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straight friend..hmmm

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anyone ever have a straight friend that you fantasizie about alot then realize the odds of anything happening will never be--and then one day he starts acting flirty with you and then days go by until he crosses the line you swore youd never cross with him as you respected his straight orientation and he respects yours being gay..


got a reason for this question i will post about soon as possible
 

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Oh yeah. First of all, the 100% straight boy is a myth. Given the right circumstances, alcohol, and horniness labels tend to disappear.

But it sounds like the main thing here is that this is a good friend and you are balancing the sexiness with the friendship.

Here is my advice: talk about it. If you both can lay your cards on the table and talk about what you want, then I think you can go forward feeling confident that you have the tools in place to deal with any weirdness that comes up.

If you can't talk about it, then you really don't know what you are getting yourself into and it's a bad sign that he doesn't know how to handle sex and friendship in an honest way. Danger, Will Robinson! This could blow up in your face.

But, the bottom line is that you are there and you can read the situation a lot better then we can here. So tell us, what do you think about the possibilities here. Or, better yet, what has already happened?

(Details! We want details. Don't leave anything out. :pP)
 

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Depends on how much you like him. It might be hard to be with someone you can't have the way you want, if you have a crush on him. If its just sex stuff you want, and his cool with that, I'd go for it. BUT it may make things wierd, he might become to regret and thus whitdraw from you, so how good of a friend he is to you?

Talking will clear things. Or laying your cards might frighten him, talking might end things... These "straight" friends are often tricky and hard to predict. Actually, according to my past experiences, I'd forget about the whole thing and move on:)
 

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how close of friends are we--we known each other for a good 20 years-- andhe has been with several girlfriends or girls for sex over the years--its just he had done few things over last few weeks that can be called gay andwhen he goes so far he ups and quits like he is just kidding around but he has rubbed himself against me and couple times ago he let me see it hard and his balls and last time we goofed around to point he tied me to a chair -my hands and feet where he begins giving me s lap dance -- he felt my hard on and rubbed his ass against it a lot--naked and with clothes on--- he unbuttoned my shorts pulled out my cock stroked it few times and felt the precum oozing out of my dick--
we talked about things other day I told him how I felt about him years ago and told him I still feel the same way-- and he then tells me he has had feelings he cant understand but when he is with me he says those feelings become a reality and it scares him..



afraid it will hurt our friendship--I told him if he wanted to proceed things further that nothing he did will ever kill our friendship and that I wasn't saying it to get him to go all the way that I want him to do what he feels like he safe to do-- so we had a long talk about it I just don't know what he plans on doing from there
 

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Well done you! It sounds like he is game, and you clearly can verbalize what you want and what you feel, as well as being aware of his needs.

The only missing piece is what is he saying? Can he talk about what he wants and feels? What does he say when you lay out your ideas?

If he can navigate this verbally, I'd say you are both good to go.
 

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If one of my friend crushes when I was younger would have done smth like that, I would have gone with it. You are very strong and vise guy for keeping your head. But if situation like that came now with someone I've been friends with for over ten years, I would proceed just like you have.

I actually have few friends I have had crush on, and it was devastating just to try to be friends. But now I have no broplems with it. I wouldn't do stuff with them even if they would want, the crush has gone. And they are my rock when things go down and boyfriends go. Good friends are priceless.
 

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well since my last post--he shows up at my work place with lunch which automatically gets the guys at work going goofy because of our age differences--even though we've known each other for 20 years he was only6 when I started babysitting him and now he is 26 maybe 27 now I am 45 --

I know some guys say ok this isn't a conversation want to be in but nothing happened like that when he was growing up he was a boy I watched for neighbor while she was at work and I considered him a little brother and he consider me his big brother--

anyhow he brings lunch we sit outside on tailgate of my truck where we talked about the idea of him going that far and I told him if he wanted to we could if not then that's ok too--I just don't want him thinking it will hurt our friendship and he says I don't think it will either then says in fact it could help our friendship turn to more if things go well--I said that's up to him

he gets up the bell to go back to work dings and he leans over kisses me on the lips and what a hell of a kiss-- and whispers in my ear that give them something to talk about-- then leans back says Friday night your place I said sure--ill fix dinner he says lasagna I said sure--he has always loved my lasagna so that's ok with me--I got off work went to store bought the stuff for it and that way all day Friday I can clean house cook dinner and see if he shows up--


I do want to be with this fellow not because he is younger and very sexy n hot--blond short hair blue eyes and a bubble butt that makes my mouth water hehe

its just I am gay he knows it and he is right now having these feelings but I think he has alwys had them but finally giving in to those urges-- and some of the things over the years he would do would be so funny but always made me wonder--one day he was like 19 we were wrestling around and he gets me on my stomach sits on my back pulls back on my head he says say uncle I said uncle--fuck he was about to break my neck hehe-- the then grabs my hair pulls it back and begins rubbing his crotch on my ass in a fucking motion telling me see there I just made you my bitch and giggled--

its things like that he has done that makes him a blast to be around with as a friend--
 

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US sex columnist Dan Savage often quotes the "Boy Scout Rule": Always leave them in better condition than you found them.

I think that applies here and that seems to be exactly the direction you are heading. A good guy will make sure that even if the relationship is brief or doesn't get off the ground, the other person (especially if they are younger or more vulnerable) always comes away better off. It sounds like your friend will at the very least walk away knowing more about his own sexuality as well as how to talk about sex and friendship and other hard stuff without being afraid of rejection.

You have already given him a lot. You deserve to be happy too. :heart:
 

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Actually, according to my past experiences, I'd forget about the whole thing and move on:)

^^^^^^^^Hell to the yes. :duh:

Your story is full of red flags about this guy. Instead of putting your cards on the table with him, put them on the table with us. More than anything else, this smells of "he's young and hot and I want him" and not much blood spared from your cock going up to your brain. Fair enough, nothing wrong with that, we all get that way about cuties we've known a long time.

But don't rationalize a false concept of him being naive and curious and needing to explore and blah blah blah, bullshit bullshit bullshit. A guy who ties you up, gives you a lapdance, then scampers away with a wide eyed "oh, did I just do that?" routine knows EXACTLY what he's doing. He's bored, between girlfriends, and suddenly decided it would be entertaining to get you all riled up. Well and good if you want to play along, but do it with your eyes wide open. A bi-curious guy sincerely looking to explore his sexuality doesn't approach you behaving like a pole dancer: he would be much more low key. This kid is fully aware he's yanking your chain, he's playing you: there's nothing innocent about it.

Personally, anyone that I ever babysat as a child would be an automatic resounding NO under almost any circumstances. If I had left town 20 years before, and he followed me or ran into me in some distant city, then maybe. But in your hometown? An area where gays actually own trucks instead of Prius hybrids? With his family within walking distance? Jeez, you must really enjoy risky adventures. He's not gay, he's not bi, he's momentarily amusing himself by giving you blue balls. He may very well want to take it all the way, just for the hell of it, to see what happens. But afterward could be messy.

I've seen this type of thing play out several times. Its always awkward at the very least, and potentially dangerous. The "straight but playful" psyche is very tricky sometimes: these guys will pursue you as if you were a hot woman, for much the same reason: to see if they can conquer you. They enjoy the game immensely, but once they've had you, it can easily blow up in your face. They're all "my sexuality is fluid and experimental" until you've swallowed their cum, then they lose their shit because the game is over and there's no way to pretend it didn't happen. Its weird enough in a big city, I wouldn't want to navigate such traps in a town where everyone knows each others business.

Of course, its entirely possible this is in fact the hot fantasy you're hoping it is, with no strings or consequences, and you might end up happily "dating" him for a while. If thats what you want, I hope its true. But for your own protection, stay very aware of any changes in his attitude. Be prepared to drop the whole thing immediately as if it never started, if you see any signs he's gone further than he intended and wants a quick graceful exit.
 

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the thing is he is younger and kind of sexy but that's not reason I am acttracted to him--I am not that shallow--its just over the years he and I have become close--friendship very strong-- and I have told him with the girls he dated and broke up with that these girls just so see him for who he is--I even told him I wished I was a girl and know him the way I do-- because he has made me laugh and been there to talk with me about anything everything and I been there for him--

he even said he wished I was a girl that knew him the way I do then he'd be happy with me--


we have talked last couple days on phone and he confided couple things to me about feelings he has had over the years and his curiousity has had him do couple things (wont say here what they were) and tells me if anyone he wanted to go that far with would be me because he trusts me and knows I wouldn't hurt him. and this isn't something we just sat down one night watching porn and jacking off---which I have watched straight porn with him and we have jacked off in front of each other but never looked at each others cocks it was something I promised him I wont look and he was like cool and we have jacked off in front of each other even though ive seen head of his dick and seen it shoot hard huge loads because when he goes to cum he moans and closes his eyes--

he will be here around 10 tonight he gets off work at 8 then has go home get clothes and stuff I told him dinner be ready-- so I am not totally convinced he will go through with it--but he will definitely show up for dinner he loves my lasagna--


a lot of guys do it with younger because its just sexual with them but with me its more than that as age is just a number--I was with older when I was younger and it was me that kind of made first move and then other events where I cant say here--or wont butits a past I don't regret and never will
 

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I do have this colleague I like. But since I don't wanna believe in (or wait for) miracles, I just fantasize about him. Man, he is like a giant which is so hot for me. He isn't extremely muscled but he's much taller than me, has long arms, big hands and hot strong legs. I often think about us being alone and me fucking him. He's got an ass you wouldn't believe... a beautiful round big butt. When he wears tight jeans, I am so close to loosing it. I feel like I'm drooling wanting to lick that ass. :blushing:
:pP :pP
 
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you guys read earlier posts of whats going on and now the night came where he shows up like said he would wearing pair of shorts and baggy shirt-and he comes in we sat in living room for while watched a movie and he keeps on staring at me as we did-- and asked him what was on his mind he smiled a little and says you know whats on my mind I said ok-and..

he started talking about how he was with a girl early in the week and he did the usual as he always does--she suckd his dick he licked her cunt and he fucked her--I said sounds like a good time.. he said it was but theres things I want to do that these girls wont do---I said oh really --he was like yeah--I moved over to him flipped my leg onto other side of him where he was sitting between my legs and began rubbing his shoulders and back--( I had done this few times over the years--doesn't make a guy str8 or gay to let a guy rub his back and shoulders-) -- he was quiet as I rubbed his back and then tell me about these things you want to do and maybe find a girl that will do it--he then says or a guy--I said sure or a guy

he starts telling me his first time sexual encounter was when he was a certain age ( wont say) andit was fun and then he saw on porn where these girls suck dicks and swallow the guys load-he tells me no girl he been with ever has--swallowed his load that is--he usually either had to tell the girl he is about to cum or stop her sucking him and jack off rest of the way I said ok so you want to bust a nut in someones mouth he says yeah I said ok what else-- he then tells me he and a couple girls he been with watched porn in his room and in these porn these women are sucking the guys cock and then go on down the guy opens his legs more exposing his asshole and she licks it fingers it a while and the guy is enjoying it--I giggled and said hell yeah
he asks why would a guy like that so much and I told him why--and he was well two girls he wanted to do that to him called him a freak and a perv and left him alone--so I said so these feelings you have you think a gay man will do it and he was like kind of--I was like well not all guys like to swallow not all guys like to rim or be rimmed so it happens to us gay men as well

he brings up what did last time we were together where hehad me tied up and took out my dick I said yeah--he tells me how excited he got- and it kind of scared him..i told him no reason to be scared--its just feelings you had at the moment and it passed--he said yeah but the thing is I wanted to suck it--I told him I wouldn't have stopped him then I giggled and said hell I couldn't have if wanted to you had me tied up he giggled and turns around looks at me in my eyes and says to me without blinking or stutter in his voice--I still want to suck it is that bad--

I said no that theres a lot of guys out there figure out feelings they have for another guy are there and don't know what to do about it--a lot of guys screw girls for years then start screwing guys as well --its called being bisexual--he stands up turns on around gets on his knees and reached his hand out touches my crotch and says to me are you sure this wont hurt our friendship--I said no we go as far as you want we stop and act like never happened and be friends--and our friendship is strong one as ive told you how I felt about you over the years and you still come over so we go as far as want and stop

I was getting hard with his hand rubbing my crotch--I was wearing shorts with the string around waist so easy to slide off if things did go that far..he put his hands on each side of my shorts and began pulling them off I assisted until they were on the floor--he then takes my cock in his hand he was like wow--I said what--he says its hard as a brick I said yeah it loving your hand right now--he tells me he didn't know if he can take it all I said just take what you want don't force yourself and it be more enjoyable for you-- he said ok.. and took head in his mouth it was so wet and warm and my cock curves downward a little so its easy to deepthroat as to most guys curve upwards--so he sucking on my cock and it feels good and I let him do it long as he wanted--
he stops after a while and says to me this isn't bad as he thought it would be i said so you like it he says yes-- then asked him if he still feels like our friendship is safe he says yes I said cool I agree with you-- and he sucked on it more and I asked if he wanted to try swallowing then whole dick he was like kind of but didn't know how-I told him you see in porn guys cocks are short fat long skinny some guys curve upwards and others downward--he was like yeah--I said well mines downward---so it makes it easy to deepthroat in this position just releax and make sure my cock is wet from head to the base so it slides easier--I am around 8 inches but nott o fat so it be easy to do he tried few times I can feel him tighten up and I said relax-you need to trust my cock isn't going to do anything you don't want it to--andlet it go down--he stops and says the guys in the porn grabs the girls head and shve it down their throats I said thisnt isn't a porn you aren't a girl and I wouldn't do you that way

few more times sucking on it I felt the head of my cock go down his throat some and he pulls back and says wow I said I agree that felt awesome he was like really as if ask me-I said fuck yeah it was great--he sucked me some more and more he did it the more wetter my cock was getting and it slide down his throat better each time he went down all the way--.. he stops and began stroking it and playing with my balls with his hands and says this is actually better than I thought it would be-- I said well don't be mad but so do I--


so he is stroking my cock and balls with his hands and I said want me to suck your cock now-- he didn't say a word--I told him don't worry if its small or skinny or whatever it is I want to suck it--he says well its not that big--I said well to tell the truth I seen it and told him the times we jerked off in front of each other and he close his eyes when he went to cum I would look at his cock and see it shoot the load then lean back and act like I didn't see it-- he was like really--

I said yeah and that and the times over the years taking showers when staying the night I prob seen more than I should ---he was like so you really do like me that much I said that much and then some--I leaned up and had him stand up in front of me--he was extremely hard it showed in his shorts and he puts his hands on top of his head looks up at the ceiling as if he was ashamed of what I was about to see--I slid his shorts and underwear down and he wasn't that big in length a solid5 maybe little more but it was thick and oozing precum a lot more than my cock was so I knew then he was turned on.
I took it in my mouth sucking on it good n hard and he started moaning I pulled it out of my mouth and stuck his balls in my mouth his body flinched a little and says damn that's great---I said to him so you wanna lay on the floor andlet me suck it or wanna go to the bedroom and do it--he says lets see how things go from here--then maybe go there--so I had him get on the floor and I got between his legs sucking his dick and balls and running my tongue from back of his balls to his hole and back up and the more I did that the more his legs went up as if to say go ahead--and I did---I got up on my knees lifted his legs up and over exposing his hole and it looked so night and tight and I looked in his eyes as I ran my tongue over it--his eyes opened wider-- and I kept licking it --I stopped and told him to truly do this right I need use a finger he says yeah I know so I wet a finger and slid in his hole a little and then wet it again as he was so tight I needed to work it in-- I reached one hand around and stroked his dick few times making a lot of precum ooze out--took it and fingered it into his hole then I licked it up his hole was so sweet even before that it was sweet n yummy-- I let his legs down told him roll over -as he did I grabbed pillows off the couch where I put them under his midsection where I can dive into his hole good and the more I rimmed him the more he got into it--id finger it then rim it getting my tongue further into it and I finger fucked his hole slid my finger in all the way and moved it around and the more I did that the more he puled his legs up to point he was on his knees and face still on floor--I jokingly said to him nowusually when a guy gets his ass rimmed its getting prepped to be fucked--he says I know-I said what he then says he knew it because the girls in these movies would put on a strap-on and fuck the guy--I said oh so now you want me to fuck you--he says we can try it but be easy I said ill be easy and if say stop ill stop he says ok--so I rimmed him more grabbed some lube asked if wanted a condom on my cock or bare he says bare--I wet tip of my dick with lube and rubbed the shaft as well then fingered his hole with it--he was like wow that's slick I said yeah -told him what it was and costed and he says its pretty slick-I said yes it it--I got up put head of my dick at his hole and slid it in slowly-- he was so freakin tight I had to give it a push and the head of my cock penetrated his hole he pulled forward and says oh fuck that hurt--I said sorry--and then told him first time or two is gonna hurt he says yeah that he had fucked a girl or two their first time and they said it hurt a lot--so what do we do now I asked -- he says use more lube and try it again I used more lube--put a squirt of it on his hole and a lot on my cock and then went for it again this time he moaned and kept saying oh oh oh I asked if should quit he says no keep going-says it hurt but felt good same time I said yes it does-- so I kept going in until I was all the way in his ass so tight it felt like cutting circulation off my cock--
I slowly pulled out and in few times working in the lube and told him I was all way in he says man you feel like a giant cucumber is inside me I said well youre extremely tight is why--and began pumping a little quicker I pulled out halfway grabbed his hips and slid it ib quicker he moaned so loud I said oh sorry I didn't mean to do that--he says am I bleeding I looked and said nope he was like damn it should be--I asked if needed more lube he says no there was plenty and I said let me go little faster see if we can work it out he says ok--I fucked him little harder and harder and said I'm about to cum.. I pulled out let it shoot up his back and some went in his hair and he was like dude that one hell of a shot--I slid it back into him and said that's because that hole was awesome..

I pulled out laid on floor next to him he lays on down and rolls over onto his back and says that was great I said to him he was great--and then asked about our friendship he was like its good very good--I said ok you said a girl wouldn't rim your hole I did that so now do you want to fuck me or do you want me suck you off or both---he says suck me off I don't think it will be long until I shoot--I sat up leaned over sucked his dick which had precum majorly gushing out of it and sucked it few minutes--then I got up put my knees at his head and his knees at mine where I took his dick in my mouth again and began sucking it-- the grabbed him rolled him on top of my where in 69 and he got on his knees where I can suck it he began pumping and I began rubbing his stomach and his nipples and he just took control of his cock in mymouth --time to time id reach my hands around his waist shoving his dick all way in mymouth and into my through--he was like oh fuck and keeps pumping and he got faster fucking my mouth and throat and he was like I'm gonna cum--he went to pull back I guess as if to pull out shoot it elsewhere--I grabbed him around waist as I had few times to swallow his dick and as I shoved it down my throat he begins moaning and his cock throbbing so hard and I felt him cumming shooting down my throat--I let him go and he pumped few more times and pulled out and sits down on his legs and looks down into my eyes and says that's awesome-- and I said yes it was--he gets up a little I see cum still oozing a little and he sees it and leans over says lick it so I did-- and stroked it few times milking it
he says to me then now I wanna fuck you---I said go for it--he lubed it up and I laid there on my baack he lifts my legs and I held them back exposing my hole--where he slides his dick in and begins pumping it--and this is where he made this night the perfect night--he may not been huge but what he had he knew how to work it and was a very assertvie fuckhe fucked me legs up on my side and final position on my stomach where he wrapped his arms under my shoulders and held my shoulders as he drove his dick in pulling on my shoulders every time he went in I moaned and told him yeah fuck my ass-- and he got harder and he was fucking me like fast like a rabbit and whispers can he cum inside me I said sure and he shoves in all the way lets it go--he shot hard and his cock throbbed hard as it did in my throat-- then began pumping again I didn't stop him ell if he wanted to go more I will let him--

he loved the position we were in he pulled on my shoulders as he rammed it inmany times and pulled my legs forward a little raising my ass up a little where it opened my ass a little more he felt it and kept going-- he stops and there he goes again shooting another load inside me-- and he says another thing he has always wanted to do is fuck until he was to tired to fuck anymore but girls usually think its over when cum once--I said if you wanna fuck me for hours you can he was like really I said sure thing your cock feels great and that he was a great fuck
he fucked me again and came inside me again and says you know what--my hole is sore but I kind of want your dick inside me again--I said ok - we can do that--we swapped places and I lubed my dick up and slid it in and he was like ouch really sore I asked if I should stop he said nokeep going in and I did and I began fucking him told him the soreness will go away once use to it again and he says its feeling better and then I fucked him harder this time time to time putting my hands on his sholder pulling back on them as I pushed my cock in far as it can go--and kept going and he says to me whats the most you ever came inside a guy I said three times but I was usually the one getting fucked he says why your cock feels good inside and I was like thanks so did his--
so I fucked him shooting my load inside him two times and we rested for few --I was laying on my stomach resting he hops on my back lets his cock run along my asscrack lets the head find the hole and slams it in and says this is awesome where he screws me and I told him when he goes to cum this time I want it on my face so he fucks me pulls out I roll over onto my back he scoots up straddles my chest with his knees on each side and strokes it shoots it all over my face and then stuck it in my mouth and pumps few times-- cum still oozing out of it--

he laid on the floor and rested and finally his dic was going down and he says his dick is drained for now I giggled and said is your dick drained or you tired he quickly says both--he says he didn't realize a guy can be so energetic and active during sex like that--I said well women can be that way to--he says well no women he knows are and glad he showed up tonight as he almost talked himself out of it-- I said I was glad his didn't talk himself out of it-- that in fact if wanted to show up and do it again or not was up to him that I would never say no to him..

we got up took a shower together andi washed his ass good he washed mine and he says wowi said what --he says he never thought hed be in shower with another guy like this--I asked him how did it feel he thought for a second and says it feels good actually----we got in bed together still naked where we watched a movie and fell asleep--

the next day came along--he was talking about how sore his hole was and he had to shit first thing i giggled and asked if he needed some ice for it he says no --and walks back into the bathroom where he sits on toilet again I am watching him as he shits and his face was like in pain and I asked him if I did something now he regrets --he says no--trust me you can fuck me again right now if wanted--I said well wait few days and lets see --and I got out of bed still naked as he was too--walked into bathroom and he saw my cock a swinging and says he didn't realize that would be a good feeling I said what he said your cock in my ass--

I said well sounds like last night lifted a lot off yur shoulders and your mind and he says giggling and a few loads off my balls-- I said and mine to-- I said to him if ever want to do it again or anything else wanna try let me know that I will do anything to satisfy you he was like really I said really--he then says well he seen videos where guys get tied up and the women whip and spank them--I said hmmmm to myself and said we can do that--


since then we talk and hang out like it didn't happen but then in some ways we touch each other and he kisses me on lips all time even frnch kissed few times--and says that he can see us together --I say to him so youre giving up women--he says why not they wont do anything to please a guy--..we talked and I told him theres more to it than sex and he proves it to me al time brings me lunch to work and I got home other night he had washed my laundry cleaned the house and had me couple burgers fried for dinner- so I think things are fine with our friendship and then some
 
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