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"Swallowing" as a selling point

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This has started to annoy me. In places like Squirt profiles and other hookup sites I see statements like "I always swallow" (i.e. swallow cum) as if to suggest that oral sex is second-rate if the cum is not swallowed. I've also been asked "Do you swallow?", again as though that's a vitally important consideration.

Firstly, I myself prefer not to take cum in my mouth. That's partly because of the health risk, but also because I have never particularly liked the taste of semen. It doesn't sicken me, I just don't like it much.

Secondly, when someone else is sucking me, I very often find that. to put it plainly, they just suck too hard, making my dick hurt rather than stimulating it, I often have to tell guys repeatedly to take it easy and slow down, Just after cumming, the dick is extra sensitive, and the problem is even worse. For that reason I generally withdraw as soon as I have cum; they may think I am doing so out of consideration for them, to avoid making them swallow, but in fact it's more out of consideration for myself, because it's no longer pleasurable to be in their mouth.

Am I the only one who thinks that swallowing is over-rated? I sometimes think it's more about dom/sub symbolism than about actual enjoyment of sex.
 

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Personally I don't like the taste myself, but it's quite handy just to swallow it. Ofc I consider the risks depending with who am I dealing with. People like different stuff.
 

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I don't like the taste so very rarely swallowed in the days before we became aware of all the risks, preferring not to take it in my mouth or to spit it out. But the number of very young and up-tight Catholic schoolboys Down Under that you could get if you agreed to swallow (been trained not to waste it but unsure what that was supposed to mean, probably) was incredible.
 
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I think the idea of swallowing is gross. but if that is what someone likes good for them but I could never to it. I tried to do it with my own and threw up and just the thought of it now is making me sick. but you have me curious now what are the risks? I thought the acid in the stomach would kill anything.
 

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I think the idea of swallowing is gross. but if that is what someone likes good for them but I could never to it. I tried to do it with my own and threw up and just the thought of it now is making me sick. but you have me curious now what are the risks? I thought the acid in the stomach would kill anything.
If you're referring to HIV, the last I heard was that if you get cum in your throat then swallowing it is safer than swishing it around in your mouth and attempting to spit it out. (Probably best to still rinse your mouth out afterwards.) As you say, the stomach acids would kill most things, and certainly the HIV bug.

I imagine you could still pick up less serious infections, but probably nothing worse than you would get from kissing.
 

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Most of the guys here say that "swallowing" is gross. OK that's your opinion. But what do you think it is GROSS that is for others likable!!!

Well some people like to eat asparagus or broccoli or spinach - for me all these things are a no go! Well - FOR ME! You may like it.

And "swallowing" is surely not a "vitally important consideration". But is everyone who likes to swallow now a "bad guy" or an "nastier guy"?

I think everyone of us here and all over the world, may he or she be gay, lesbian or hetero, will have special preferences - which I don't like or you don't like - but that are the preferences of this person (and not yours!).

We all watch porn movies. There are so many different porns on the market - and many of them appeal to my imagination but there are as well many others which are disgusting for me. But here too will be many out there who would like just these films which I find disgusting!

What I want to say is, that no one will have the right to judge over others and their preferences.
 

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Swallowing is largely situational. The taste and texture of cum varies widely among individuals, and can vary with the same individual at different times. If it tastes OK in the moment, its often easier and less messy (and hotter) to just swallow it. Most guys will be pleased if you do, and if you happen to be turned on by the idea of it with that guy in that moment, why not? Of course if it ain't your thing, it ain't your thing: if you hate swallowing, then don't ever do it.

Wardell, "tasting your own" isn't a helpful way to decide: it gets cold immediately and tastes awful that way. When another guy cums in your mouth and you swallow in that split second, its much easier and nicer (and being very turned on and into that guy might make you want to). Again, it varies: some guys cum so hard they kinda shoot straight down your throat without much taste at all. Other times, if a guy has a large cock and/or you aren't very skilled at BJs, the cum is more likely to wash all over your tongue. The more time you have to think about it or make a conscious effort to swallow, the more chance you may not like it, so be quick if you're skittish.

The most common oral health "risk" in today's environment isn't swallowing a potential HIV transmission, its the possibility you'll be exposed to HPV just by taking a random cock into your mouth at all. HPV isn't generally fatal for men, but its an invisible infection that can potentially make you more susceptible to things like cancer later on when you're older. This is why USA has recently stepped up efforts to convince parents to vaccinate their kids against HPV.

Chances of of exposure to HPV are very small if you're only playing with exclusively gay men, but many of us out there cast a much wider net. If you tend to have random hookups with "straight" or "married" men, your chances are higher (they pick up HPV from their female partners, potentially passing it to whoever swings on their cock outside that relationship). Rate of guys turning up in clinics with chlamydia up their bums from having frequent anal with "straight" men is also climbing, again traced to the tops dipping their wicks in both sexes.

Mother Nature is a bitch: she's not happy unless she can find a way to transmit some unpleasantness or other via sex. In the past decade or so, her newest trick is making male>male sex a transmission vector for things that had previously been exclusive to women (suddenly, their husbands/boyfriends became capable of transmitting HPV and chlamydia to male sex partners). All one can do is take good care of their own personal health, and make informed choices of risk/reward with various partners.
 
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Most of the guys here say that "swallowing" is gross. OK that's your opinion. But what do you think it is GROSS that is for others likable!!!

Well some people like to eat asparagus or broccoli or spinach - for me all these things are a no go! Well - FOR ME! You may like it.

And "swallowing" is surely not a "vitally important consideration". But is everyone who likes to swallow now a "bad guy" or an "nastier guy"?

I think everyone of us here and all over the world, may he or she be gay, lesbian or hetero, will have special preferences - which I don't like or you don't like - but that are the preferences of this person (and not yours!).

We all watch porn movies. There are so many different porns on the market - and many of them appeal to my imagination but there are as well many others which are disgusting for me. But here too will be many out there who would like just these films which I find disgusting!

What I want to say is, that no one will have the right to judge over others and their preferences.

Looks like I trod on a nerve.

I'm not "judging" anybody. I never said swallowing was gross, or that guys who do it are "nasty". All I said was that I don't care for it myself, and I think it's overrated.
 

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Looks like I trod on a nerve.

I'm not "judging" anybody. I never said swallowing was gross, or that guys who do it are "nasty". All I said was that I don't care for it myself, and I think it's overrated.

Quite right. You and no-one else said it was gross, just that they do or don't like it. Too-quick reading and misinterpretation and an explosive, almost-abusive, response when nothing negative has been said at all leads to ill feeling on boards like this. If English is not your native language, and sometimes when it is, some people should check their interpretation with a friend before angrily replying.
 
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Quite right. You and no-one else said it was gross, just that they do or don't like it. Too-quick reading and misinterpretation and an explosive, almost-abusive, response when nothing negative has been said at all leads to ill feeling on boards like this. If English is not your native language, and sometimes when it is, some people should check their interpretation with a friend before angrily replying.

actually I am one who said it was gross but I do not mean that any one who likes it is gross I just meant I THINK it's gross. I'm not judging any one if that is what you like good for you, you do what makes you happy. I don't think any one who likes it is gross or bad.
 
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Most of the guys here say that "swallowing" is gross. OK that's your opinion. But what do you think it is GROSS that is for others likable!!!

Well some people like to eat asparagus or broccoli or spinach - for me all these things are a no go! Well - FOR ME! You may like it.

And "swallowing" is surely not a "vitally important consideration". But is everyone who likes to swallow now a "bad guy" or an "nastier guy"?

I think everyone of us here and all over the world, may he or she be gay, lesbian or hetero, will have special preferences - which I don't like or you don't like - but that are the preferences of this person (and not yours!).

We all watch porn movies. There are so many different porns on the market - and many of them appeal to my imagination but there are as well many others which are disgusting for me. But here too will be many out there who would like just these films which I find disgusting!

What I want to say is, that no one will have the right to judge over others and their preferences.

I'm sorry for upsetting you :big hug:
 

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I'm sorry for upsetting you :big hug:

Wardell - dear friend you haven't upsetting me. It was your opinion - and that is ok. My opinion is another one (well I like it very much!). So no enmity!!!! p:pp:pp:p
 

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Swallowing, or having my cum swallowed, depends upon the guy I am with. It's not necessary either way. I personally don't cum so easily from oral sex. Sometimes cum play is fun, sharing and so forth.
 

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Swallowing

Hey there! This is a pretty interesting subject, and I hadn't really thought about it in this way until I read your post.

You're right. I do get asked a lot when I'm about to hook up with someone if I swallow or not, I didn't think to much about it. For me, if I'm the one being sucked off and the guy is going to swallow my cum, the act of swallowing is another climatic event that makes me cum maybe just a tad bit harder. However, because I know that not everyone likes the taste of it, it has never been a selling point of hooking up. If you do, you do. If you don't, you don't.

When I'm the one doing the sucking, and the potential swallowing, it's all about how much did I enjoy the sex with my partner. If I am really into the guy and have had great sex, I am more into swallowing then. If I wasn't really into him, or though the sex was sub/par, I'm probably going to let the cum go elsewhere.

I'd say that the act of swallowing is over rated if it is going to be a defining point of the sex. However, in the hook up world, I think it is also good to know what you are expecting from your partner, and what he is expecting from you. Sex can be awesome, but if you were expecting something that didn't happen, then the whole experience can be a let down. Good communication with your partner is important.
 

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I want to stress what dragonscub said in this thread above: That the taste of cum varies a lot, not just from one person to another, but depending also on a bunch of other factors - what you've eaten & drunk the last day, if you smoke or not, what's your health condition etc etc etc. I find it quite fascinating to know from experience how much the taste of cum can vary!
 

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I think it is also good to know what you are expecting from your partner, and what he is expecting from you. Sex can be awesome, but if you were expecting something that didn't happen, then the whole experience can be a let down. Good communication with your partner is important.
True, and this applies to everything you do, not just swallowing. I can think of many occasions when I brought someone home, or went home with them, and they were expecting fucking to take place even though I had explicitly said that I did not fuck. (This, at the time, was a half-truth; the full truth was that I wanted to keep open for myself the option of not fucking, because very often I found myself not wanting to go through with it.)

It seems that many men hear what they want to hear, and ignore the rest. They probably thought "He says that now, but he'll change his mind when I get him in the sack." It takes a bit of guts to tell a total stranger what you do and don't do in the bedroom; it shouldn't be too much to ask of them that they listen, and take note.
 

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In my personal experience, I've found my orgasms to be much more intense when my partner swallows and a few times I came a second time just a few seconds later.
I've also noticed a difference in my partners intensity when I've swallowed for him. Just like when fucking, it fells so much better to cum inside, even with a condom than pulling out...
 

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I just steer away from ppl who have too high "demands". It just kills the fun of meeting two totally different person. The fun part about doing things with other people is the fact that it's different. Some see it as pre-scripted porn scene, and that is just boring. Ofc it can be fun to talk about the stuff ppl like beforehand, but being too restricting is just, well, restricting.

I once asked a guy on grindr who was very demanding about swallowing cum (and I wasn't even looking for right now, but the guy was pushy even though I told him I'm not looking for just sex), "do you swallow sh*t?":p I mean I can swallow cum, but that wasn't the point. He just tried to force the conversation only direction he cared, his direction. And ofc then I was out of line according to him... :duh:
 

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I am sure on the other side of this then a lot of others in this post. Oral sex without swallowing to me would be gross.
I would find it rude as hell if a person didn't let you swallow their cum after you have sucked them to the point of cumming. I would not suck someone if I knew they wouldn't let me swallow.
Swallowing semen has been known to lower blood pressure, enhance moods, boost the immune system, and lessen acne. Some people even regard swallowing sperm as a spiritual, cultural, and social “norm.”
I guess the safety concern would enter into it if you were blowing random people with no regards to their health.
I do however feel people have the right to do it however they please.
 

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I am sure on the other side of this then a lot of others in this post. Oral sex without swallowing to me would be gross.
I would find it rude as hell if a person didn't let you swallow their cum after you have sucked them to the point of cumming. I would not suck someone if I knew they wouldn't let me swallow.
Swallowing semen has been known to lower blood pressure, enhance moods, boost the immune system, and lessen acne. Some people even regard swallowing sperm as a spiritual, cultural, and social “norm.”
I guess the safety concern would enter into it if you were blowing random people with no regards to their health.
I do however feel people have the right to do it however they please.

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up:
That's what I feel and think ----- and what I do!!!
 
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