What do you think about gay couples adopting children?

[punk_jeri]

I'm not gay, but some friends of mine are, and lately we've been discusin about gay couples adopting children. I'm not against it, but I do worry about the education that these kids are going to have.

 

[maboo]

:/. Gay couples adopting children; I'm for it. I'm a person who wants to be a father and have a family, if and when, I find the right guy. So I guess I would try adopt if surrogacy does not plan out well.

 

[Sinnerr]

I'm not gay, but some friends of mine are, and lately we've been discusin about gay couples adopting children. I'm not against it, but I do worry about the education that these kids are going to have.

I'm for but don't know whether I will want to be parent. Maybe yes maybe not. It's not question for me today, I'm too young yet .

What do you mean "education" ? (Maybe I suspet what do you mean but don't want to imply you anything.)

 

[jw4833]

I think its a good thing for gay people to adopt. I remember when me and my late bf had talked about adopting a child and a woman who was a former acquaintance who had been in a lesbian relationship in her twenties, had talked against us doing so because of the education fact that punk_jeri spoke about. Personally, I don't see where that has anything to do with the price of butter!!!..all this tells me is that when I hear people saying that we as human beings are making a great strides in progress within America, its BULLS**T. One thing I can say is when you watch the news, you never hear of a gay couple doing abusive things to children as you do "straight people" who kidnapped and kill children as well as sexually abuse them as well. Imagine what that would do to their educational pursuits, if they live to do so.

 

[gb2000ie]

I'm not gay, but some friends of mine are, and lately we've been discusin about gay couples adopting children. I'm not against it, but I do worry about the education that these kids are going to have.

Could you elaborate on the worries you have about education?

B.

 

[slimjim]

With apologies for maybe being too simplistic but if it's :




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[Whisper]

... a picture is worth a thousand words...

 

[hyacinthos]

With apologies for maybe being too simplistic but if it's (...)

Exactly. When people talk about adoption by homosexuals, they tend to use arguments like "heterosexual family is better than homosexual". This is a false dichotomy. The real is "any family is better than orphanage".

 

[smallsleepyrascalcat]

I don't think about normal things

 

[grant12]

I am completely for it. I would also like to know what you mean by education?

 

[aminirikia]

Exactly. When people talk about adoption by homosexuals, they tend to use arguments like "heterosexual family is better than homosexual". This is a false dichotomy. The real is "any family is better than orphanage".

I agree, oh so much, with you :cheers:
Homosexual kids are born in heterosexual homes, sexual indentiy shouldn't be an issue anyways. What's important is that a kid can have a home in wich she/he will be loved, it shouldn't matter if it's gay or straight.

Regarding education, a kid in a gay home has no reason to learn less than kids in heterosexual homes, I don't think those matters are related. If the concern is about sexual orientiation then I want to politely point out that
in heterosexual homes you are NOT taught to "be straight", at least not in
functional homes, so in a homosexual homes kids WON'T be "taught" to "be gay", at least in functional houses.

Adoption is an action of love to a child, it really shouldn't matter whether this
love comes from a hetero-house or not.

 

[Diangelo88]

I'm up for it if the relationship has proved to be a lasting one in which both can feel the need to adopt and not just one of the parts since it's very important for the kid to feel loved by either of this two daddies.

 

[alexfot55]

After 15 years of living together I'd have no objection.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

Hum concern about education right?... Murderers are often raised in a very good home... I was raised in a christian catholic heterosexual traditional family, and I am bisexual, anti-god and pseudo-traditional. Take it from me I was adopted when I was 4 years old... I was an orphan, Mother died at three, father out of portrait and wouldn't take responsibilities... was left alone alone with my baby sister (2 years younger) in a third world country where children with no parents end up in an orphanage where treatment given to kids are very questionable. We were both sick, and undernourished (I am not making this up to have you guys pity us... because today I am rich and wouldn't care less of your pity) but yes it sound like a story out of a Charles Dickens' novel. Children that are not adopted in a country that survive only by the international support... dies, end up working as underpaid slaves, drug dealers or if lucky may finish school... become super rich and doesn't care about anything else.

My sis and I were lucky enough to have been adopted, by a quite wealthy family, but if anything I just said about this gets to you... it's simple... kids need parents whether they are GAY, Transgenders, Freaks of nature... if they are ready and willing to give time, love and resources to a parentless child GO For IT. Education concern? Are you referring of the same education system that Charles Manson's received? He was raised christian, loving parents, loving home... if you're screwed in your head you are simply screwed... no level of education would change that. I know that somehow if you read through my post some people in this board have though of me having multiple personalities... NAHHH I have just one personality with multiple experiences gained earlier than a normal children... when you wake up in your house, see your mom dead, pick up your sis in a barely working wheel barrow and walk down to the city about 3 miles away from your home at 3 years old pulling your sis... will see what type of character you'll develop later.


So today I am a dad of two child (my own) they are 15 and 10, my dude is about to have his own children in few months from now (was done by artificial insemination) we are together for the last 5 years, and it will continue that way and my goal is to get at least two additional child (by adoption)... to match what my parents did for me... I will do the same for two parentless children and give them a home, where they will be loved, cared for by two dudes who happens to fuck one another... but education wise... I am doing my master degree, have tons of money to support the children and that's all the agency wanna hear.

Hope that help... and you can copy this and send it to your friends...being raised by the state is not the best educative options... it lacks that social value that one want to imprint in children... they become little social robots or total sociopaths.

 

[BearDelBear]

Anyone brave enough to want to raise a child should be allowed to - gay or straight; married or single.

 

[gb2000ie]

Anyone brave enough to want to raise a child should be allowed to - gay or straight; married or single.

Anyone capable of raising a child, and brave enough .....

Brave 12 year olds - no way. Brave sociopaths - no way, brave people without the mental faculties to do the job - no way .... I could go on.

You always have to balance the children's rights with the parents rights. It's not like the right to drive, where the car doesn't have rights of it's own.

B.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

Anyone brave enough to want to raise a child should be allowed to - gay or straight; married or single.

Bravery? What the heck bravery has to do with raising a child... those asswipe who can't properly educate a child to become someone in society, those who gets children so they can receive that welfare bonus, and those adopting children so they can put them to work for their business as young as 5 years old... are they brave or coward?

I know those are extreme example... but parenting and wanting to be a parent has nothing to do with bravery... perhaps the first 3 years ... but after that those are just little rays of sunshine... that you care so much for. They enliven your house and life and empty your wallet :rofl:... but hey you were going to give your money away anyway so why not have a child benefit of it.

 

[Mamah]

This must primarily be considered from the child's point of view, not as a "right" for same sex adult couples, in my opinion. Do children need loving female and male role model in their life? In my opinion, yes. But if the alternative is to be raised in an institution, then yes, it's better to be adopted by a suitable same sex couple.

 

[laylod4]

I think it funny that the male-female parenting thing comes as the best model at the hands of all others. Maybe it's just because we live in a heterosexual normed world. Maybe it's because raising a fully functioning heterosexual child is a sign of success that makes it so. If a child turns out to be gay it is a sign that parenting was likely at fault. When it's a heterosexual set of parents who've raised a gay child it's the fact that the father didn't spend enough time with the boy, or the mother smothered him. If a gay male couple have raised a gay boy it's the fact that he's been normalized to homosexualty and would thus follow. When a gay boy results from a lesbian couple it's because he didn't have "enough of a male influence." To say that heterosexual couples are best is the feed into the idea that creating a heterosexual child is the goal and anything less has been a mistake. A girl who is a tom boy, or an effeminate boy line up as against the norm and are a result of bad parenting. It's not true and I refuse to believe that gays are any less capable parents.

 

[gb2000ie]

I think it funny that the male-female parenting thing comes as the best model at the hands of all others. Maybe it's just because we live in a heterosexual normed world. Maybe it's because raising a fully functioning heterosexual child is a sign of success that makes it so. If a child turns out to be gay it is a sign that parenting was likely at fault.

Or, maybe it's because that's how you make babies? There is no need to evoke homophobia here, babies come from the coupling of a man and a woman, we have evolved that way.

When it's a heterosexual set of parents who've raised a gay child it's the fact that the father didn't spend enough time with the boy, or the mother smothered him. If a gay male couple have raised a gay boy it's the fact that he's been normalized to homosexualty and would thus follow. When a gay boy results from a lesbian couple it's because he didn't have "enough of a male influence." To say that heterosexual couples are best is the feed into the idea that creating a heterosexual child is the goal and anything less has been a mistake. A girl who is a tom boy, or an effeminate boy line up as against the norm and are a result of bad parenting. It's not true and I refuse to believe that gays are any less capable parents.

I really don't think this litany of prejudices are true any more, at least not in western Europe.

B.