JonnyFantastico
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I'm actually hoping you guys can help me out with this one. That's right; Jonny Fantastico, the one with all of the answers, needs some advice. After you're done laughing, read on.
So, I'm genuinely at a loss with a situation going on with a close friend of mine.
There's a girl I've known for almost half of my life. I consider her family more than anything and her siblings are pretty much my own as well. Her parents are just as close to me and her children are my heart, point blank. There is almost nothing I wouldn't do for them.
But I think I may have finally hit a wall with her and I'm stuck.
About five years ago, she began dating another guy I knew back in high school. Our crews didn't really intercept, but I did know him from my friends back then and what I knew then wasn't particularly good. We used to call him "Racist ______" (the blank is his name) and at first, I thought it was just a dumb joke that they made up (I didn't make up the nickname) because he was one of the only fully Caucasian people in our school.
Comes to find out that it wasn't, but more on that later.
The beginning of their relationship already was pretty fucked: she had just ended another relationship with the father of her oldest child (who I honestly love more than words) and had been spinning out since a serious relationship she had years prior. She's always had the habit of needing to be attached to someone because I believe she honestly doesn't know how to be alone, which is sad enough. In truth, I've sort of come to deal with this with her; she's my friend and I try not to judge her for that.
It would be too long to express every single point that's wrong with their relationship, so I'll use bullet points:
Now, they have since married (this past May) and are still living with her parents (yes, I know... and yes, all three kids live with them as well, including my friends' 2 younger sisters) and things have taken the most horrific of turns. Recently, my friend found out that
That's actually what this is about... yesterday, after months of denying it (mind you, they've only been married for three and this has been going on before that), it finally came to light that he was cheating on her with someone else. My friend called the girl and the girl told her that he admitted he had children, but not that he was married. Of course, this sent my friend into a tailspin. Her mother called me over to help out (she was there alone babysitting my friends' children and a couple of others) and her sister's friends were there as well, just in case things went out of control.
What happened was the most epic night of true fuckery I've ever seen.
At some point, they decided to take a walk (my friend and her douchebag husband) and during this walk, she decided to forgive him... until he joked around that the girl might be pregnant... which really sent my friend off in front of all of us.
To make a long story slightly shorter, after screaming it out in front of us (where he accused her of doing cocaine in front of her parents; something I KNOW she would never do and has never done), telling him to get out of her house (which she couldn't legally do considering he's on the lease) and that she wanted a divorce... *sighs* He kept begging to make it work and out of frustration, she decided to call the deacon that married them over to her place. He glanced over at me and I swear... the fucker was SMILING.
I wanted to stomp mud holes into his fucking chest. :bring it on:
OK, the deacon comes over, talks to them and after a couple of hours (where apparently, the deacon actually said she should forgive his misdeeds), they both went to bed. Together. In the same room.
Oh... and did I mention that when he found out that his wife knew about his girlfriend, he told his wife, "Because of you, I lost the woman of my dreams!" And not only that, but when he thought that she wouldn't forgive him; he had the BALLS to ask her to call the other girl and lie, saying that he wasn't married, so that he could stay with her! :angry:
WHAT?!
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! REALLY?!
OK... my question is: after last night, after knowing everything that he has done to her repeatedly and what he can get away with, I want to know... is there any way I can sort of not deal with this anymore? It's obvious that she doesn't want to let him go and it's so frustrating to constantly hear these complaints and know that she's priming herself for shit piles higher than the Empire State Building... even her own sister said that she lost respect for her and she didn't want to hear anymore of it.
As a friend, do I have the same right to do the same? Until this is over (if it ever is by this point), I feel like I have nothing more to add to the conversation of it all and anything else she tells me will just make me want to shake her for being so dumb.
This isn't love. This never was love...
So... what do I do? Can I just sort of tell her to deal with her own problems without making our friendship suffer or am I just fucked?
- Jonny Fantastico
So, I'm genuinely at a loss with a situation going on with a close friend of mine.
There's a girl I've known for almost half of my life. I consider her family more than anything and her siblings are pretty much my own as well. Her parents are just as close to me and her children are my heart, point blank. There is almost nothing I wouldn't do for them.
But I think I may have finally hit a wall with her and I'm stuck.
About five years ago, she began dating another guy I knew back in high school. Our crews didn't really intercept, but I did know him from my friends back then and what I knew then wasn't particularly good. We used to call him "Racist ______" (the blank is his name) and at first, I thought it was just a dumb joke that they made up (I didn't make up the nickname) because he was one of the only fully Caucasian people in our school.
Comes to find out that it wasn't, but more on that later.
The beginning of their relationship already was pretty fucked: she had just ended another relationship with the father of her oldest child (who I honestly love more than words) and had been spinning out since a serious relationship she had years prior. She's always had the habit of needing to be attached to someone because I believe she honestly doesn't know how to be alone, which is sad enough. In truth, I've sort of come to deal with this with her; she's my friend and I try not to judge her for that.
It would be too long to express every single point that's wrong with their relationship, so I'll use bullet points:
- one time, while her oldest son was playing with some "Little People" dolls; which are multi-cultural, he made a comment that he would never let his "white daughter play with a black doll". I wasn't there when he made his comment, but it was relayed to me. It's funny considering he has Mexican and Asian in his blood and she is Puerto Rican... and his favorite rapper is The Notorious B.I.G. :no:
- he comes from quite a bad background: his mother left them (he, his brother and his father) when they were young and was never the best maternal figure. She is back in their lives now, but the relationship is not the best... and he holds this close to him always.
- he has a huge habit of lying and holding secrets from her, which she always finds out about.
- she has given birth to two more children since then with him. He is not the best father: he leaves everything to her while she's trying to do online college studies for her master's degree in psychology (there's some irony there, I assure you) and when he is home from work, he'd rather watch a baseball game then to help her out. One time, his son (the second child) was battling a stomach virus and rather than take care of him, he lifted him up by the shirt in order to keep him from vomiting on his clothes and called out for my friend... so he wouldn't miss any of his Yankee game. :rolling eyes:
- he cheated on her once before. He says that nothing happened, but all he did was want to see if he still had "it". ~X(
- he has called her every name in the book other than her birth name... in front of her parents AND her children, is worried about his money before his marriage... I could go on and on, but it still wouldn't hit the point of what I need help to, so....
Now, they have since married (this past May) and are still living with her parents (yes, I know... and yes, all three kids live with them as well, including my friends' 2 younger sisters) and things have taken the most horrific of turns. Recently, my friend found out that
- he had another cell phone that she didn't know about
- had another bank account that she didn't know about
- was cheating on her with another woman...
That's actually what this is about... yesterday, after months of denying it (mind you, they've only been married for three and this has been going on before that), it finally came to light that he was cheating on her with someone else. My friend called the girl and the girl told her that he admitted he had children, but not that he was married. Of course, this sent my friend into a tailspin. Her mother called me over to help out (she was there alone babysitting my friends' children and a couple of others) and her sister's friends were there as well, just in case things went out of control.
What happened was the most epic night of true fuckery I've ever seen.
At some point, they decided to take a walk (my friend and her douchebag husband) and during this walk, she decided to forgive him... until he joked around that the girl might be pregnant... which really sent my friend off in front of all of us.
To make a long story slightly shorter, after screaming it out in front of us (where he accused her of doing cocaine in front of her parents; something I KNOW she would never do and has never done), telling him to get out of her house (which she couldn't legally do considering he's on the lease) and that she wanted a divorce... *sighs* He kept begging to make it work and out of frustration, she decided to call the deacon that married them over to her place. He glanced over at me and I swear... the fucker was SMILING.
I wanted to stomp mud holes into his fucking chest. :bring it on:
OK, the deacon comes over, talks to them and after a couple of hours (where apparently, the deacon actually said she should forgive his misdeeds), they both went to bed. Together. In the same room.
Oh... and did I mention that when he found out that his wife knew about his girlfriend, he told his wife, "Because of you, I lost the woman of my dreams!" And not only that, but when he thought that she wouldn't forgive him; he had the BALLS to ask her to call the other girl and lie, saying that he wasn't married, so that he could stay with her! :angry:
WHAT?!
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! REALLY?!
OK... my question is: after last night, after knowing everything that he has done to her repeatedly and what he can get away with, I want to know... is there any way I can sort of not deal with this anymore? It's obvious that she doesn't want to let him go and it's so frustrating to constantly hear these complaints and know that she's priming herself for shit piles higher than the Empire State Building... even her own sister said that she lost respect for her and she didn't want to hear anymore of it.
As a friend, do I have the same right to do the same? Until this is over (if it ever is by this point), I feel like I have nothing more to add to the conversation of it all and anything else she tells me will just make me want to shake her for being so dumb.
This isn't love. This never was love...
So... what do I do? Can I just sort of tell her to deal with her own problems without making our friendship suffer or am I just fucked?
- Jonny Fantastico