Whitout words:We don't have homosexuals in Iran...anymore.

[Ioanna]

 

[Ioanna]

 

[Ioanna]

 

[Shelter]

Where on earth is here the great outcry. That are boys and men like all of us here! Is that nothing to decry? Didn't turn these pictures your stomach?

 

[lovetosuckcock]

Where on earth is here the great outcry. That are boys and men like all of us here! Is that nothing to decry? Didn't turn these pictures your stomach?

Yes, those pictures do turn my stomach. There is no outcry because it is not politically correct to criticize or condemn anything done in a Muslim country.

 

[dargelos]

To protest against the execution of one group in one country will not work. The death penalty is the enemy here. When it exists it can be used like this. Only when there is no death penalty for any crime can we hope that the law will not be used to suppress gays or any other minority group.
Amnesty International are supporting prisoners at risk of this inhuman punishment, its a long hard road but some progress is being made. Their work needs funds, if you are able to make a charitable donation it will be to a good cause.
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They fight against cruelty in every country, Muslim or otherwise, politically correct or otherwise, which means making a lot of enemies.

 

[W!nston]

I'm no expert on Islam, Shari'ah Law, The Koran nor any other Muslim practices. I don't think there are many active GH members who live in Muslim countries.

I have read that the dogma of Islam is very harsh in it's views of homosexuality and the proscribed punishment for homosexuality is very harsh as well.

It seems to me that all Muslim countries persecute homosexuals as the Koran teaches. I don't see how that will ever change. Anyone who believes Muslims can be convinced to ignore the dogma of Islam may be fooling themselves.

Here's an excerpt of the Wiki page about LGBT Rights in good old Saudi Arabia:

The rights of LGBT people in Saudi Arabia are unrecognized. Homosexuality is frequently a taboo subject in Saudi Arabian society and is punished with imprisonment, fines, corporal punishment, capital punishment, whipping/flogging, and chemical castrations. Transgenderism is generally associated with homosexuality.

Criminal laws

Saudi Arabia has no criminal code as traditionally the legal system of Saudi Arabia has consisted of royal decrees and the legal opinions of Muslim judges and clerics, and not legal codes/written law. Much of the subsequent written law has focused on the areas of economics and foreign relations. Reformists have often called for codified laws, and there does appear to be a trend within the country to codify, publish, and even translate some Saudi criminal and civil laws.

In 1928, the Saudi judicial board advised Muslim judges to look for guidance in two books by the Hanbalite jurist Marʿī ibn Yūsuf al-Karmī al-Maqdisī (d.1033/1624). Liwat (sodomy) is to be "treated like fornication, and must be punished in the same way. If muḥṣan [commonly translated as "adulterer" but technically meaning someone who has had legal intercourse, but who may or may not currently be married] and free [not a slave], one must be stoned to death, while a free bachelor must be whipped 100 lashes and banished for a year."

Sodomy is proven either by the perpetrator confessing four times or by the testimony of four trustworthy Muslim men, who have been eyewitnesses to the act. If there are fewer than four witnesses, or if one of them is not upstanding, they are all to be chastised with 80 lashes for slander.

It is unclear how many people have been executed for sodomy. Some of the official news reports on persons convicted of sodomy seem to provide conflicting opinions.

Laws are enforced by the police and the "religious police" known as the Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, which views combating homosexuality as one of the behaviors it concentrates on along with heterosexual "immorality", consumption of alcohol and magic.

In October 2007, British human rights activists protested recent reports that the Saudi government was sending British mosques material urging the killing of gays and subjugation of women.

International protests from human rights organizations prompted some Saudi officials within the Saudi Arabian embassy in Washington D.C. to unofficially and incorrectly imply that their kingdom will only use the death penalty when someone has been convicted of child molestation, rape, sexual assault, murder or engaging in anything deemed to be a form of political advocacy.

In 2010, Prince Saud bin Abdulaziz bin Nasir al Saud was charged with the murder of his male companion while on holiday in London. He was subsequently convicted and sentenced to a long prison term. According to the prosecutor, the Prince sexually and physically abused his servant as well as paid other men for sexual services.

Criminal charges are often brought by the government sanctioned Committee for Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice. For example. In 2010, a 27-year-old Saudi man was sentenced to five years in prison, 500 lashes of the whip, and a SR50,000 fine after appearing in an amateur gay video online allegedly taken inside a Jeddah prison. According to an unnamed government source, “The District Court sentenced the accused in a homosexuality case that was referred to it by the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice (the Hai’a) in Jeddah before he was tried for impersonating a security man and behaving shamefully and with conduct violating the Islamic teachings.” The case started when the Hai’a’s staff arrested the man under charges of practicing homosexuality. He was referred to the Bureau for Investigation and Prosecution, which referred him to the District Court.

Even government officials are not immune from criminal sanctions. A gay Saudi diplomat named Ali Ahmad Asseri applied for asylum in the United States after the Saudi government discovered his sexuality.[14]

Recent reports of people being executed for homosexuality often add other charges to the offense, typically theft, rape or murder. For example, a gay Yemeni was executed for homosexuality and murder in 2013.[15]

In 2014, a 24-year-old Saudi Arabian man was sentenced to three years detention and 450 lashes after a Medina court found him guilty of “promoting the vice and practice of homosexuality,” after he was caught using Twitter to arrange dates with other men.

LGBT Rights In Saudi Arabia (Wikipedia)

 

[Shelter]

This is just my thought but once again we have another proof that religion is the root of all devil.

This obsession with what consenting adults do in private is, to me, completely unfathomable. It is also an inescapable fact that secular countries are much kinder to their minorities.

This persecution of citizens is a disgusting and deliberate misinterpretation of what the founders of both christianity and islam intended which was a message of love and peace. How utterly despicable that man would so torment his fellow man – all in the name of ‘faith’.

I admit to your words RockNLol religion is the root of all evil BUT in my opinion and convincement not the faith. I don't like the church because the church is like an industrial company headed by ordinary men (priests) or women (nuns).
But I don't see a contradiction therein to have my faith. That is something very private!

 

[dargelos]

It took a long time to erradicate slavery. Many christians quoted the bible to support god's acceptance of slavery. There were a lot of vested interests to overcome but we got there. The world was a better place afterwards.
Some countries have succeeded in getting complete separation of church and state. Some countries have succeeded in banishing the death penalty. The promised doom never materialised after these reforms, the outcomes are all positve. I am still waiting for the collapse of the family after the first gay marriage.
With other countries progress is painfully slow. But the overall tide in the right direction. There is always hope that the future can be better than the past. Dont give up.

 

[brmstn69]

It took a long time to erradicate slavery. Many christians quoted the bible to support god's acceptance of slavery. There were a lot of vested interests to overcome but we got there. The world was a better place afterwards.
Some countries have succeeded in getting complete separation of church and state. Some countries have succeeded in banishing the death penalty. The promised doom never materialised after these reforms, the outcomes are all positve. I am still waiting for the collapse of the family after the first gay marriage.
With other countries progress is painfully slow. But the overall tide in the right direction. There is always hope that the future can be better than the past. Dont give up.

I have news for you, slavery has not been eradicated. It is alive and well, in fact it's flourishing. It's everywhere, from the Middle-East, to Asia, Europe and even America.

ISIS is selling women and children from captured territories as slaves, Boko Haram is kidnapping school girls and forcing them into marriage to their soldiers, through out the middle east and Asia girls are sold as wives or forced into prostitution. Children are forced to work in mines and sweat shops. In South America the drug cartels use slave labor to work in coco fields and drug labs. Human traffickers smuggle immigrants into the US and force them into sweat shops and prostitution In Europe, the US, and the UK the is a huge problem with wealthy foreigners (usually middle-eastern) hiring foreign domestic staff (usually from Indonesia) confiscating their passports, and using them as slave labor...

 

[jw4833]

I met a guy a few years ago who is from Iran and he and I became good friends while he was here visiting ...but he confided in me that in his country...homosexuality is a very severe crime. He had told me stories about guys who got caught having sex with other men and how they were punished very badly. From the way he spoke about this, it was quite evident why he stayed in the closet and the fear of coming out to his family and being abandoned and disowned by them which was something that he knew would devastate him to no end. Therefore, he decided it was best to stay in the closet. However, I was well aware of the fact that the family would choose a bride for marriage when guys they get to a certain age. In fact, some guys were put into a marriage with their distant female cousins. Unfortunately, I met some Iranian guys over recent years who are in a marriage and yet on the downlow with guys and feel comfortable with this in order to be acceptable by their families. Nonetheless...its a very sad situation to say the least.

 

[garth33]

This is just my thought but once again we have another proof that religion is the root of all devil.

This obsession with what consenting adults do in private is, to me, completely unfathomable. It is also an inescapable fact that secular countries are much kinder to their minorities.

This persecution of citizens is a disgusting and deliberate misinterpretation of what the founders of both christianity and islam intended which was a message of love and peace. How utterly despicable that man would so torment his fellow man – all in the name of ‘faith’.

I completely agree.

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[amiriot]

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