its not easy being gay....

[BugsyB]

I live in america....and its not easy to be gay but im free to be gay..but i dont show it i want too, but dont...i want to hug everyone lol

i dont know what its like in your country..are you free to be gay?

 

[Bo.]

Well, you're right, it's not easy being gay...
In my country even the Constitution doesn't protect the basic rights of the homosexuals.

 

[Mamah]

Well, you're right, it's not easy being gay...
In my country even the Constitution doesn't protect the basic rights of the homosexuals.

Yes, and that's true of many countries, although very slowly things are changing for the better in some countries. That will also help explain why some forum members are understandably afraid to post here. Probably some won't even keep their downloads on their computer for very long due to fear of the law.
India has only just de-criminalised male-to-male sexual relationships. But Pakistan, Bangladesh & Sri Lanka haven't, although in my experience it is generally accepted by ordinary people in those countries so long as one is discrete about it.
Another positive characteristic about many Asian countries is that it is perfectly normal for males to walk about holding hands (although that varies from region to region). Sometimes in south Asia you can even see policemen or soldiers holding hands! Can you imagine that in "liberated" Western countries? :heart:

 

[Ecclesies]

I agree with some of the above statement. As part of a group that strives for lawful equivalency, we must also fight for rights that are not necessarily of benefit to us, but to "we the people" of our respective nations, AND of the world. The war on terror? it's about the bottom line, had there been no potential for some kind of revenue, "big brother" and "uncle Sam" wouldn't have been there long. However they still may have taken a similar action, as they have in the past during he pearl harbor incident. "How dare you attack America, land of the free" (a priveledge reserved for a select group among the public at large)

It's not easy, but it's not bad either. The fact that it's not easy means that whoever survives will be strong indivuals indeed. Perhaps to create a new world order? (joke)

 

[BugsyB]

all are good points and im happy that you have taken time to respond..lol

but.....

 

[Ecclesies]

Indeed, so I say make the most of it, accept what you must, challenge what you mustn't. Live free, die hard

 

[BugsyB]

arumbob you are always starting these threads that get us all hot and bothered over God, rights, philosophy, politics, poo... etc. etc.

is that ok?

its just life for us all and i love to hear what everyone has to say

especially you babe you have such a wonderful mind...would love to meet you and have a pint:cheers:

 

[Ecclesies]

I enjoy these challenges. Terrible things happen to those who stop questioning.

 

[ritsuka]

No, it isn't easy to be gay, here in the US--the culture is extremely hetero centric and homophobic, and has been my whole life. People expect you to be straight, from birth, and saturate you in heterosexual expectations, images, and archetypes. We are not free to be gay, really, as the laws are uneven; teenagers can be kicked out of their homes or sent to seminaries for being a homosexual and nothing happens (this is also because the sick culture we live in discards people freely, allows them to starve and die on the streets, makes them dependant on parents to pay for college, etc) --many other forms of crime, discrimination, and exclusion are overlooked and tolerated (even if the books say they are illegal), from schools to the adult world, because the police, courts, and general community is often on the side of homophobia themselves, stoked on by the christian right who goes around the world stoking anti-gay laws like the one in Uganda, and harassing our place in this country. The GLBT equality movement has a long way to go, both culturally and politically, to reach anything akin to equality; it is a national and a global struggle, but one with real consequences for how people are allowed to live their lives.

Further, the east is full of soldiers in riot uniform harassing civilians; see Indonesia, India, China... Some in the west have truly progressed a great deal, just not the US or UK. Males holding hands is a fairly meaningless cultural fluke when the society is still extremely sexually repressive, and when you can be thrown in jail for holding hands with a girl.

 

[Bo.]

Another positive characteristic about many Asian countries is that it is perfectly normal for males to walk about holding hands (although that varies from region to region). Sometimes in south Asia you can even see policemen or soldiers holding hands! Can you imagine that in "liberated" Western countries? :heart:

Interesting! I didn't know about that
I don't think it will happen to see policemen or soldiers holding hands over here in the next 100 years and more.

 

[jw4833]

You're right it is not easy being gay...I have to say although, I live in a community that has been pretty diverse and has for years catered to the gay population. As of late, a lot of people from the eastern region of the city has migrated over to these sides and have caused a lot of gay couples to be uncomfortable holding hands as they walk down the street.

 

[CUBBYJR1]

yes agree it not easy

 

[jer468]

I am very fortunate in that (a) I live in Canada and (b) I work in a field where being gay is totally accepted and open.

The big difference I find between Canada and the US (I live right on the border) is that the Canadian government (because of the Constitution) does not tolerate religious interference. I am always surprised at how powerful the religious right is in the US -- to the point where the meddling with the teaching of family planning has resulted in the US having the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in the western world. A shocking statistic.

Canada is much more western European in its position on sexuality. The current (right wing) government thought that it might re-open the debate on same sex marriage and got a very quick and loud message from the population that same sex marriage was just fine and should be left alone. Oddly that moment was even greater than the moment when same sex marriage was legalized in the first place. We're not a particularly interesting people, but we do believe that people should live and let live.

 

[alexfot55]

Of course its not easy being gay anyplace anytime.Even in total libery it is not easy to be anything.It involves personal and objective criteria and responsible actions. Way too difficult.