Adobe Creative Cloud Yes or No?

[josh_the_hot_boy]

I'm just gonna say it I hate the Creative Cloud subscription service for Adobe products! I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month. I wanna go down to the store and buy a copy that comes on a dvd. Period.

What do you guys think?



Ps. People seem to forget that we have access to stuff in the cloud not control of it. I don't want my Adobe files in the cloud.

 

[garth33]

Depends what you're doing with it is the bottom line for me. I use it daily in my job. Appreciate the multiple programs and safety of cloud storage but I'm also not paying for it out of my own pocket so it's not costing me. If you use just a few of their programs like Premiere, Photoshop, or After Effects on a regular basis it's probably still worth the monthly fee because each program would have probably cost you $100+ for a full but dated version. Just my opinion Josh

g33

 

[josh_the_hot_boy]

I don't trust cloud storage.

 

[josh_the_hot_boy]

I know that my e-mail and everything else is on a cloud storage. I just don't like using the cloud as a personal harddrive. Like some people do.

 

[gb2000ie]

I'm just gonna say it I hate the Creative Cloud subscription service for Adobe products! I don't wanna pay 20 bucks a month. I wanna go down to the store and buy a copy that comes on a dvd. Period.

What do you guys think?

I think it's a massive leap forward for pro digital artists. You always have the latest and greatest version, and you can budget for it MUCH easier - you know exactly how much you'll need each month. The old way you had to pay an absolute fortune every few years - very hard on cashflow and you never really knew when the Adobe tax would become due.

Ps. People seem to forget that we have access to stuff in the cloud not control of it. I don't want my Adobe files in the cloud.

I don't follow - you do know that when you buy the adobe cloud subscription neither the software nor the files are in the cloud right?

You install the software on your computer as normal, but you download the installer instead of buying it on a DVD, and it phones home once a month to be sure you have a current subscription. Your files are on your computer just as normal, as is the software.

Creative Cloud is just a buzzword for what used to be called "software as a service" before marketing directors became fixated with the word 'cloud'.

Adobe also do an optional cloud storage service for those who want their files in the cloud, but it's entirely optional.

B.

 

[josh_the_hot_boy]

When I said ps. I was referring to peoples own personal files.

 

[josh_the_hot_boy]

FYI I made this post because Adobe has gotten rid of their dvd versions of most of their products. and only only offers there lasted stuff via the cloud. I was merely frustrated that they didn't give people an option as to weather they want the cloud version or the dvd version.

 

[gb2000ie]

FYI I made this post because Adobe has gotten rid of their dvd versions of most of their products. and only only offers there lasted stuff via the cloud. I was merely frustrated that they didn't give people an option as to weather they want the cloud version or the dvd version.

Welcome to the future

I can't get Windows on floppy disk anymore either

B.

 

[josh_the_hot_boy]

I just wish that Adobe had given customers a choice between the dvd version and the Creative Cloud version.

 

[gb2000ie]

I just wish that Adobe had given customers a choice between the dvd version and the Creative Cloud version.

I can see how as a consumer that seems simple. But, as a computer scientist and software engineer it looks very different.

1) security updates - when you sell a boxed copy of version X, you then have to keep it up-to-date with security updates for at least a few years. On an expensive piece of kit like the creative suite, there will be people using many versions back at any one time, so you have to maintain a lot of legacy code for a long time. Contrast that with creative cloud - everyone is entitled to the latest version for no extra charge, so you only have to maintain one version, freeing engineers to do useful work. This is good for consumers because there are more engineers working on cool new stuff all the time.

2) continuous versus big-step updates - when you make software for a living you have to have a constant flow of income. The old way to do that was to release new versions every year or two and charge for upgrading. You would bundle a whole load of changes together to create this new version, and try to find one or two star features to convince people it's worth parting with their cash. Finding a good value proposition is easy when software is new, but with mature software it gets hard. "it does all the same stuff but faster and easier" is not going to convince people to hand over a few hundred green! There is also presure to get everything ready at the same time - so inevitably half-baked crap gets shipped. Compare and contrast to the software as a service model - now you have a constant stream of income regardless, so you can focus on making your software better, not making flashy marketing features. You can also release things as and when they are ready. Consumers get new stuff at a constant steady rate, and all of it properly tested before released (in theory anyway).

So - all this gives us, the end user three big advantages:
1) control over cashflow
2) better security
3) a steady flow of new features that are better tested when they're unleashed

It's a big change, but as someone who makes their living from computers, I have no doubt that it's a change for the better.

B.

 

[garth33]

I can see how as a consumer that seems simple. But, as a computer scientist and software engineer it looks very different.

1) security updates - when you sell a boxed copy of version X, you then have to keep it up-to-date with security updates for at least a few years. On an expensive piece of kit like the creative suite, there will be people using many versions back at any one time, so you have to maintain a lot of legacy code for a long time. Contrast that with creative cloud - everyone is entitled to the latest version for no extra charge, so you only have to maintain one version, freeing engineers to do useful work. This is good for consumers because there are more engineers working on cool new stuff all the time.

2) continuous versus big-step updates - when you make software for a living you have to have a constant flow of income. The old way to do that was to release new versions every year or two and charge for upgrading. You would bundle a whole load of changes together to create this new version, and try to find one or two star features to convince people it's worth parting with their cash. Finding a good value proposition is easy when software is new, but with mature software it gets hard. "it does all the same stuff but faster and easier" is not going to convince people to hand over a few hundred green! There is also presure to get everything ready at the same time - so inevitably half-baked crap gets shipped. Compare and contrast to the software as a service model - now you have a constant stream of income regardless, so you can focus on making your software better, not making flashy marketing features. You can also release things as and when they are ready. Consumers get new stuff at a constant steady rate, and all of it properly tested before released (in theory anyway).

So - all this gives us, the end user three big advantages:
1) control over cashflow
2) better security
3) a steady flow of new features that are better tested when they're unleashed

It's a big change, but as someone who makes their living from computers, I have no doubt that it's a change for the better.

B.

gb's right Josh...and with my job - I'm just a fish in a pond (24 video producers spread over 6 cities) so the "cloud" solution only makes sense. We redundantly back up our files anyway and Adobe adds an additional layer of protection for us that's also a backup system in itself. It is the future....for better or worse:thinking:

peace,
g

 

[topdog]

Welcome to the future

I can't get Windows on floppy disk anymore either

B.

Let's see, Windows 8.1 install is about 3.5 GB - so that would be about 2489 floppy disks?