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should i do it?

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hi
im gay , top
there is sth i wanna ask
there is a guy that i know for a while . i like ti fuck him without condom and he is ok with that . its his first time getting fucked without condom . i wanna know is it risky that i do it ? i donts mean HIV or other STDS , i mean other than this for example bacteria of ass can be a harmful to my cock or its skin ?
 

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hi
im gay , top
there is sth i wanna ask
there is a guy that i know for a while . i like ti fuck him without condom and he is ok with that . its his first time getting fucked without condom . i wanna know is it risky that i do it ? i donts mean HIV or other STDS , i mean other than this for example bacteria of ass can be a harmful to my cock or its skin ?

Your question: should I do it? ----- My answer: NO I think it's better for you and better as well for the other guy. But finally it's a decision of both of yours!
 

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The human body is home to a trillion bacteria, nearly all of them harmless, some of them good for us. The risk from these organisms, which everyone has, is not much to worry about.
Worry instead about HIV. With modern treatment it rarely kills today but getting it is still bad news. Bareback is popular now with a generation lucky enough never to have lived through the horrors of the late eighties. You and your partner must choose yourselves how much risk you are ready to accept. Just as long as you worry about that which is a threat and not about that which is not a threat.
 

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I would advise against it. If you do decide to, however, at least make sure that you are taking PrEP (pre-exposure prophylaxis). If you don't know what that is, it's Truvada or Descovy(another form of Truvada. You will need a Rx from your doctor. Don't forget, though, that it will not protect you from other STD's, only HIV. And you would need to take it for at least a few days before and after your sexual contact. Plus, if you don't have insurance coverage, it's very, very expensive. I know, because I take it for my HIV.
 

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One thing that I forgot to mention regarding avoiding UTI from unprptected anal intercourse is to urinate immediately after climax. This will force out bacteria that might have gotten inside the tip of the urethra. It IS NOT a guarantee against a UTI (urinary tract infection), but will lessen the chance of getting one. I would still advise against doing it, but ultimately, it is you who has to make that decision.

Btw, your partner should not be okay with that. You need to inform him of the risks involved and the things that he can do to protect himself. After all, he is the one with the greatest risk in this scenario.
 
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There are various ways to protect yourself (PrEP, condoms). Both are about 98% effective when all directions are followed. But in real life, people are inconsistent - they use condoms incorrectly, and they sometimes forget to take their pills. So the real life stat is more like 90% in actual observed studies with actual people.

But you are asking about the alternative of completely unprotected sex. And I have to ask - why? What is the benefit you want to gain from not having any protection? Because whatever that benefit is, you have to weigh it against the risk of giving or receiving an incurable, life-altering, potentially deadly disease. That is the bottom line.

I realize that can seem abstract today - the ravages of the disease aren't in-your-face the way it was in the 80s and 90s. People no longer have to go to a funeral a week. The obituaries in the gay press are no longer 20 pages long.

But HIV itself hasn't changed and the way its transmitted hasn't changed and once you have it there is still no way back to "normal". You will have to manage it the rest of your life, and lord help you if you lose your insurance or can't pay the premiums or co-pays for your meds.

I run projects for a living and one of the things we do all the time is evaluate risks. There are two things that identify a risk:
  1. How likely will it happen?
  2. How destructive will the consequences be if it does happen.

A fire is something that is rather common, so it is a risk we would plan for. An earthquake is uncommon, but because it could potentially destroy all the infrastructure, the consequences are so great that we would be wise to make a plan to recover if it occurs.

HIV infection is, unfortunately, both very common in gay men and irreversibly destructive - potentially fatal. That makes it a high risk that you want to prevent from happening if at all possible.

You might say, "But I'm just one person and this is just one fun night of sex. It doesn't matter that much."

But, you see, it's always just one fun night of sex. For so many people that have been infected (people have talked about it here on GH) they dropped their guard just for one special person, or just for a weekend, or even for their first sexual experience - and that's all it took.

One last thought - just from a human behavior perspective it is very hard to make these decisions on a case by case basis. Human sexual passion just isn't conducive to that kind of thoughtful assessment. In the heat of the moment, no one wants to deal with condoms, or turn down an encounter because you haven't filled your prescription. You have to make these decisions in advance, rather than improvise on the spot.

The safest way through this is to take complete responsibility for what happens with your body. You take PrEP faithfully, or you only have sex with condoms. You don't rely on other people taking their medications, or getting tested, or knowing their HIV status. You simply operate from the assumption that they have HIV and don't know it yet and go from there.

I realize this is an overly long answer and good for you if you made it to the end. Just know that this is coming from someone who has had to say goodbye to a lot of wonderful people and doesn't want another generation to have to go through that.
 

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As it turns out this is the greeting I have chosen for this weekend.... it is also my recommendation to you ;)

 
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There are various ways to protect yourself (PrEP, condoms). Both are about 98% effective when all directions are followed. But in real life, people are inconsistent - they use condoms incorrectly, and they sometimes forget to take their pills. So the real life stat is more like 90% in actual observed studies with actual people.

But you are asking about the alternative of completely unprotected sex. And I have to ask - why? What is the benefit you want to gain from not having any protection? Because whatever that benefit is, you have to weigh it against the risk of giving or receiving an incurable, life-altering, potentially deadly disease. That is the bottom line.

I realize that can seem abstract today - the ravages of the disease aren't in-your-face the way it was in the 80s and 90s. People no longer have to go to a funeral a week. The obituaries in the gay press are no longer 20 pages long.

But HIV itself hasn't changed and the way its transmitted hasn't changed and once you have it there is still no way back to "normal". You will have to manage it the rest of your life, and lord help you if you lose your insurance or can't pay the premiums or co-pays for your meds.

I run projects for a living and one of the things we do all the time is evaluate risks. There are two things that identify a risk:
  1. How likely will it happen?
  2. How destructive will the consequences be if it does happen.

A fire is something that is rather common, so it is a risk we would plan for. An earthquake is uncommon, but because it could potentially destroy all the infrastructure, the consequences are so great that we would be wise to make a plan to recover if it occurs.

HIV infection is, unfortunately, both very common in gay men and irreversibly destructive - potentially fatal. That makes it a high risk that you want to prevent from happening if at all possible.

You might say, "But I'm just one person and this is just one fun night of sex. It doesn't matter that much."

But, you see, it's always just one fun night of sex. For so many people that have been infected (people have talked about it here on GH) they dropped their guard just for one special person, or just for a weekend, or even for their first sexual experience - and that's all it took.

One last thought - just from a human behavior perspective it is very hard to make these decisions on a case by case basis. Human sexual passion just isn't conducive to that kind of thoughtful assessment. In the heat of the moment, no one wants to deal with condoms, or turn down an encounter because you haven't filled your prescription. You have to make these decisions in advance, rather than improvise on the spot.

The safest way through this is to take complete responsibility for what happens with your body. You take PrEP faithfully, or you only have sex with condoms. You don't rely on other people taking their medications, or getting tested, or knowing their HIV status. You simply operate from the assumption that they have HIV and don't know it yet and go from there.

I realize this is an overly long answer and good for you if you made it to the end. Just know that this is coming from someone who has had to say goodbye to a lot of wonderful people and doesn't want another generation to have to go through that.

The best what ever I've read in this connection! Thank you for this text! :thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up:
 

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i am a bottom for most part of my life--and been in threesomes and couple orgy type things and gangbangs--never wore a condom all been bare--i am 50 now and still go bare--how i been this lucky dont know--as for bacteria--in your ass-- or his--did you know there is more bactiera/germs in your mouth more dangerous than that of a asshole--studies show a human bite mark is more dangerous than taking a bath in a tub of piss and shit----

if you wanna do it bare--alot of it is make sure you know both are safe--as for barebacking if it so dangerous why is porn doing more babrbacking scenes than protected--thats because even they prefer bare-not to mention if get urinary track infection from it--get some antibiotics--just dont say how you think you got the infection because alot of things cause it--from soda/pop tea coffee and so on
 
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