in good form despite what is going on in the inside. And regard of financial issues, I am doing a lot better than what had been expected especially from family members because I do not want for anything out of the norm and is not lacking anything that I can't get for myself without any help or assistance from anyone. And that is something that I pride myself for and pat myself on the back (shaking the dirt and hate off my shoulders now..lol)
 

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Thanks Otage for your thoughtful response.

I would like to add that although I do have health issues, there is no way anyone knows this unless I tell them and yet, they are still in disbelief because as I've mentioned before, I keep my outer appearance and the outer physical in good form despite what is going on in the inside. And regard of financial issues, I am doing a lot better than what had been expected especially from family members because I do not want for anything out of the norm and is not lacking anything that I can't get for myself without any help or assistance from anyone. And that is something that I pride myself for and pat myself on the back (shaking the dirt and hate off my shoulders now..lol)

I myself have a bit distressed relationship to my parents too(and to most of my relatives) and as you said before - and I totally agree with you - that we both can find solice from the idea of us being independent and keeping the moral upper hand. And I do not hate my parents, I find it bioligally quite hard to do, and hate very easily turns inwards and comes very consuming. I just keep my cool, and towards their crude behaviour I'm totally numb(years of experience;)). Just focusing on my life. There's enough work for everyone I think:)
 

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It is sad to see that the people who should love you and support always, unconditionally, are the ones that hurt us the most.
 
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