Issue 1: Fed Up With Tattoos But Double Standards?

[package15]

Hello all

I'd :big hug::heart: to hear you views on this.

I am getting sick and tired of porn where the body art detractes from the scene. The problem is, if I say that it's oh you only want 'white privilaged males AKA Sean Cody types" :no: and that is not true.

However, some of my favourate porn stars they now look awful. Examples, Jessy Ares, Jimmy Clay and Hunter Marx, their bodies ruined. Some, I won't name out of courtesy, they look like they have skin diseases. I just don't like it.

However, here's the rub to quote Hamlet:

I like them on Spencer Reed (yes I know he does not make porn now), Johnny Hazzard and especially Colby Jansen. Landon Conrad and Connor Maguire, I know they are winding down their porn, only have tiny tatts. The thing is they don't distract.

So I feel double standards but I just feel the body art is over the top. It just does not turn me on, and I find 90% now of any type of porn, including straight porn, has this awful body art.

I guess the ones that make the porn just think we all want to see body art, and that is fine, but really it is over the top, but also I don't want to go back to a total non-body art porn world, just ease up on the horrible designs.

 

[wardell]

I know how you feel. there are some great looking guys out there with sexy bodes but they are ruined by to much ink. now don't get me wrong I do think tats are super sexy when do right and not over done here is a good example of bad tats he would have a sexy body if not for all the bad ink


here is a good example of good ink this guy has tats but they do not distract form his natural beauty plus I think he looks more sexy with it just as long as he does not get any more

 

[Otage]

I have never liked tattoos at all. If person in real life has some, it doesn't affect that much on me, but in porn I personally find it bit of a turn off. Most of the tats are bit of a fashion thing, and with clothes in fashion, they are easy to disregard, but tats... And they often look bit trashy.

But I like my brothers tattoo: he has his daughters name and date of birth with beautifull font in his hand. It's very subtle and tastefully done, it doesn't show much and the meaning of it will not fade away. Well, still, skin has bad long term qualities as canvas.

 

[Shelter]

Hello all

I'd :big hug::heart: to hear you views on this.

I am getting sick and tired of porn where the body art detractes from the scene. The problem is, if I say that it's oh you only want 'white privilaged males AKA Sean Cody types" :no: and that is not true.

However, some of my favourate porn stars they now look awful. Examples, Jessy Ares, Jimmy Clay and Hunter Marx, their bodies ruined. Some, I won't name out of courtesy, they look like they have skin diseases. I just don't like it.

However, here's the rub to quote Hamlet:

I like them on Spencer Reed (yes I know he does not make porn now), Johnny Hazzard and especially Colby Jansen. Landon Conrad and Connor Maguire, I know they are winding down their porn, only have tiny tatts. The thing is they don't distract.

So I feel double standards but I just feel the body art is over the top. It just does not turn me on, and I find 90% now of any type of porn, including straight porn, has this awful body art.

I guess the ones that make the porn just think we all want to see body art, and that is fine, but really it is over the top, but also I don't want to go back to a total non-body art porn world, just ease up on the horrible designs.

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:
You have spoken deep out of my soul! :thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up:

 

[brmstn69]

What I can't stand are the massive chest pieces. They have the effect of flattening the chest and removing all muscle definition. What's the point in doing all that exercise if the results are forever hidden under all that ink?



Tattoos should accent the body, draw attention to the muscle definition, accentuate the lines of the body.

Notice how the lettering running down his side draws your eye to his abs and really make them seem to "pop" out at you compared to this pic without the tattoo ...

 

[mattla]

Too many tattoos is a turn off, I would like to see as much of the natural body as I can especially if they are in good shape. Sometimes tattoos can be a distraction if they just don't look right - there was a twink that had a tattoo on his forearm that had a lot of red to it. Close up it looked ok but at any distance it looked like he had a rash of some sort. In general it only bothers me (not a huge deal) if the tattoo is on the hands or on the neck and above - something about tattoos in those areas can make a person look trashy.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

If you don't like tattoos, or "body art" as some prefer to call it, then you don't like it and you shouldn't feel the need to apologise for it. No double standard at all. I don't like them either, and moreover I think it's rather stupid to decorate your body in a manner that can't be removed when you get bored with it or it goes out of fashion. I never yet saw a hunky guy with tattoos where I did not think he would look even better without them.

Part of my dislike is the cultural association; they are popular among biker groups, sailors, small-time criminals, etc. In other words it seems to be a means for trying to get acceptance in their clique. When I see a guy with tattoos, my instinctive reaction is that this is someone who is very concerned with belonging to some tribe or other, rather than daring to be their own man.

 

[RazzmaTazz]

Like you, I think that some body art is OK. It looks good on some people, but not so good on others. And some guys have really gone over the top on their art. But I think that the issue here is that you are trying to make what they do to their bodies for you, when they really just have to do it for themselves.

I don't have any tats because once I were to get one I would have to live with it for the rest of my life, and I don't like the idea of maybe changing my opinion about the tat that I got 10 or 20 years down the road.

I just try to remember that the guys in porn who get tats are getting them because THEY want to, and THEY like how the tats look on their body, hopefully. The models are in the industry to entertain us, but ultimately they are doing what they do for themselves. It's like when I was out hustling, I wasn't out there for the satisfaction of the guys I was working with, I was out there for my satisfaction.

I think that whether a person is in porn, or regular TV and movies, we try to think that what they do is for us, when it is really for them. We will always have our opinions, as long as we don't try to change a person into who WE want them to be.

 

[pointguy36]

Like you, I think that some body art is OK. It looks good on some people, but not so good on others. And some guys have really gone over the top on their art. But I think that the issue here is that you are trying to make what they do to their bodies for you, when they really just have to do it for themselves.

I don't have any tats because once I were to get one I would have to live with it for the rest of my life, and I don't like the idea of maybe changing my opinion about the tat that I got 10 or 20 years down the road.

I just try to remember that the guys in porn who get tats are getting them because THEY want to, and THEY like how the tats look on their body, hopefully. The models are in the industry to entertain us, but ultimately they are doing what they do for themselves. It's like when I was out hustling, I wasn't out there for the satisfaction of the guys I was working with, I was out there for my satisfaction.

I think that whether a person is in porn, or regular TV and movies, we try to think that what they do is for us, when it is really for them. We will always have our opinions, as long as we don't try to change a person into who WE want them to be.

A very insightful response...I really struggle with this issue as I think most guys look better without a lot of ink. I run and lift and so have an appreciation for all the time and effort most models put into their bodies. My initial response is always "what were they thinking?" - it is good to be reminded that their choices are in fact THEIR choices and not mine!

 

[dragonscub]

- it is good to be reminded that their choices are in fact THEIR choices and not mine!

This is a fine, humanistic, high-road statement that ordinarily I would agree with BUT: seriously, dude, you're giving these guys way too much credit.

This is mindless mass-culture herd behaviour: nothing more, nothing less. If it was an individual, carefully-considered choice they would not all have the exact same boring goddamned cookie-cutter tats in all the same places (pectoral plates, Asian runes up the side of the abdomen, full-sleeve arms with ink so dense you can't make out what the fuck the design is even with a flashlight and magnifying glass).

The tide of ink is one of the most obvious examples of mass hypnosis gone off the rails: topsy-turvy magical thinking at its worst. Somehow, the past two generations of men (and women-ugh) have deluded themselves that getting covered in a cacaphony of tats is an expression of their rebel individuality, when in fact it is the exact opposite: they all look like reflections of each other, with the tats masking much of their own individual physical grace and beauty.

Nowhere is it more ludicrous than in gay porn. Over the past decade, I've learned to mentally tune out the tats, because their ubiquity in porn would otherwise be a complete boner killer. But occasionally, I can't tune them out, and what could have been a hot video becomes a comedy clip. This happened last night, while viewing my favorite type of porn: 30s-40s hot Daddy type with 20ish younger dude. It began well, but then the younger dude began flouncing around and jabbering like he was on Pride Parade bar float. I love extravagant queens (they comprise 90% of my friends), but if they're in my porn, they need to be honestly who they are and not try to pull a faux-butch-str8 act.

Thats what was going down in this video: the bottom could not have been more of a stereotype muscle-queen if he tried, yet he was covered in ridiculous mis-matched tats that were trying WAY too hard to signal "I pass for straight" (flaming skulls and other shit that even the goons on Sons Of Anarchy would eschew as overkill). Once I became aware of the contrast, all I could do was giggle like a hyena at the absurdity of it. Mary, puh-leeze: if you walk like RuPaul and talk like Truman Capote, skip the skull and snake and dagger tats. They don't make you look butch or ironic or gender-queer: you just look like a self-loathing fool.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

I'm pleasantly surprised to discover that most posts in this thread seem to share my negative opinion of tattoos. So maybe I need to put in a word for the other side and say it's a guy's (or girl's) body for them to do what they like... BUT with the caveat that I'm not convinced the decision is always a properly considered one, there is often too much social pressure, and it should be a a jailing offence to tattoo anyone who is under-age, intoxicated, under the influence of other drugs, or who for any other reason is not in a position to give informed consent.

The other thing is, yes it's the other person's body and supposedly they do the art for themselves, not for me. But in that case I shouldn't be expected to like it. People showing off their "art" seem to expect everyone to say "Oh wow", and if you don't then you're considered some kind of conservative fascist.

 

[Otage]

Ofc people have different opinnions, and it's their body. I think we are talking about what everybodies personal opinnion is about them. I wouldn't myself take a tattoo or don't find them good looking, but it's not like Im hating people who have/like them or are trying to make people stop taking them.

 

[b4pxku4u]

In this very interesting discussion, we have of course forgotten the effect of alcohol on the decision to get a tattoo, its design and position. Like the email we sent the night before, perhaps some things are regretted in the cold light of day.

 

[brmstn69]

In this very interesting discussion, we have of course forgotten the effect of alcohol on the decision to get a tattoo, its design and position. Like the email we sent the night before, perhaps some things are regretted in the cold light of day.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but in the US it is illegal to tattoo someone who is intoxicated. And as litigious as we are, no artist is risking his livelihood inking a drunk...

 

[Otage]

I don't know about the rest of the world, but in the US it is illegal to tattoo someone who is intoxicated. And as litigious as we are, no artist is risking his livelihood inking a drunk...

Same here. But do they test it anyway? Person can be under inluence of drug of some kind without it being obvious. I mean I've heard people have taken tattoo when drunk in here, so maybe some artists don't care or the people don't seem to be that toxicated.

Most brolly agree, that tattoo shouldn't be taken without thorough thinking. I mean wouldn't advice to take tattoo if depressed or smth like that.

 

[brmstn69]

When I got tattooed, I first went in and made all the arrangements, then while he set up I went outside and smoked a fat joint. But I was sober when I told him what I wanted, that's what mattered....

 

[package15]

Thank you all fantastic to read your responses although I have been a little late.

I tend to agree with dragoncub.

I can mentally tune out the tattoos but sometimes they are still hot.

BTW on a sub note I typed that Colby Jansen is winding down his career. As I write that is not the case. I don't know what he is like in real life, but he is just so nice the tattoos are not too much of a distraction.

Thank you all.