New Apple!!

[Irishman25]

Just watched the new apple stuff coming..
The new iOS and the new OsX I love some of the new features coming, one or 2 I really wanted even

But OMG the new MacBook pro oh if only i had the cash!!!!!

And yes I'm on my ipad2 typing this lol lol

 

[Casanova]

Personally, I was not impressed with the new iOS. There was nithing innovative or astounding, was quite disappoiting tbh. Everything which they proclaimed to be new was a feature already available if you were running a jailbroken device or running Android.

That said, I am replying to this on my ipad 2 so lololol xD

 

[Irishman25]

And if ur not on android or a jail broken phone?????
New features yay!! Lol lol

 

[slimjim]

;P ;P ;P ) ) ;P ;P ;P

 

[Irishman25]

I can guarntee each and every one of them prob does have an ipad or an apple product lol

 

[slimjim]

Yeah... and the latest apple products

A 2 wheeled personal transport device - the iCycle

A small 4 wheeled russian goods carrier - the iVan

A desert storage facility, possibly for WMD - the iRak

An arctic accommodation unit - the iGlu

 

[gb2000ie]

I'm always shocked that people want a miracle every year.

The new iOS has lots of nice evolutionary features. When you've reached the stage where all the glaring omissions have been dealt with, what you get is continued refinement rather than innovation.

This year, it's OS X that's getting the biggest evolution, but, I think that's where the refinement was most needed.

Really, the big story is the tighter integration of the two OSes, people who use both OSes are getting ever closer to the world of Star Trek, where your data is just magically with you where ever you go, and you can interact with it and edit it from any device.

The new MacBook is nothing short of drool-inducing. The best thing about it is that this shows us where Apple are going. Remember, the Air came in at a very high price point, now it's sitting at $999 - in a year or two, we'll get ultra thin ultra fast retina display MacBook Pros at the price of the current regular macbook pros.

B.

 

[Casanova]

I never said I expected miracles.. It's the way they advertise everything as being genius and inventive.

And this is coming from someone who ensured he got his hands on an iPhone the minute it was available here, plus I have so many gen ipods, and macbooks, I can set up a shop right now. So I am just as guilty as every other Apple fanboy out there.

Just practically speaking, the last year and a half, I have stopped with all the drooling over new updates as realistically, what they are releasing are practically out of date, with newer inventions and additions being applied outside their circle, and possibly within their circle, but due to marketing strategies, they linger with these updates and make them seem as something "magical"

I'll say this though, the retina display for the new MacBook Pro is really nice as this means a rich display even compared to some of the best HDTVs, but still, when I compare it to the price I paid for my current 18.4" laptop which I bought 3 weeks ago, with the specs for the upcoming macbook pro.. My current laptop is running more than those specs listed and I still paid less than €1500 for it. Compared to Apples €2,349.00 for 15"

Anyway, just my opinion.

 

[Casanova]

I can guarntee each and every one of them prob does have an ipad or an apple product lol

Remember I told ya my best mate got a job with them in Cork? He doesn't even own an Apple product..

So I told him welllllll.. if ya ain't getting anything from them at least help a buddy out with his staff discount.. I never got a reply... cheeky bugger...

Anyway.. I digressed

 

[josh_the_hot_boy]

DON'T GET ME STARTED. First I don't expect a miracle every year just for them to revolutionize the industry every 5 years or so. They did it with the Ipod and then the Iphone and now??? Whats next? Anyways they got rid of the 17" MacBook Pro. What were they thinking. They already got rid of the MacBook. They've only done minor adjustments to the Mac Pros. Pretty soon the MacBook Pro will be just as thin as the MacBook Air making it obsolete. Their reducing their product line to nothing. Mac Os X 10.7 was a misfire. Anyways Just me rambling on.

 

[Irishman25]

You are all forgetting something important especially with the new iOS

The new iphone is coming in sept/oct, with the release of the new iOS and like last year with the release of iphone 4s they kept siri for that release.
We havent seen the last of what is new with iOS6 until the new phone is released

as for new invotations every 5 years... again we havent seen the new iphone
liquid metal, new touch sensitive display, nfc are only just a FEW of the roumours for the new iphone

AND theres a new tv coming this year by the looks of it or very much a new product, especially with the cryptic clue at the last keynote in january

i think the biggest grumble here by people is its the summer, half way through the year and apple wont tell u anything lol
u all want to hear about it now now and u all want what the others have aka android features on ur phones lol

personally i love the few shows apple put on through the year and they put a good show on showing off their products
its where i can sit back, slap it on my tv and watch a movie

as for android and samsung and alikes i gota go on the net and listen to god knows who about it, bah thats sooooooooooooooo 1990's lol
im far too lazy now, just put it in a nice presentation, and let me enjoy lol

oh and last thing
they hipe up the new features and play down the bad points.... WELL YEA!!!
its a presentation from a company, its a marketing event.... its not a discussion, a case where they show up the good and the bad lol
its where they are trying to sell the stuff, i dont recall watching an avert on tv for the latest samsung s3 where they show off the bad points or what they left out of it....
its apple THE BIGGEST company in the WORLD and u complain that they behave like oh i dunno a COMPANY lol lol

srry im rambeling now lol
i know i like apple because they do the marketing so well and i know its marketing i regonise it, if google or samsung or someone done it as well i would congratulate them on it and start a samsung thread and drool over those things

BY the BY i swear by samsung tv's, they are stunning and its all i own, 3d is amazing! lol
i also have used and felt the s3 and omg its preety and stunning and yes im a huge samsung fan too lol

 

[parucci]

am i the only one who doesn't give a damn? no hate. :9

 

[slimjim]

am i the only one who doesn't give a damn? no hate. :9

I think that my earlier posts tell you what I think

 

[gb2000ie]

A new innovation every 5 years eh? Well, since the iPad is less than 3 years old, they still have plenty of time to meet that deadline

Also, I think iCloud IS the next innovation, but it's a slow starter. It's not a big flashy start, but, I think that looking back in 10 years, we'll realise that Steve Jobs' last keynote, which introduced iCloud, as just as important as the ones where he introduced us all to the Macintosh, the iMac, the iPod, the iPhone, and the iPad.

As for the new laptops being "expensive", look what they are offering for the money! You are getting screaming fast CPUs, screaming fast SSDs, plenty of RAM, a great graphics card, a stunning display, 7 hours of battery life, and all in an astonishingly thin and light case. Somehow, when it comes to cars we can all see past statistics, yet when it comes to computers, we all seem to think it's the numbers are are paying for, and not the design and engineering. And, again, remember how expensive the first Air was, yet just a few years later, it was selling for $999. There is no doubt about it, you pay a premium for being on the bleeding edge.

When you take Apple's offerings as a whole, as an entire ecosystem, nothing competes. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 (or what ever they'll call it) don't integrate nearly as well as OS X and iOS will when we get our hands on both the new OSes announced yesterday. When you look at demos of Windows RT/8, you really don't get the impression you are seeing something from the same decade as what Apple are up to.

We spend all our time in an OS, so it's effect on us gets magnified. Each small niggle is like a paper cut, one we hit over and over and over again many times a day, making even the smallest quibble into a big deal. Thankfully, each small improvement gets magnified equally as much. Reading through the full spec list for Mountain Lion, I see a lot of great little tweaks that will make my day a little brighter each and every day.

Give the new OSes a chance, you can't really do an OS justice in a keynote presentation.

B.

 

[topdog]

...Also, I think iCloud IS the next innovation, but it's a slow starter...

When you take Apple's offerings as a whole, as an entire ecosystem, nothing competes. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 (or what ever they'll call it) don't integrate nearly as well as OS X and iOS will when we get our hands on both the new OSes announced yesterday. When you look at demos of Windows RT/8, you really don't get the impression you are seeing something from the same decade as what Apple are up to...
B.

The new MacBooks are very sexy, and they are introducing some great refinements.

But in the innovation department, I have to disagree with you. Everything new in IOS 6 is either an evolution or a catch-up to something Android and / or Windows Phone already has. I'm not knocking Apple - that's exactly what they needed to do.

But when in comes to integration and innovation, Windows 8 is at another level completely. In Windows 8 there is no OSX / IOS split between laptops and tablets; the use the exact same system. And next week you'll see the path that Windows Phone will be taking as it moves away from being a separate platform.

What this means for developer is that you can write a Metro app that will run on a Windows desktop, laptop, tablet, or phone. This is a radical change from what has come before - so I have to give this round to Microsoft just for having the balls to leave the desktop and focus everything on the mobile experience.

And don't get me started on iCloud. Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and DropBox were already there years ago. All my pictures I take on my Windows phone automatically go up to SkyDrive. I don't have to carry any music on my phone - with my subscription to Zune I can hear anything I want, any time I want to hear it.

So, Bravo for Apple bringing in these features and making their great products even better. But this year the innovations are coming from Redmond instead of Cuppertino.

 

[Cute Prince101]

Give the new OSes a chance, you can't really do an OS justice in a keynote presentation.

B.

Today i took a risk & purchased to registered my UDID for my Ipad 2 Wifi model @ http://nullrefer.com/?http://www.ios6beta.com/index.html for only $10 instead of getting my own developers account from Apple for $99 so that i can give a test run on this new firmware and within an 1hr or 2 after purchasing it through PayPal i received an email from the owner of the site above telling me that my UDID for my device is registered so then i backup up everything on my Ipad 2 on ICloud and then i headed to this page on the site above http://nullrefer.com/?http://www.ios6beta.com/downloads/index.html to download the IOS 6 beta version for the device i registered and after that i made sure to update ITunes to the latest version which is 10.6.3 on my Macbook Pro, cause that version of ITunes is compatible with iOS 6 beta and after i did that then i made sure to do 1 more backup of my device and on Itunes i Clicked on key Option on my Macbook keyboard on Mac OSX while clicking the "Restore" button so that i can find the firmware that i just downloaded from the site above and then the installation process started and after it completed, a big Hello signed popped up on my screen but i didn't click anything on the device then Itunes came up with the options > Restore from a backup or Start a New device < so i choose Restore from a backup so that i can keep all my settings and bookmarks and stuff and then my device restarted after Restore from a Backup and that's it my device was Restored from a Backup with iOS 6 Beta

Here is a few screenshoots of the Settings App & the New Clock App, Itunes & App Store apps taken from my Ipad 2 WiFi using iOS 6



I hope you all like them & So far i haven't come across any bugs yet and the firmware also seems pretty fast as well, the Itunes Store & App Store apps are still separate since it's beta, but it will change to IStore App in the next few beta firmwares i think and the layout design is completely different which is shown in pictures above, as well & There is Apple's New Maps App but it's not functional yet since it's only the first beta firmware but I'll update the pictures once Apple makes it functional in the next few iOS 6 beta firmwares i promise. :big hug: & If you want to try this out remember to purchase and register your UDID on the website above before you use iOS 6 beta and to follow the Guides on the website as well.

 

[gb2000ie]

The new MacBooks are very sexy, and they are introducing some great refinements.

But in the innovation department, I have to disagree with you. Everything new in IOS 6 is either an evolution or a catch-up to something Android and / or Windows Phone already has. I'm not knocking Apple - that's exactly what they needed to do.

But when in comes to integration and innovation, Windows 8 is at another level completely. In Windows 8 there is no OSX / IOS split between laptops and tablets; the use the exact same system. And next week you'll see the path that Windows Phone will be taking as it moves away from being a separate platform.

For now, Microsoft have nothing to integrate their phones with their computers even half as well as Apple are integrating their platform.

Apple have got it right IMO, what needs to be integrated is your data, not your user interface. A finger is not a mouse, and a desktop is not a tablet. It makes no sense to try force those together in a shot-gun wedding.

Although iOS and OS are still separate OSes (as I think they should remain for the reasons above), they are doing a great job of unifying the user experience and concepts across both. Knowledge from one of Apple's OSes will carry over to the other, that's free knowledge, and it really helps drive the halo effect around the iPad. The PC market is not growing, but Apple's computer business is beating the market trends and continuing to grow at a solid rate.

What this means for developer is that you can write a Metro app that will run on a Windows desktop, laptop, tablet, or phone. This is a radical change from what has come before - so I have to give this round to Microsoft just for having the balls to leave the desktop and focus everything on the mobile experience.

Apple have the same dev environment and language for developing apps for all their OSes, so although OS X and iOS look different on the surface, they are actually very similar under the hood, and you can bring most of your code with you from one platform to the other. What you need to do is re-skin it so the interface works well both with your fingers and with a keyboard and mouse.

And don't get me started on iCloud. Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and DropBox were already there years ago. All my pictures I take on my Windows phone automatically go up to SkyDrive. I don't have to carry any music on my phone - with my subscription to Zune I can hear anything I want, any time I want to hear it.

Those other services are at a very different "there" than where iCloud will be in a few weeks. I've been using these services for years, and they are clunky at best. DropBox is just a dumb file syncer, so me, the user, has to remember not to keep two copies of an app open at the same time if I have moved it's library folder to my drop box. Some apps have been specially re-written to take into account that another copy of itself could stomp on the config at any time, but most are not written to deal with that, and just die horribly when you make a boo boo. I tried it for a while, and after losing my entire GTD database twice in a week, I gave up.

iCloud is frankly like magic. It just works. Even now on Lion I just sign in to it when I set up my new Mac, and instantly, my mail, contacts, and calendars are working. I can change something on my iPhone and watch it change in near-real-time on my desktop and iPad. With the iCloud APIs, all apps will be able to pull off that trick.

As I said before, iCloud is a slow-burner. Don't judge it yet, Apple are just getting started with it.

So, Bravo for Apple bringing in these features and making their great products even better. But this year the innovations are coming from Redmond instead of Cuppertino.

I disagree. I think we'll look back at WindowsRT and realise that Apple had it right, a desktop is not a tablet, and vicaversa, and trying to built a single UI for both is folly.

Bart.