who controls the world?

[etilit]

well we all see whats going on in the world we have that luxury lol

lets not play stupid...if your here you have access to Internet and a lot more so who controls you...you? and if so why? do you have so much to loose?

control is bast on fear so once thats gone.....POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

well we all see whats going on in the world we have that luxury lol

lets not play stupid...if your here you have access to Internet and a lot more so who controls you...you? and if so why? do you have so much to loose?

control is bast on fear so once thats gone.....POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

What you don't know? It's a bearded old man living in the sky... he also have a son (Aisa was is namO... but some people called him Lord or Jesus) whom was born from a virgin whom had 5 or 6 kids before him, she was also married to a rich Carpenter, I believe his name was Yussef (Joseph if you prefer the fake version of his name) and he accepted that a fly which they call today Seraphins (a type of dickless human that can fly) came to his virgin wife (with 5 kids) Myriam (or Mary) and told her she was going to have another kid which wasn't coming from Yussef but from a guy name Yahveh who lived so far away that no one could find him... I believe they said Cleveland but we agreed that he lived in the sky. And Yussef just accepted it because it seems that back in those days it was alright that somebody from far away could get a shot at your wife and make her pregnant, but who cares right? Back then woman (girls) would have had 5 children by the age of 18 already so what's one more.

So Aisa grew up becoming a Carpenter... of course he have been said to be poor, but really being a carpenter back then wasn't a poor man business, and Aisa was educated as opposed to a fisherman who spend day fishing at sea and would have no time to read a book (scroll with funny drawing on it), which was reserved only for the elite back then. Just ask Aisa's good friend Judah... who was a son of a fisherman, who was son of a fisherman (and we can go back as far as the first fish caught a fish on its fishnet... that's being fisherman); Judah didn't know much about anything but according to a book that doesn't figure in the new testament... Judah was very cute and very loved by Aisa (very very loved ). There's another book that wasn't includes in today's version of the new Testament it was a book relating the story before the faithful three years where Aisa was supposedly to die on a cross (funny enough after his passing he was seen teaching in India but that's another story );the book is called Enoch (there's few passages of it) but the whole gospel of Enoch does speak about Aisa growing up... doing the nasty little miraculous dude with boys and girls (such as making a staff disappear in a hole - no matter which holes and to whom it belonged to). For the sake of telling a true story about somebody's life shouldn't that part be included?

So basically this man living in the sky control the whole world... but kind of promise a 600 years old (which was pretty much 45 or 50 years old back then) that after he flood the whole world he would not try to destroy it again... instead he would send messengers... starting with is son Aisa, and few other including Aisa's far cousin Muhammad ibn Abdullah who is just like his cousin the subject of the creation of a mainstream religion; Islam.

So this man control the world, he creates tsunami, earthquakes, tornadoes, famished children, endorse rape, violence and everything that is bad in this world...but he also have created peanut butter (its best creation) but he loved us sooooooooo much that he gave his own son to save us from himself... so yeah he does control the world

Did I answer to your question?

 

[ajjuba05]

noone is independent.Everyone is controlled by the society just like the movie Matrix.and the answer to the quistion who controls todays world ,it depends.Mainly by multinational Companies.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

noone is independent.Everyone is controlled by the society just like the movie Matrix.and the answer to the quistion who controls todays world ,it depends.Mainly by multinational Companies.

So you do control the world too then... because society is formed by YOU and many other individuals. If you understood the underlying message of the Matrix the Warchowsky brothers where just trying to tell you to make yourself better than what is expected from you... refuse the assimilation and singularise yourself... keep a foot in the Matrix and the other foot in the much more lenient Matrix... because when you step away from one society, you are stepping into another one. Society are circles into circles... an anarchist saying that he/she loathes society and step out... he/she's a product of a larger society and decide to step in a more restricted one... society implies a population with common culture... nothing more nothing less. However sometimes, they find their new found society more restrictive than the on they were and will step back into the supposedly less lenient society.

So multinational companies control the world. Right? Who controls them? And the answer is YOU and find out why YOU control them... I'm not telling you.

 

[weydowner]

Money. Ultimately.

 

[slimjim]

That's an easy one... it's His Highness The Emir Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

That's an easy one... it's His Highness The Emir Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum

You're right who control the Gas control the world LOL... I'll introduce my grandma to him so he can control her GAZ problem :rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[SophieSweets]

Who is the master who makes the grass green?
(Clue: They are reading this RIGHT NOW!)

 

[Tjerk12]

No idea. But let us hope that it are not the Gods of the Mayas. The world would end in 2012 according to their prediction.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

No idea. But let us hope that it are not the Gods of the Mayas. The world would end in 2012 according to their prediction.

No no no the Mayan calendar wasn't about the end of the world... it was about the end of an era... we stupid people of today associated an old calendar that is not much relevant done with some stupid unrealistic calculations that doesn't make sense today. We might as well listen to Harold Camping and is indeterminate will to see the world ends... we were all suppose to be gone by May 21, 2011, and 2 years before that date as well :rofl: according to that old sack of dog barf... now the next time he came forward with another date forwarding the end of the world 8 months later... we're approaching it, I do hope he dies before he sees the sun shining after his last erroneous prediction... And that those dumb asses who gave him thousand of dollars so he could purchase air time and expensive billboard to warn people to amend their faults to GOD... wow... just wow how stupid people are really. Aids is ravaging children in Africa, we have victim of natural catastrophes all over the world waiting for our assistance but instead a bunch of self-centered jerk believing in some fairy tales prefer giving their hard earn money so Harold can purchase air-time and expensive billboard to warn those who can't read to seek salvation for their soul because the end is near.... what I say to that... DIE Harold Die... and in 2012 I'll do like I did in year 2000 I'll sit in front of my PC and look at the sun goes down on earth LOL... wake up the next day and go to work.:rofl:

 

[etilit]

What you don't know? It's a bearded old man living in the sky... he also have a son (Aisa was is namO... but some people called him Lord or Jesus) whom was born from a virgin whom had 5 or 6 kids before him, she was also married to a rich Carpenter, I believe his name was Yussef (Joseph if you prefer the fake version of his name) and he accepted that a fly which they call today Seraphins (a type of dickless human that can fly) came to his virgin wife (with 5 kids) Myriam (or Mary) and told her she was going to have another kid which wasn't coming from Yussef but from a guy name Yahveh who lived so far away that no one could find him... I believe they said Cleveland but we agreed that he lived in the sky. And Yussef just accepted it because it seems that back in those days it was alright that somebody from far away could get a shot at your wife and make her pregnant, but who cares right? Back then woman (girls) would have had 5 children by the age of 18 already so what's one more.

So Aisa grew up becoming a Carpenter... of course he have been said to be poor, but really being a carpenter back then wasn't a poor man business, and Aisa was educated as opposed to a fisherman who spend day fishing at sea and would have no time to read a book (scroll with funny drawing on it), which was reserved only for the elite back then. Just ask Aisa's good friend Judah... who was a son of a fisherman, who was son of a fisherman (and we can go back as far as the first fish caught a fish on its fishnet... that's being fisherman); Judah didn't know much about anything but according to a book that doesn't figure in the new testament... Judah was very cute and very loved by Aisa (very very loved ). There's another book that wasn't includes in today's version of the new Testament it was a book relating the story before the faithful three years where Aisa was supposedly to die on a cross (funny enough after his passing he was seen teaching in India but that's another story );the book is called Enoch (there's few passages of it) but the whole gospel of Enoch does speak about Aisa growing up... doing the nasty little miraculous dude with boys and girls (such as making a staff disappear in a hole - no matter which holes and to whom it belonged to). For the sake of telling a true story about somebody's life shouldn't that part be included?

So basically this man living in the sky control the whole world... but kind of promise a 600 years old (which was pretty much 45 or 50 years old back then) that after he flood the whole world he would not try to destroy it again... instead he would send messengers... starting with is son Aisa, and few other including Aisa's far cousin Muhammad ibn Abdullah who is just like his cousin the subject of the creation of a mainstream religion; Islam.

So this man control the world, he creates tsunami, earthquakes, tornadoes, famished children, endorse rape, violence and everything that is bad in this world...but he also have created peanut butter (its best creation) but he loved us sooooooooo much that he gave his own son to save us from himself... so yeah he does control the world

Did I answer to your question?

nope..but thanks for playing babe lol

 

[Behrluvr]

An important side question is "Who WILL control the world?"

The ones who will control the world will be those groups with high fertility rates. I can tell you who won't. The Europeans, the Russians, the Japanese, the Chinese, the Canadians. All these groups are petering out, in a generation or two they'll be halved, gone, or reduced to insignificance.

The Americans are at sustainable fertility rates. They will hold their population steady where it is today.

They surging fertility rates are in east Africa, sub Sahara, middle east, India/south asia, and the immigrant slums of European cities. This is where the next dominant cultures on earth will come from.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

An important side question is "Who WILL control the world?"

The ones who will control the world will be those groups with high fertility rates. I can tell you who won't. The Europeans, the Russians, the Japanese, the Chinese, the Canadians. All these groups are petering out, in a generation or two they'll be halved, gone, or reduced to insignificance.

The Americans are at sustainable fertility rates. They will hold their population steady where it is today.

They surging fertility rates are in east Africa, sub Sahara, middle east, India/south asia, and the immigrant slums of European cities. This is where the next dominant cultures on earth will come from.

Dear Behrluvr, as much as I like the fact that you includes canadians in your list, just know that Canadians are not an empirical society, therefore we have no deals and no wills in controlling the world. Back in the days who had the army controlled, Americans have had their shot... and now it's who has the money and capital control. Slimjim even if it was make in a subtle joke was near reality. His eminence Sultan of Brunei have enough money, power and capital to control the world. But in a more open ways I would not too much predict things based on opinion because you believe that Canadian, Chinese are insignificant doesn't mean they'll be gone. Please for the sake of proper analysis and social scientists all over the world... do a proper research and bring forward the results. I'll be more than happy to read them. Who control the world? You can not respond to this as of it now because this is an agglomeration of many powers who creates world class meetings and those are ambassadors of every powerful countries. Canada is here to stay and never have we had the empirical fever even though we would become a huge society. Please make sure to get your facts right.:cheers: On another note don't minimize who we are... your beloved Marines are trained by US... my name is Jake former soldier from Royal Canadian Air Force... got some facts for you.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

nope..but thanks for playing babe lol

Well it was fun...bring some more

 

[Behrluvr]

Dear Behrluvr, as much as I like the fact that you includes canadians in your list, just know that Canadians are not an empirical society, therefore we have no deals and no wills in controlling the world. Who control the world? You can not respond to this as of it now because this is an agglomeration of many powers who creates world class meetings and those are ambassadors of every powerful countries. Canada is here to stay and never have we had the empirical fever even though we would become a huge society. Please make sure to get your facts right.:cheers: On another note don't minimize who we are... your beloved Marines are trained by US... my name is Jake former soldier from Royal Canadian Air Force... got some facts for you.

The major fact of significance is the fertility rate. What that means is are there enough of you (Insert country name) being born to replace those dying off. Fertility rates are well studied, well known, and widely available on the 'net.

Money, armies, power, technical prowess are all insignificant compared to the fertility rate. No people = a busted out nation.
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You need a rate of 2.0 or higher to maintain a fixed population. None of the countries I mentioned have that. The US does have a 2.11 so we are stable and will watch the upcoming Armageddon in Europe. Canada's is 1.6 , several European countries are 1.1, 1.2 or so. Japan and Russia is 1.

What this means is these cultures are doomed. Western Europe, Japan, Russia, will go first followed by Canada. They will grow increasingly elderly with not enough new citizens being native born.

Then the special case of China. They have a 1.6 rate but its all boy babies. They euthanize/abort girl babies to abide by the 1 child rule. China will grow old before it ever becomes a world power. ANd unless they want to become a gay nation, all their male populations will move elsewhere to find wives.

Another looming train wreck is who will pay the taxes to support the welfare states in Europe and Canada? You need young working adults to do that. If they aren't being born who will pay the taxes to support the elderly? Look at Greece, that is Europe's near future.

No one has the answers but this is the reality being faced by most western countries today. This is going to go down in the next one or two generations. Nothing can stop it. The world is about to change dramatically and nothing can be done.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

The major fact of significance is the fertility rate. What that means is are there enough of you (Insert country name) being born to replace those dying off. Fertility rates are well studied, well known, and widely available on the 'net.

Money, armies, power, technical prowess are all insignificant compared to the fertility rate. No people = a busted out nation.
.
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You need a rate of 2.0 or higher to maintain a fixed population. None of the countries I mentioned have that. The US does have a 2.11 so we are stable and will watch the upcoming Armageddon in Europe. Canada's is 1.6 , several European countries are 1.1, 1.2 or so. Japan and Russia is 1.

What this means is these cultures are doomed. Western Europe, Japan, Russia, will go first followed by Canada. They will grow increasingly elderly with not enough new citizens being native born.

Then the special case of China. They have a 1.6 rate but its all boy babies. They euthanize/abort girl babies to abide by the 1 child rule. China will grow old before it ever becomes a world power. ANd unless they want to become a gay nation, all their male populations will move elsewhere to find wives.

Another looming train wreck is who will pay the taxes to support the welfare states in Europe and Canada? You need young working adults to do that. If they aren't being born who will pay the taxes to support the elderly? Look at Greece, that is Europe's near future.

No one has the answers but this is the reality being faced by most western countries today. This is going to go down in the next one or two generations. Nothing can stop it. The world is about to change dramatically and nothing can be done.

Well Internet is not my sole and only source of information, I have access to very interesting studies from universities accross the world through my university database. Yes you are correct rate of fertility will play in the next empire to control the world economy. The basic information you gave about fertility rates can indeed easily be found on the Internet, but is it always accurate? No. If you base your rhetoric on the W0rld Fact Book http://anonym.to/?https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html, I should warn you that even though there's a lot of information in there, they are for public viewers therefore the information contains is controlled and edited, it is not always showing the real pictures behind the data.

Therefore what you said is okay but it cannot be the sole factor, fertility is one factor, socioeconomic, general health, gross expenditures are to take in consideration as well. If I do a research to explain the fertility rate of a country I do not just count how many people can fuck... I also take in consideration all other factors in order to dress a proper picture.

Since you like Internet so much as a source of information, may I suggest you to go take a look at the following websites :

http://anonym.to/?http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ - This website is a doentary incubators, there many doentaries of many subjects. Of course you cannot just cut and paste the information and say it's reality... doentaries like any researches have a goal and when trying to reach that goal, many more interesting and interconnected subjects are left aside... but this should at least give you a very good ground on how to organize ideas and not taking anything you see on the Web as granted and pure truth.

http://anonym.to/?http://www.academicearth.org - Now this one is a very interesting one which I not only recommend to you, but many other members of this board, this website features lectures and real courses from Top universities, professors and researchers in many professional fields. Now same rules apply, research is a continuous activity, it doesn't mean that what they said here is not going to change in the next decade.

http://anonym.to/?http://mondediplo.com/ - This is a periodic specialized magazine read by many students and professors across the world. I did a lot of my sociological and political work using this paper as reference. In this paper this is not bias newspaper about some news, it's fully researched and analyzed. I highly recommend this magazine to everyone who have an interest for general diplomatic studies.

There I wish you a good read and viewing. :cheers:

 

[Behrluvr]

Well, I can't properly respond as I'm using my phone. No power, no internet, hurricane disaster here, I have my one candle burning,hey,hey,hey. But it seems you have used the standard liberal technique of burying the discussion in web links, without coming to a conclusion. Can you distill all that linkage down to something which makes a coherent counterpoint?

Remember, the way a discussion works is both parties offer points. It's NOT one side offers points while the other offers web links. If you have read that moutain of links, can you use the info to form a coherent argument?

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

Well, I can't properly respond as I'm using my phone. No power, no internet, hurricane disaster here, I have my one candle burning,hey,hey,hey. But it seems you have used the standard liberal technique of burying the discussion in web links, without coming to a conclusion. Can you distill all that linkage down to something which makes a coherent counterpoint?

Remember, the way a discussion works is both parties offer points. It's NOT one side offers points while the other offers web links. If you have read that moutain of links, can you use the info to form a coherent argument?

Because you find what you wrote as coherent information ...What you did there, you picked up a single factor and came to the conclusion that fertility was the only factor to explain the world domination, where in fact for more than two decades the very populated countries you mentioned have had overpopulation rate for a very long time and that didn't make them world power. China as you mentioned result to this solution of one child per family because they were facing an abnormal increasing population growth (although I don't agree with killing any human form of life) that's the only solution they could find to limit their ever growing population. Canada as you mentioned it so well is an aging population and we open our boarders to let immigrant in... now you seems to forget that AMERICA did exactly the same, they are 4 time our population, but as I don't have the actual numbers of immigrant for the last 50 years, taking also in consideration the detached territories the American have their rate of fertility thanks to immigration, otherwise it would be the very same case than Canada.

Rate of fertility is one things, but over population also brings a lot of problem that are going to affect their socioeconomic status which can definitely play against their world control.

In order to respond to what you wrote this means that I have to do a full pledge socioeconomic analysis using your details as a comparative benchmark. Although I have better to do than giving a complete analysis on a bulletin board. I will do it anyway just so you'll be content, if I can enlighten you with some different ways of doing a research I can sure give it a shot, because sociology/demography and politics ARE my area of studies.

Here's some question I'll try to develop around:

• Presence and absence of arable land affect a nation - got to feed all those powerful people of yours. Canada is one of the world's leader in grain/cereal production. We are not going to starve anytime soon.
• Life expectancy and literacy versus the quality of labor in the economy. To be powerful you need to have a certain level of literacy and a good medical care system.
• Fertility rates versus resources - yeah well more people equals more natural resources being used... check carefully how much foreign resources the Americans are using... Canada itself provides the USA with a load of natural resources.
• GDP per capita in order to pinpoint the standards of living in each system you mentioned
• And finally the impact of industrialization/service; agriculture, employment etc.

In some of the countries you have named, there few with some of those issues and that is why I questioned if fertility is the only factor for becoming a world power. More people = more food, more food = more production and some of those countries you mentioned will have a hard time to maintain an equals share of resources.

There is indeed more to develop around, but hey I get pay thousands of dollars to do what I'm about to do for free so you'll be content.

Give me a week or two (very little time to come with a study, but I'll try my best) and I'll gather the information I need, put it in a nice text and give it to you from this thread. Since you can't view the links due to Irene's aftermath you wouldn't storm after those links if you'd saw the wealth of information they contain. :cheers:

 

[Behrluvr]

On the cellphone still so let me attempt the 2 thumb response. It is unimportant how many web links you pull up. All that shows is you can find web links. This is a discussion, that means 2 or more people dicuss their own ideas. Pulling up web links is not a discussion. That turns it into a monologue - with me doing all the talking. Are you able to formulate your own idea? Can you take the contents of all those links and produce and indepndant thought?

This is the real world here, not some classroom. In the real world one must produce original output. Copying and pasting is not original output. I don't care one whit how many links you can reference, that's just regurgitation. That is not discussion. If you can't formulate an original idea, then your education was a waste - any letters after your name are window dressing.

My thumbs are worn out at this point, hopefully the power will be retored here soon.

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

On the cellphone still so let me attempt the 2 thumb response. It is unimportant how many web links you pull up. All that shows is you can find web links. This is a discussion, that means 2 or more people dicuss their own ideas. Pulling up web links is not a discussion. That turns it into a monologue - with me doing all the talking. Are you able to formulate your own idea? Can you take the contents of all those links and produce and indepndant thought?

This is the real world here, not some classroom. In the real world one must produce original output. Copying and pasting is not original output. I don't care one whit how many links you can reference, that's just regurgitation. That is not discussion. If you can't formulate an original idea, then your education was a waste - any letters after your name are window dressing.

My thumbs are worn out at this point, hopefully the power will be retored here soon.

Did you actually read what I wrote? Might want to calm down and smell the roses and stop being on an offensive strike... I did say I was responding to you but if that's the way you are going to respond each and every time someone is not agreeing with you I'd prefer pass and forget all about it... I sense some extreme defensive behaviors in your response and if that's the way it's going to be sir I prefer not to reply to you at all and let you believe that you're right because I have the idea that's all you want to be: to be right. I already partially replied to your post and yet you're rambling about the links I posted.

You insinuate that I don't have a grasp of what the real world is... but yet I just have to scroll in your previous posts to find out that this seems to be a very projection of our own behavior. I can and I will reply to the only condition that this testosterone useless competition cease at once because I have nothing to prove to YOU at all, but I'm always here for a good discussion but if you are going to stumble on useless detail without even taking in consideration that I did partially replied to you this means that this is going to be a total waste of time on my side (I don't know for you).

Since you have no electricity I take that you haven't visit any of those links I provided and to be clear, I provided those links as a reference that you can use. Now since you couldn't see them I take that you're rambling over nothing. Those links were not related to the subject at once but I did post earlier what I was going to do but you step this all together and try to discredit my studies (did I insulted you personally in anyways and if I did please let me know so I can explain myself or apologize). Frankly Berhluvr is it a proper way of asking for an argumentation? Are you trying to make me look bad in any ways? because if that's the goal well that's okay I don't mind to look bad in a public forum because the matter and the fact is that in the real world (which I'm fully aware of by the way) I am what I am and I know who I am and nobody can say otherwise. If you really want to know who I am behind that jaketoronto2004 pseudo, just come forward and ask, other did it and they don't see much difference.

Want me to reply, sure I'll do it... but I did and you totally skipped that part and kept on going about a bunch of links that you didn't even see yourself. Forget the links, what about after the links there was other posts but it seems that you're looking for an intellectual fight and discredit without even reading and use questionable points that you have obviously missed. But hey you're on your phone I can understand, why don't you wait to be fully capable to view everything before answering.