Classical music [Youtube Clips]

[ihno]

Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy wrote five symphonies of which he liked three (more or less) and disliked two. Interestingly one of those little valued works now is one of the most often played pieces of classical music (the fourth: italian).

In 1824 with 15 he wrote his first symphony (after 13 so called string symphonies), which he hold dear his whole short life. It's very much written in the tradition of Mozart and includes many motives of the Symphony in g-minor (No. 40)



Mendelssohn - Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 11: IV. Allegro con Fuoco

In comparison:



Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Symphony No. 40 in G minor KV 550, 1788

 

[gorgik9]

@ ihno

Yet another great post ! Thanks a bunch, you're the true professor in this thread !

 

[loretta]

when worlds collide..

This is not really classical music, but it is so wonderful that i think everyone with an open mind can enjoy this combination

 

[ihno]

@ ihno

Yet another great post ! Thanks a bunch, you're the true professor in this thread !

Thank you. Happy you like. :big hug:

There is one interesting thing about the Mendelssohn/Mozart-Connection here with the 1st Mendelssohn symphony, which unfortunately is rarely performed. (Go get the Kuijken recording, not one of those cheesy ones. )

I think it shows that Beethoven wasn't as important yet as he became after death. It's from 1824 when Beethoven was still alive. Actually Beethoven had to suffer a bit from the fact that Constanze Mozart published her husband's works one after another after his death.

But even later Johannes Brahms thought that the last Mozart symphonies were more interesting than the first Beethoven symphonies, so he valued them higher than Beethoven's early works.

Here in mediocre quality a concert of the 39th and the 40th symphony from the summer 1788 with Anima Aeterna - a very good emsemble. The play is great.



I especially like the Introduction of the 39th - sounds like pure "enlightenment". At 34:00 the 40th begins with one of the most popular themes of classical music.

Sometimes you can read that Mozart's last 3 symphonies have never been performed during his lifetime. That's just a clichee. Mozart wrote a second version of the 40th, which he might not have done if they were never played at all.

 

[ihno]

Oops, just realised i put 2nd movement instead of 3rd, too busy thinking that the 3rd movement is the slow movement which traditionally was the 2nd movement in 3 movement concertos!

And this from Mr. Sonataform himself...

Do you know the Cellosonatas, esp. the first in e-minor?



There is an "edit"-Button, so you can correct your mistake next time.

 

[ihno]

Do that, fitnic!

Since it's Karfreitag...

The extraordinary opening chours "Herr unser Herrscher" from Bach's St John's Passion, the smaller one of the two passions, that have overcome and we have today.

The other passion, St. Matthew's, is longer and was first performed publically after Bach's death by Mendelssohn (with the last of Bach's grandsons present) in 1829. The St. John Passion was first performed in 1833 in Berlin but didn't meet much praise. It was said to be too difficult and complicated and that people might not be a able to understand the first chorus.

It was Schumann who in the 1840s and 50s pushed the smaller one with performances in Dresden and Duesseldorf to help the world to come clear about the St. John's Passion.



Bach Collegium Japan, Suzuki pp.



LCR, CV Gent, Herreweghe pp.

 

[gorgik9]

Ah, yes today it's the official Johann Sebastian Bach-day!!!
Und lob sei Preis zu unser ihno... (Eh... I'm not really sure if that's good jirmen, though...)

 

[edkiko]

cool

 

[Javert5]

Is Music the Food of Life

Hoi guys.

I'm ihno and I am new. ;P

Seems there are some threads on music but none on classical music. So, who likes it? You can't all listen solely to Madonna.

I listen to it a lot, like symphonical and choral music from Purcell to Elgar, with some exceptions.

This is one of my faves, the Requiem from Michael Haydn, which at first resembles of Mozart's (later) Requiem, Joseph's Stabat Mater and Pergolesi.



Do you have any faves?

Great to hear your comments, and i do share your love of classical music... Over the years my taste got "heavier" till i hit Wagner and now i am going back to basics with romantic Puccini and some of the classical ballets... I have learned not to be a music snob and try to give everything a chance....
Its a big pool out there and i like to swim

 

[gm1911]

Wozzeck

Before 20 years ago I have attended music school. There I have a class called „Music history“. We were learning about composers, music styles and other things and we have also listened some music excerpts from important works. When we talked about early 20th century Berg was mentioned among other composers (The Second Viennese School). We heard excerpts from Wozzeck (I don’t remember what). At that time most of us thought that this music is dull, bad and boring and unlistenable. Before year or two I have bought this opera (Boulez and Paris opera choir and orchestra). I have listened CD and thought:”Why did I buy this garbage?”.
Recently I heard Lulu suite, loved it and I'm thinking Wozzeck deserve another try. This time I love it. I can't stop to listen CD. This clip is complete opera with Karl Böhm conducting, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau as Wozzeck. I would like that Deutsche Grammophon reissue this recording.



In you tube you can see this opera like movie with Toni Blankenheim as Wozzeck.



Enjoy.

 

[ihno]

When Haydn's boss, Mr. Esterhazy, didn't want to let his band go into vacation, Haydn answered in a very subtle muscial way...



Haydn, "Farewell"-symphony - IV.
Concerto Classic Wien: Joseph Haydn, Abschieds-Symphonie Nr. 45, 4. Satz

They had their vacation in the end...

 

[gorgik9]

There are vacations - and the there are the last vacation, the kind of "vacation" from which no one returns to work...
The american writer Edmond White published his great autobiographical novel about the AIDS-epidemy in USA in 1997 ; it's called The Farewell Symphony...

Sometimes having your vacation in the end doesn't mean anyting like what you would think it would mean....

 

[loretta]

my favourite aria

i want this to be played at my funeral, when my ashes is thrown into the wind

 

[ihno]

Ah, Purcell. Yes, that is very wonderful and very sad.

If you choose the Emma Kirkby recording I'll come to your funeral. Will there be cake?

 

[Zimbodood]

Russian Composers

i am of Russian descent and i honestly couldn't be prouder of the musical talent and composers Russia has produced over the years. In the next few posts i will share some of my favorites.

Of course one of the first names that comes to mind when you think of Russian composers would have to be
Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.

Here is some of his work that i like :

Valse Sentimentale


1812 Overture (Finale)


The Nutcracker Suite - Dance of the Reed Flutes


Swan Lake Waltz
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[Zimbodood]

My Second Russian composer would have to be
Alexander Porfiryevich Borodin


Prince Igor


Nocturne from String Quartet no. 2 in D


Requiem


Symphony No.2 in B minor - Allegro
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[Zimbodood]

My Third Russian Composer would have to be
Modest Petrovich Mussorgsky.

Prelude to Khovanshchina


Pictures at an Exhibition (Promenade + Gnomus)


Pictures at an Exhibition (The Great Gate of Kiev)


St. John's Night on the Bare Mountain
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[Zimbodood]

My Fourth Russian Composer would have to be
Nikolai Andreyevich Rimsky-Korsakov

Procession of the Nobles


Dance Of The Tumblers


Flight of the bumblebee


Symphonic Suite Scheherazade, Op. 35- IV. Allegro molto
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[gorgik9]

@ Zimbodood
A truly great suit of posts !!! Thank you so very much!!!
And since there are more great russian composers, I hope you will make some more posts...

 

[loretta]

purcell again

hi ihno, how about this version?