The woman who forgive the Nazis

[Ioanna]

The horror of Auschwitz surviving and then forgiving a camp guard because you think it is the only way to improve the world. Eva Kor did, but her forgiveness is not shared by all survivors.

min. 26
The trial of the three ninety-year-old Oscar Groning Nazi accountant and complicit in the deaths of thousands of people.
What i seized last week was an excerpt from a doentary which i like here to share the link with you.
The fragment which i mean only begins at minute 26 where Eva Kor (filmed in secret) has a conversation with one of her "torturers". I recommend to view the full doentary (about 29min) to understand it completely or to have some knowledge of the Nazi past.
Unfortunately for those who do not know the language, it is partly in Dutch spoken all the rest is in English.
I also understand the reactions of the witnesses and survivors who do not agree with Mrs Kor but personally I felt something warm in me by the power of forgiveness of that woman.
Maybe you'll find me someone too emotional but i've been thinking for some time about this track and i decided to publish it here to know your opinion ... i think it is still topical today.

http://www.nullrefer.com/?http://deredactie.be/permalink/2.42930?video=1.2570310

 

[name_1]

A fascinating video. I think this train of thought questions the current method of balancing an injustice by punishing the originator of that injustice.

Sometimes, it does feel like what you mentioned, @Ioanna, forgiving is the way one improves the world.

 

[Shelter]

Thank you Ioanna for sharing this video. I've followed the trial of Oskar Gröning in our papers and TV.
I'm overcome by emotions when I heard this brave woman. She want's to forgive to make the world better and her own life! This is a great gesture of a victim who didn't want to be a victim anymore.
But I'll understand as well the other persons who cannot forgive. And I believe that I would be one of them. Here you see a very old man and you will have compassion with him. But he was a young man as well and he has known where he was and what his comrades were doing. The court couldn't prove that he has killed with his own hands - but he was as well a cog in a wheel.

Nevertheless this brave woman has my deep admiration.

 

[Ioanna]

Very nice claims Shelter and Name1 i feel the same way.
Can you understand that i've been thinking about this piece for days?
I think i would not be able myself to someone who has done something to me to
forgive certainly not embrace!
I think that lady transcends the human ...
i confess i could not do this.
But you should even think of this piece as you think on people you hate by some reason....than i felt this warmth inside.

 

[Shelter]

Surely Ioanna I will understand that this little clip has burned into your brain. As well as in mine! And forgiveness is the greatest thing a person can do to another one. And it is something the church is learning you if you are believing in God. It is one of the most brave things.

If I watch this doentary or I'm watching a movie where a victim gives forgiveness to his tormentor - honestly I must cry. I'm always overwhelmed. And in that moment I think that I would like it to be such a person. And I would be proud to be such a strong person to do that.

And than I think someone would murdering my boyfriend because he is gay or members of my family. I couldn't embrace this person in the court, I couldn't forgive him. That would be a moment I think I would wish we would have the death penalty again. These are very unchristian thoughts - but I can't help myself in this situation.

 

[gb2000ie]

By choosing to forgive, this woman asserted her defiance, her freedom, and her humanity. The Nazies tried to de-humanise her, and every other Jew. What is her response? To prove to the world that they utterly failed!

I too followed this case, and what struck me was that the people who came out of this looking bad were the "Nazi Hunters". Let it go already! I felt sorry for that 93 year old, I felt great admiration for this lady, and I felt great empathy for all the other victims, but I felt not a single positive emption towards the hunters.

B.

 

[cacc]

Of course what the nazis did was unforgivable. But I think it's a giant waste of time and resources to try to hunt down some 90+yo geezers who haven't been any sort of threat to anyone in decades, being a "nazi hunter" in 2015 is nothing but a way of trying to make yourself famous. Fellow might spend the 3 weeks he's got left to live behind bars. Justice! Sure. Instead of trying to hunt down some senile old men we probably ought to be thinking about making the world safe from the people who are a threat to it TODAY.

 

[Shelter]

Instead of trying to hunt down some senile old men we probably ought to be thinking about making the world safe from the people who are a threat to it TODAY.

That dear Cacc will happen too - but you must have patience. We will wait another 70 years and then ............... Wow but then we will show these guys what they have done wrong!

 

[tafkatrav]

i dont think that it is waste of time hunting them. They are killer. There is no statute of limitations on murder