Ketchup versus catsup

[intensepump]

Which word do you prefer?

This is a poll with scientific ramifications....I will explain after getting some results.

 

[brmstn69]

Which word do you prefer?

This is a poll with scientific ramifications....I will explain after getting some results.

Well, then shouldn't you make this an actual poll...

I like Ketchup, it's more German...

 

[intensepump]

part of the scientific evaluation is getting open ended responses....:thinking:

like yours...."More German"...very interesting indeed...:thinking:

 

[XMan101]

Never heard it called catsup. I've only ever known ketchup as ketchup!

 

[slimjim]

My vote goes to Ketchup

 

[brmstn69]

part of the scientific evaluation is getting open ended responses....:thinking:

like yours...."More German"...very interesting indeed...:thinking:

I live in a mostly "of German decent" community, thus the Germanic spelling is most common here, besides when you spell it "catsup" (which BTW, even my spell check says is wrong) it makes me think of "cat soup"

 

[tylerstory]

ketchup. but it has to be heinz.

 

[Thor]

catchup? WTF is that? hahaha ohhhhh i see pump, your thinging cat barf!! hahaha

 

[hammervice]

Never heard it called catsup. I've only ever known ketchup as ketchup!

Yuppers what more can i add

 

[prinz4ming]

Ditto Xman and hammervice... Never heard of catsup...

 

[garth33]

Ketchup all the way. I find the name catsup actually makes it less appealing although it's exactly the same product. You could put the same ketchup on 2 plates - label 1 catsup and I would swear it didn't taste as good as ketchup. Weird eh?

peace,
g33

 

[intensepump]

Interesting...:thinking:

 

[tylerstory]

Ketchup all the way. I find the name catsup actually makes it less appealing although it's exactly the same product. You could put the same ketchup on 2 plates - label 1 catsup and I would swear it didn't taste as good as ketchup. Weird eh?

i agree with you 100%. but brand makes a difference too. theres different tastes depending on brands and area of the country even. im picky about my ketchup.

 

[garth33]

(An Alan Alda YEESSSSS!!!!) Heinz RULES!!! (and Hunt's BLOWWWSSS!!! I know it - you know it - the AMERICAN PEOPLE know it! (sorry DOLE:x - you mummy!)

 

[garth33]

ps - forgot to say "PEACE" which is my sig...oh man I'm wasted tonight!~

PEACE BUDDIES!:thumbs up:

(I'd deal with China later...)

 

[ritorno]

Don't know about Germanic, but here in Britain I don't know anyone who calls it anything other than ketchup. Or tomato sauce - that really confuses people in an American burger bar

 

[brmstn69]

Don't know about Germanic, but here in Britain I don't know anyone who calls it anything other than ketchup. Or tomato sauce - that really confuses people in an American burger bar

That's funny, because Johnathon Swift was the first to call it "catsup"...


From world wide words...


Ketchup was one of the earliest names given to this condiment, so spelled in Charles Lockyer’s book of 1711, An Account of the Trade in India: “Soy comes in Tubbs from Jappan, and the best Ketchup from Tonquin; yet good of both sorts are made and sold very cheap in China”. Nobody seems quite sure where it comes from, and I won’t bore you with a long disquisition concerning the scholarly debate on the matter, which is reflected in the varied origins given in major dictionaries. It’s likely to be from a Chinese dialect, imported into English through Malay. The original was a kind of fish sauce, though the modern Malay and Indonesian version, with the closely related name kecap, is a sweet soy sauce.

Like their Eastern forerunners, Western ketchups were dipping sauces. I’m told the first ketchup recipe appeared in Elizabeth Smith’s book The Compleat Housewife of 1727 and that it included anchovies, shallots, vinegar, white wine, sweet spices (cloves, ginger, mace, nutmeg), pepper and lemon peel. Not a tomato in sight, you will note — tomato ketchup was not introduced until about a century later, in the US, and caught on only slowly. It was more usual to base the condiment on mushrooms, or sometimes walnuts.

The confusion about names started even before Charles Lockyer wrote about it, since there is an entry dated 1690 in the Dictionary of the Canting Crew which gives it as catchup, which is another Anglicisation of the original Eastern term. Catchup was used much more in North America than in Britain: it was still common in the middle years of the nineteenth century, as in a story in Scribner’s Magazine in 1859: “I do not object to take a few slices of cold boiled ham ... with a little mushroom catchup, some Worcester sauce, and a pickle or so”. Indeed, catchup continued to appear in American works for some decades and is still to be found on occasion.

There were lots of other spellings, too, of which catsup is the best known, a modification of catchup. You can blame Jonathan Swift for it if you like, since he used it first in 1730: “And, for our home-bred British cheer, Botargo, catsup, and caveer”. [Caveer is caviar; botargo is a fish-based relish made of the roe of the mullet or tunny.] That form was also once common in the US but is much less so these days, at least on bottle labels: all the big US manufacturers now call their product ketchup.

 

[zoids]

Tomato sauce please !

 

[ritorno]

Wow - A scholar!

I am humbled by your erudite reply. Thanks.

 

[goejavin]

When I lived in California, Del Monte was the most popular condiment, canned vegetable manufacturer there at the time. Up until the late '80's they called their ketshup, catsup, in hopes that it would catch on and become the "catsup" leader. I can recall seeing it on the shelf and literally not buying it cause the name just didn't look right. Plus some people would pronounce it just as it looks, which drove me crazy, since that was not Del Monte's intent. Get a grip, people!!! In any case, I think enough people thought like me and at some point in the late 80's, Del Monte changed back to Ketchup...and the world was one again...