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Dr WHO?

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It is very popular but I have never thought of it as anything other than cheap wooden sci-fi.Now it has special effects but was studio bound at it's birth.I like good Sci-fi but to me this is not it.Mind you I have never been a fan of Star Trek.Now Red Dwarf that is one good show.Any fans think differently?Also any fans outside the UK?
 

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I don't really like Stephen Moffat, the actual producer, very much (and don't like the job he does) but I like Dr.Who rather much. So there's light and shadow like everywhere.

The worst I have seen from Britain, or the worst scifi-show I know is "Primeval". This is sooo bad, there can't be anything worse.
 

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I have always loved Dr Who, been watching it since a kid. I must say I haven't enjoyed the time with Matt Smith, and Stephen Moffat in charge. I think he tries to complicate things too much. Yes the old series used to have wooden sets, and slightly dodgy monsters sometimes, but I think that it had some real charm, and got into some more sci fi type situations. They definately were looking at science issues, and what could and could not happen.
 

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I think Moffat started stronger, but as the show has been ever-increasingly Americanized it's become less fun - the camp of the old series was what really made it great.
 

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is 50 on 23rd November 2013. The longest running SciFi in TV history
 

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Looking forward to seeing it in 3D at the movies next Monday.
 

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Dr who?

I am obviously in the minority here.But it would not do to all like the same thing.
Keep watching
 

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I have always loved Dr Who, been watching it since a kid. I must say I haven't enjoyed the time with Matt Smith, and Stephen Moffat in charge. I think he tries to complicate things too much.

I totally agree, though I would not say Matt Smith is "in charge" there.
I guess you know there will be a new doctor in next season. I'm looking forward to the new one but I wish, Moffat would go too. :D

Yes the old series used to have wooden sets, and slightly dodgy monsters sometimes, but I think that it had some real charm, and got into some more sci fi type situations. They definately were looking at science issues, and what could and could not happen.

You mean monsters like these? :D


I agree too here but only for the older stuff. I watched what was available of the older doctors but stopped with doctors of the 80s. That was not really bearable any more and I can understand they cancelled it. But the older doctors had that "The Avengers" charm, just great.

Btw. they found some episodes that they thought were lost? For the 60s und 70s they used videotapes, which they erased later. Now some copies have been found, I hope with the second doctor. :D
 

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Yeah it was great to hear they found some of the lost episodes. In the early days of the BBC they didn't keep copies of things cuz they didn't do reruns, so there are still a number of stories by the first two doctors that are missing, but every so often an episode or two appears. If you got to Colin Baker, then I understand why you quit, he was not the best. But hey, I think Sylvester McCoy after him was great. It was nice the old series was about the adventure, not a soap opera as it seems to become today.
 

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Oh, it was not the sixth doctor, that made me quit. The quality of the scripts went straight downward long before his time. And with all the negative I've heard about 6, I actually enjoyed him. I also enjoyed McCoy but - as said - the scripts were too weak. I think there just three serials left I haven't watched (except for the missing, I'm not so much into the reconstructions, lol).

As for the soap-opera: yeah, that's as you say. That's a general trend unfortunately: rebooting old stuff and then plaster some kind of "character drama" over it and make it serious and dark too. Yawn. I enjoyed the 9th and 10h doctor very much, Russel T. Davis' doctors were fun to watch, always a little over the top and some scripts silly, but it was a joy.

Now it's Moffat: everything is complicated because of some major (boring) story arc (without a proper conclusion I may add), dark and the worst is: full of cheesy stereotypes and painful embarrassing jokes about "transsexual horses" etc.
 

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LOVE Dr. Who. In Canada here. I think the old series was really cheesy and most of the story lines were very simplistic, but I think they've done a good job in the new series of making the show more complex and a bit darker.
 

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Yeah I agree that the orginal series scripts started to go down hill. Apparently Peter Davison, doctor 5, said if all the stories were as strong as his last one, then he would have stayed longer as the doctor. They missed some of the great writers of the past, and I don't think that Johnathan Nathan Turner was the best for the series. He was a great lover of Doctor Who, but again may have worried a bit more about popularity than strength of story. Though I guess that is the problem of any producer to try and keep the show popular and keep up ratings.
I really enjoyed David Tennant as Doctor. The stories for Christopher Eccelston were great, I just struggle with his character, and any doctor that leaves after one year goes down in my esteem, hey we only have 12 regenerations. (Although of course the Master was able to restart his regenration cycle, so there is always hope).
 

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Coolest doctor who vid ever:

 

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I'm a big fan of the franchise, Looking forward to seeing the movie > The Day of the Doctor (50th Anniversary Special) soon, love:heart: the series so much.

Here is the video of all the theme songs from 1963 when it started up to present date 2013, Enjoy! :)

 

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I think the BBC did a wonderful job with the 50th anniversary.

There the excellent special, which was the first time I really enjoyed doctor who again since Mr. Moffat took over as showrunner (Moffat basically always repeats himself). It was just "lovely".

But there are some other highly recommendable highlights too:

"The five(ish) doctors Reboot"

The trailer:


The doctors 5,6 and 7 try to get into the special but are not wanted by Moffat. A very self-ironic view on the show and neediness of actors. This includes many many actors of the 50 years.

An adventure in time and space

This is about the first doctor, William Hartnell. The movie also works as a view on the TV of the 1960s.



Watch those too! :D
 
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I'm a big fan of the franchise, Looking forward to seeing the movie > The Day of the Doctor (50th Anniversary Special) soon, love:heart: the series so much.

Here is the video of all the theme songs from 1963 when it started up to present date 2013, Enjoy! :)


haha thanks for that! I came on to the Dr. in the late '70s here in the US. We had just gotten cable TV where I lived in the middle of the US and I had read science fiction magazines about this great science fiction series from Britain that had been running for a long time. I immediately LOVED Tom Baker and his rendition of the Doctor...the Daleks...everything and later went forward and backwards in time to see many of the other doctors...cheesy special effects but who cared? it was always the story that counted....
 
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