do you trust GOD?

[etilit]

whatever you belive

 

[lavaj]

I don't identify with a religion, however I have no problems with God. Just the people use God to justify negative actions (or lack of). I think religion has the potential to be a beautiful thing.

 

[Otage]

I don't identify with a religion, however I have no problems with God. Just the people use God to justify negative actions (or lack of). I think religion has the potential to be a beautiful thing.

Amen.

 

[gb2000ie]

It's hard to trust in a fictitious figure!

I do trust something that I haven't got a name for. A few times in my life I've had an intuition that I was at a bifurcation in my life, and that I should go down one path and not another. As I trod down the indicated path, it felt like I was somehow doing what I was destined to do.

Maybe some people would call that God, but I don't.

B.

 

[Rozas]

YES!

 

[uoskl]

No

 

[shyguy155]

I don't identify with a religion, however I have no problems with God. Just the people use God to justify negative actions (or lack of).

Agreed, but in my view it's better to trust in luck more than God.

 

[tomik776655]

I believe GOD exists... but I have a problem to trust in God... anyway I feel he trusts in me so I'm hoping later I'll be able to accept him and trust in him...

 

[police151]

I absolutely trust GOD, He made "THE CURE", thats pretty cool with me!

 

[BigBenni]

If there is any God, why my father died with only 51 years of age? If there is a God then he has a really misterious way to lead the fate! Well I accept every religion and every belief but I myself don't believe in any God.

 

[bigsal]

If there is any God, why my father died with only 51 years of age? If there is a God then he has a really misterious way to lead the fate! Well I accept every religion and every belief but I myself don't believe in any God.

And I add,

With what is happening and has happened in the world, if a god exists, you should sue him, do not pray or believe in him. :no:

 

[Cutboi2000]

No

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

If there is any God, why my father died with only 51 years of age? If there is a God then he has a really misterious way to lead the fate! Well I accept every religion and every belief but I myself don't believe in any God.

Amen to that aaaaaaaamen, I'd like to ask that fluffy cloud rider the same questions; too many of my friends, acquaintances, family members, people I helped during my missionary trips who have died too young whether by malnutrition or extreme poverty, good friends who have fell into drugs and can't get off it, who have contracted AIDS not because they didn't pay attention, but because some didn't care about themselves and endangered the life of others. God where is my biological mom? Where's my biological dad? For you're sake god I was only 3 years old, what kind of twisted fuck deity are you? Where are my 6 or 7 other brothers and sisters that I won't ever find. Why did you kill my first girlfriend of a car accident at 17 years old (what the fuck did she ever did to you?:angry. Why did you afflicted my sole and only biological sister with that rare skin disease that destroyed her childhood for being teased so much (she's okay now but no thanks to you). Last year you almost killed my boyfriend Alex so much he was sick to confront his mother (if you would have succeed that god I swear to you I would have burn all churches, synagogues and temples), you killed many of my loved one but touch this one and trust me I'll start a new religion which will be worst than Satan himself.

But don't you worry god I had you pay already... because I don't believe in you at all, therefore whatever happened in my life, to me it's just life and life can be lived to its fullest without the need of kissing your unearthly ass. I don't hate you and I don't love and I don't trust you because I only hate, love and trust what I can see, feel, and truly interact with. You you're a figment of billion of people's imagination who can't accept that there's a beginning and an end to everything and everyone.

 

[logan222]

I believe in God!

I used to blame him for everything bad that happened, but I've come to terms with the fact that it's not his job (or her job) to make sure no one around me dies or that absolutely nothing negative happens to me. People need to die, unfortunately. Some leave too early and some live long lives, but I believe that God works in mysterious ways...so mysterious that no one will ever understand them.

I don't associate with any church. I grew up as an Adventist, and although I admire them and think they're great people doing great things, I don't agree with any organized religion. I think everyone needs to find God in his or her own way and slowly decipher what he (or she) means to him/her.

I had some huge doubts in God when my grandpa died. He was like a second father to me, and I prayed day in and day out for God to save him. When my parents woke me up and I saw the tears in my mom's eyes, I knew that he was gone already. I spent a lot of months frustrated, thinking that God either doesn't exist or that he didn't care about me or my prayers. Now, I've come to terms with the fact that the world doesn't revolve around me, and it's not God's job to make sure that all of my friends and family live until forever.

I am not religious. I just believe and trust in God in my own way. I talk to him rarely and he's answered many of my prayers.

Almost all religions shun me for what I am - gay, but I think God actually created non-heterosexuals for a reason, which is to control the population. We've got too many people up in here, and homosexuality is more than likely God's way of telling us that we need to stop shooting out kids like factory products. Our planet cannot fairly sustain all of us; we our bleeding our planet dry!

 

[RayDeath]

No way!

 

[iryhousen]

IMO, "God" is about as trustworthy as "Satan". I believe in enlightenment.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

I believe in God!

Don't you worry I am not coming forward to refute your believe, I would in a fact love to be able to believe in some deity but unfortunately this isn't the case. I don't know which god you refer too, but if you were Adventist you're were in one of the 38000 Christian denominations across the world. Yes, for one religion that is a lot of divisions for one god . But I'd love to ask some questions that you have the right to answer or not, yes I am a strong atheist but I am not the one that will tell how stupid a person is for believing in what I don't but I'm always in quest for more knowledge.

I used to blame him for everything bad that happened, but I've come to terms with the fact that it's not his job (or her job) to make sure no one around me dies or that absolutely nothing negative happens to me.

What's god's job? Where can I find his/her/it job's description? In the Bible, Qu'ran, the Tibetan book of the death, in Jehovah's Watch Tower magazine, I've read all of them and several time even and frankly I never seen an actual job description pertaining to god. God has no job. If he/she/it has one it's because we created one for him/her/it and applied it according to our attends and desires. God's plan was only set for a particular group of people; the Israelite and his/her/it plan got extended by the creation of the Christian religion through the gospels of John & Paul. From what I understand according to the books we've got from him/her/it (which has been modified so many time to suit the needs of those in position of authority - not only the bible); there were other people he/she/it created, why such favoritism for one group of people?

Do you know what happens when a group of people believe to be better than anyone else? They belittle others and then we have genocide, infanticide, ethnic cleansing and so on and so forth. Best contemporary example: Hitler.

People need to die, unfortunately. Some leave too early and some live long lives, but I believe that God works in mysterious ways...so mysterious that no one will ever understand them.

Of course people need to die, this is what is call the "circle of life"; you were born and you will die. "God works in mysterious way" that's what they teach you in Sunday school because nobody in any faiths have been able to explain why new parents who have been trying for years to have children finally got one and the child happens to die, to ease their pain, people will go the easy way saying that god works in mysterious way. Remember the covenant between god and Noah (you should because what seals the covenant is a rainbow). In its covenant god promised to never again wipe the earth from living being, and one part that some people are missing is that god isn't going to intervene anymore in human business. Well that ship has sunk because few years later he/she/it kept appearing in people's dream and cause mayhem among them. Is it the work of god or human?

I don't associate with any church. I grew up as an Adventist, and although I admire them and think they're great people doing great things, I don't agree with any organized religion. I think everyone needs to find God in his or her own way and slowly decipher what he (or she) means to him/her.

Church is translate from latin by "templum", "ecclesia", "basilica" which their etymological roots means to regroup or assembly. A church is and assembly of people of similar faiths (we may as well call all the gays who meet at the same time at some place "The Church of gays"). So adavntist are great people, are they great because they all believe in the same god? Can other people be good too (can an atheist be good?), the only two denominations I know from the Adventist are the two biggest ones the "Davidian and Seventh Day". For those who doesn't know what's the Adventist believe in please see below:

Seventh-day Adventists expounded the idea that the second coming of Christ would occur between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844. Their followers, called Adventists, had to rethink their convictions when that event did not occur.The Seventh-day Adventist denomination was established in 1863 (that's a lot of year after Jesus died), appointing Saturday (the seventh day) for worship and rest. Seventh-day Adventists are (supposedly) vegetarian and avoid alcohol and caffeine:thinking:. They accept the Bible as the word of God and await the second coming.

For the Davidian Adventists please visit: http://anonym.to/?http://http://www.davidiansda.org/fundamental_belief.htm

I had some huge doubts in God when my grandpa died. He was like a second father to me, and I prayed day in and day out for God to save him. When my parents woke me up and I saw the tears in my mom's eyes, I knew that he was gone already. I spent a lot of months frustrated, thinking that God either doesn't exist or that he didn't care about me or my prayers. Now, I've come to terms with the fact that the world doesn't revolve around me, and it's not God's job to make sure that all of my friends and family live until forever.

Because I always had doubt about god, even though you can read earlier what I wrote speaking directly to god I understood at a very young age the circle of life, and that every beginning has an end, when will it end, that we don't know and we will never know (one can go see mediums and believe that they'd come with exact date of when you'll die, but yet they can't say how and why). Blaming god for the death of someone you love is in my opinion a very selfish behavior. Why you? Who has something to eat in the fridge, clothes to wear, education, etc. What about Starvin Marvin who doesn't eat everyday, dressed with the same clothes for the last months or so, with a horde of flies chasing him even when he's asleep (if he ever sleeps):thinking:. Yes loosing someone you love is very hurtful, but yet, it's the circle of life (LIFE works in very mysterious ways) and I personally do not associate this to any gods. If I would I'd have all the reasons to hate him/her/it for taking away my biological family and leaving me with only one whom almost died too when she was young. Praise my dad for he was a great pediatrician.

I am not religious. I just believe and trust in God in my own way. I talk to him rarely and he's answered many of my prayers.

Very good, I see praying in a sort of meditation, when you lie on your bed and think about something you need to do you balance the cons and pros and no matter if you believe you pray... my belief is that you actually came up with your own solutions. A request for you since God has answered many of your prayers, can you please ask him to end world hunger? When the people stopped being hungry I'm certain that technology will advance and life will even be better because we have some great minds that never will be developed because their first task is to survive.

Almost all religions shun me for what I am - gay, but I think God actually created non-heterosexuals for a reason, which is to control the population. We've got too many people up in here, and homosexuality is more than likely God's way of telling us that we need to stop shooting out kids like factory products. Our planet cannot fairly sustain all of us; we our bleeding our planet dry!

And yet you will find in all religions an important contingent of gay people, closeted homosexuals who marries, have children and keep living their secret lives. Do you know the most dangerous spreading group who where in the beginning of AIDS, yes my friend those particular ones who would disregard the needs to protect themselves. There's many other reasons, but as a researcher I do know that their number was significant. God created the homosexual?:thinking: Hmmm NO sorry first I don't believe that god had plan to create bisexuals, homosexuals, transgenders, etc. If so he/she/it also created pedophiles which doesn't kill the kid but sure mark them for life.

Deuteronomy: Homosexuality

1. "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are ABOMINATION unto the LORD thy God."22:5
2. God says not be bring any whore, sodomite, or dog into the house of the Lord. For "these things are an ABOMINATION to the Lord." Sodomites and dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23: 17-18
   

So really, god created gays?:no: No he/she/it didn't he/she/it despise them. Remember Genesis from the first series of Pentateuch books? A serpent convinced Eve to take a bite (which convince dumbass chauvinist Adam to take a bit too) in the fruit of knowledge and when they did they discovered about GOOD & EVIL, therefore god didn't creates gay, they created themselves since now they had the conscience of what they were doing. But yet whom sent the snake?

God created gays to balance the world population? Are you certain of that? The gay population doesn't form 1/8 of the world population, so how a small group of gays can prevent the world of being over populated? What about those whom naturally can't have children. They're even less in amount than gays.:thinking:

I didn't want to challenge your beliefs but it is sometimes important to range the oranges with oranges and not mix apples with tomatoes. Speaking of tomatoes: they are the bisexual of the fruit world:rofl: They are at the same time veggie and fruit, so god created that too? We have different type of apples because men has cross generate them... the garden of Eden had only one type; the red ones.

 

[Tjerk12]

I don’t believe in God. I suppose in the first place because my family has a long history of non-believing people. Yet this is not the main reason. I am a doubter; nearly everything has two sides. Absolute makes only sense if it is brought in proportion to something else. “But mister, you must admit that you also think that there is more between heaven and earth, you must have your doubts” said the man with the Watch Tower in his hand to me. “Yes I do, I am full of doubts, but there is a problem. Maybe you should start to have doubts too.” My answer was the end of a very short conversation.
When I am dead there grows grass on my belly.
I don't think God is longing for my trust.

 

[logan222]

Hello, Jake for Toronto! I respect your views on atheism and you make a lot of sound points. I also respect that you respect my own views, too.

BTW, how do you quote multiple parts of someone's post? lol
That would make things easier.

Although I was raised as an Adventist, I don't believe any conceptualization of the Christian God. I believe in a universal God - a deity of mysterious origin and context.

In my opinion; and that's all it is - just my opinion, because I don't think anyone should shove their opinions of what God is down anyone else's throat. Everyone should try to find whichever spiritual persuasion works for them. Anyway, in my opinion, God's job is actuate his master plan. What is that plan? I don't know. Nobody does. There is a line of progress he/she has moved us through where things have gotten progressively better in terms of technology, medicine, knowledge of science, tolerance and then acceptance, etc.

God needs for their to be conflict - for their to be Starvin Marvins and whatnot. In a world of absolutely no conflict, humanity would be absolutely uninspired to progress and become better human beings than what they are. I don't believe in the Christian realm figures like Satan, so I believe there is evil in God, too - it's all part of his plan to sustain progress. He has to constantly balance conflict and love so we can as a society learn from "the bad" to be better equipped to create "the good."

The God I believe in is not the one I think you're envisioning. He/she/it is NOT anthropomorphic. It's not a big all-seeing guy in the sky. It's an invisible force of nature that wanders throughout the universe and is present in the actions of the world.

I also do not mean to offend you, but atheists also belittle others indirectly. They assume that they have reached a level of enlightenment that others have not - that their epiphany of "God does not exist" makes them more enlightened people. Many take religious people to be nuts, crazies, and ignorant fools. And to that, I say that I also belittle people indirectly because I also believe that I have reached a level of enlightenment that others have not reached. I just wanted to point out that religious people, or people of faith, are not the only ones that belittle others. Best contemporary examples: You and I. (Sure, we're not killing anyone, but it's still technically belittling)

Based on your post, it sounds like you have assumed I am still an Adventist. Let me repeat that I am NOT a practicing Adventist, or Christian for that matter. I have my very own spiritual connection with what I call God. However, I think Adventists are great people, and many religious people are in a general sense. My uncle was literally about to die with all of the drug consumption that had consumed his life, but once he found the church (even though I believe they are wrong in so many ways), they convinced him that he still has much to fight for (namely, himself, the betterment of himself, and his family). They taught me values that I still abide by such as not killing others, treating others as you would like to be treated, helping the needy (although I no longer "help" them by talking about Adventism...lol), etc. They also promote an incredibly healthy and long life. They have some odd diet restrictions that many Adventists don't abide by, but for those that do, they live a lot longer than the average person.

Adventists are usually forgotten people that are hardly ever mentioned. It makes me happy that you looked them up or that you found out about them somehow. Like I said, I don't believe in what they teach anymore, but I think they are a respectful group of people in their own right that save lives (not by converting, but by literally saving lives through clinics and hospitals).

Also, since I am not a Christian, it really does nothing for me that you use the Christian Bible to refute my belief in God's creation of non-heterosexuality.

You are absolutely right about prayer! For the most part, it's my own human agency that has caused for the things I prayed for to happen. However, I think there's also an invisible force that sometimes lends a helping hand (an invisible hand, that is...lol).

Regardless of how small we "think" the gay population is, would our planet not be more crowded if they were just straight? I know it's a hypothetical, but my guess is MOST DEFINITELY!

Jake, I read about all of the misfortunes that have occurred during your life, and I am sincerely sorry to hear that you have weathered so mush misfortune. To still be a happy, fun-loving person after all of that is a testament to how strong-willed you are. Although it is horrible that that all of that happened to you, do you not believe that it made you a stronger person, more empowered to try to make the world a better place? I'm not saying you have to believe it was God, but you are most definitely a better person now than you were before you knew how mortifying hardship could be for humanity. You know how much it hurts and you don't want others to go through it. I'll take a stab in the dark and guess that you enjoy helping others - that you're a good friend and you're very sympathetic to people that are having a bad time.

I honestly do not believe it is bad to be atheist or religious, as long as you're living and letting others live happily without harming others. I would say that I'm agnostic - I believe that there is a God, but we can never really truly fathom him/her/it. I came to this realization when I wondered, "How can I be certain that the religion I was born into is the correct one?" Then, I realized that there is NO way. Every religion, one way or another, has a lot of things I think are just straight-up wrong, and even if there were a true religion (which I do not believe), how fair would it be that only a select crowd was raised into it whereas the others were out there being raised to be some other sect or religion.

I feel a deity guiding me, making me suffer constantly so I can grow from my hardships and embrace a better and progressive version of what he/she/it wants me to become.

Jake, I think too many people look at a certain God, like the Christian God, and they deconstruct the possibility of ANY god because that God is so absurd to them. Have you ever felt a deity, an otherworldly presence guiding you or persuading you to become better?

I know my beliefs may seem idiotic and moronic to many people, but at the end of the day, they're MY beliefs. They keep me going. They make me have faith in progress, and I think that they sincerely make me a better person. If others disagree, that's fine. I respect dissenting opinions because my beliefs say that everyone has to find what is "true" for them. For some, it is to be a devout Muslim; to others, it is to deconstruct the possibility of the existence of any deity; to me, it is to believe in an invisible force, a God, or a deity, that invisibly strives to make us better through hardship and aid.

Jake, I would very much like to chat with you, if possible. You sound like a delightful person (and I swear I'm not being sarcastic...lol) to talk to and I think we both have great things to share with each other.

 

[istillhorny]

I'm agnostic, but I think there probably is some kind of higher power out there. I just don't know or pretend to know what it is. After all, I'm only human.