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Just a little reminder of who you should vote tonight #Eurovision
The simple answer could be: because ABBA started building a very strong pop music tradition, and in the aftermath of ABBA we got music producers like Denniz Pop and Max Martin.
A more complex and structural answer could be about the communal music school, where every kid interested in playing some instrument and making music could go study during primary and secondary school; it wasn't obligatory so no kid who wasn't interested had to study music, it was totally voluntary.
And then Sweden is a land of ten thousand church choirs - I'm not kidding you, singing in choirs is a gigantic "sport", and there's possibly more people going to choir practice every week than people playing football regularly (not that the first necessarily excludes the second...).
I was right about Sweden. They won the jury. Norway won the televote and Netherlands won the show. Every year Sergey Lazarev participated we get a winner who didn't win either section. :thinking:
I wasn't shocked that UK is last. The song was totally boring and cliche. This is the fourth time the UK has finished last (2003, 2008, 2010, 2019). In the 21st century, the United Kingdom has only reached the top ten twice and finished lower than 20th 10 times out of the last 17 attempts.
Another voting shock came when Germany received ZERO points from the voting public, leaving them in third-to-last position. In contrast to last year's Micheal Schulte (4th place), the sisters song was really bad. Live show could also be the weakest among all countries.
On the other hand, it is interesting that everyone is talking about Germany and UK, but no one is talking about The Czech republic! A silly, annoying song made for a kid birthday party got 151 points from the jury but only 7 from the public!? :? But I think a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend voted for them...
Best interval act of all time? Maybe. Conchita, Måns and Mr. Danylko stole the show. btw, was the DJ really his mom? In my opinion, they should have been 3 times longer and just skip Madonna.
Thank you, you were great hosts Israel! The stage and effects and the whole production value was impressive! Although it's a bit sad to pay 1,8 million$ for someone singing out of tune...
I was right about Sweden. They won the jury. Norway won the televote and Netherlands won the show. Every year Sergey Lazarev participated we get a winner who didn't win either section. :thinking:
I wasn't shocked that UK is last. The song was totally boring and cliche. This is the fourth time the UK has finished last (2003, 2008, 2010, 2019). In the 21st century, the United Kingdom has only reached the top ten twice and finished lower than 20th 10 times out of the last 17 attempts.
Another voting shock came when Germany received ZERO points from the voting public, leaving them in third-to-last position. In contrast to last year's Micheal Schulte (4th place), the sisters song was really bad. Live show could also be the weakest among all countries.
On the other hand, it is interesting that everyone is talking about Germany and UK, but no one is talking about The Czech republic! A silly, annoying song made for a kid birthday party got 151 points from the jury but only 7 from the public!? :? But I think a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend voted for them...
Best interval act of all time? Maybe. Conchita, Måns and Mr. Danylko stole the show. btw, was the DJ really his mom? In my opinion, they should have been 3 times longer and just skip Madonna.
Thank you, you were great hosts Israel! The stage and effects and the whole production value was impressive! Although it's a bit sad to pay 1,8 million$ for someone singing out of tune...
I'm in complete agreement about the interval act: Conchita and Måns and their co-stars did a great job, it could easily have been much longer - skipping Madonna
I'm not the biggest Madonna fan, but I do like her. I saw her in 2009 (Sticky & Sweet Tour), when she promoted her 11th studio album Hard Candy (4 Minutes feat. Justin Timberlake). There were some slow moments, but overall it was a fantastic show.
The author and former editor-in-chief of Attitude magazine on how Madonna changed his life
"Madonna was a radical, brilliant pop icon who changed so many people’s lives. Mine included. I grew up in Bolton in the 1980s, at a time when no one wanted to say anything positive about gay people. If we were represented in the media, it was as disease-carrying sexual predators who couldn’t be trusted around children. The idea of gay role models didn’t even exist. And then along came Madonna.
I first became aware of her around the time Like a Virgin was released in 1984, and felt myself being drawn in, but I resisted. I’d been conditioned to be mistrustful of transgressive, rebellious women who expressed their sexuality. By the time the True Blue album came out in 1986 – I was 11 – I was starting to realise I was gay. And that made me sexually transgressive too.
Then came the Open Your Heart video. In it, Madonna played a stripper dancing in a venue for an audience that included a lesbian drag king and two gay sailors locked in an affectionate embrace. The thing about her that had been my point of contention suddenly became a point of connection. After that, I didn’t just enjoy Madonna’s work: she became like a spirit guide.
People forget the role Madonna played in opening up gay culture to the mainstream. She wasn’t gay herself, but from the beginning she talked about how gay people were part of her life: her gay mentor, her dance teacher, Christopher Flynn; the artists and photographers she hung around with like Keith Haring and Herb Ritts; the gay dancers she paraded around so proudly in the film In Bed With Madonna. You cannot imagine what it was like to witness her doing that when you were being mercilessly bullied about your sexuality at school, as I was. This was when George Michael, Freddie Mercury and the Pet Shop Boys didn’t dare to come out.
Nowadays, online, it’s easy to know that there are other people like you in the world. But in the 1980s, you existed in your own bubble. This was also the time of Aids emerging. The album Like a Prayer came with a copy of a handwritten note from Madonna – I remember so clearly opening it, and how tenderly it was worded, declaring that everyone with Aids deserved respect and compassion, “regardless of their sexual orientation”. Madonna was accused in TV interviews at the time of being irresponsible because of her support for gay culture – you can still see clips of this on YouTube. But she ripped into homophobic interviewers with such ferocity, like a lioness protecting her cubs. It had an incredible impact on me.
Before Madonna, it felt like all gay icons had been tragic figures. And yes, Madonna had endured great tragedy in her life – her mother died when she was five – but you never saw an ounce of fragility in her. Think of her in that Jean Paul Gaultier basque – it was like a suit of armour. She was all steely defiance and I wanted to channel this to get through the challenges life was throwing at me.
When people think about 1980s pop icons, they often think of those who’ve gone: Prince, Whitney, Michael Jackson. They often forget about Madonna, the only one that’s survived – and they continue to mock her, not just for being a sexually confident woman but for one who’s dared to get older and continue to produce work.
But I love how Madonna’s never wanted to be seen as a nostalgia artist and how in recent years she’s become even more politically outspoken. Her speech at the Billboard women in music awards in 2016; she called out the “blatant sexism and misogyny and constant bullying and relentless abuse” she’d experienced as a woman in the music industry. So many people have relied on Madonna’s music for emotional support in their lives and I’m so glad she’s still here, still expressing herself, absolutely on her own terms. Because if she hadn’t been doing that when I was younger, I’m not sure I’d be here now – and I certainly wouldn’t be the person I am today."
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I worked as a volunteer in the 80's with a group that took in pets of those that got to sick to take care of them and I remember how much Madonna meant to so many in the 80's with Aids, back when they were shunned by family and friends. I remember one guy named Gary who on his death bed requested to see his cat before he died and thankfully I was able to sneak his cat in the hospital the night he passed away holding his fur baby and listening to Like a Prayer, he passed happy. Madonna will always be a saint to me.
Hungary Pull Out Of Eurovision Because 'It's Too Gay'
Hungary will not participate in next year’s Eurovision song contest, amid speculation the decision was taken because the competition is “too gay” for the taste of the country’s far-right government and public media bosses.
A pro-government television host called Eurovision a “homosexual flotilla” and said Hungary not taking part would boost the country’s mental health. :?
I'm just wondering: why is Sweden, of all countries, one of the best at Eurovision (every year)? 
