who controls the world?

[777]

that's kinda like what I said. and I never accept at face value the shit that people try to feed me, including all the stuff I read here

I guess I was thinking in the lines of not just fundamental Muslims, but any kind of fundamentalism. It is already happening in your country, extremists, religious or otherwise, have a lot of power. They just aren't Muslims, though they seem to target the hate speech like above. There's a story I read and the author asks a very good question...

"In the aftermath of my events on Sept. 11, 2011, I feel violated, humiliated and sure that I was taken from the plane simply because of my appearance. Though I never left my seat, spoke to anyone on the flight or tinkered with any “suspicious” device, I was forced into a situation where I was stripped of my freedom and liberty that so many of my fellow Americans purport are the foundations of this country and should be protected at any cost.

I believe in national security, but I also believe in peace and justice. I believe in tolerance, acceptance and trying–as hard as it sometimes may be–not to judge a person by the color of their skin or the way they dress. I admit to have fallen to the traps of convention and have made judgments about people that are unfounded. We live in a complicated world that, to me, seems to have reached a breaking point. The real test will be if we decide to break free from our fears and hatred and truly try to be good people who practice compassion–even toward those who hate.

I feel fortunate to have friends and family members who are sick over what happened to me. I share their disgust. But there was someone on that plane who felt threatened enough to alert the authorities. This country has operated for the last 10 years through fear. We’ve been a country at war and going bankrupt for much of this time. What is the next step?"

And someone answers (to her whole post):

"Toni
September 15, 2011 at 10:18 am

I grew up in Communist country. It looked the same."

 

[gingentleman]

Multi-national corporations now have the world firmly in their greedy grasp...

 

[Behrluvr]

Europe is going to be Islamicized within the next generation or so. Native Europeans have too small of a fertility rate to replace those who are dying naturally. While the Islamic immigrants and Islamic native borns have huge fertility rates. Within a generation or two, they will be the predominant demographic group in Europe.

Add to this the 'open borders' policy of many European countries, giving pretty much unrestricted entrance to Europe to those from the middle east, sub sahara and east Africa.

Europe needs the immigrants. They need the tax income to fund the generous welfare state entitlements - there are simply not enough native Europeans coming along in the pipeline to support those receiving government checks.

These groups are colonizing Europe while you sleep. Islam is strong and on the move. They will get elected into the parliments, into positions of power, they will vote, they will enact Sharia. The European way of life will likely not survive.

These immigrant will not assimilate. They self segregate now in enclaves in European cities. Enclaves where Westerners and even the police do not dare set foot. These are essentially sovereign Islamic states within the cities of London, Malmo, Marseilles, Rotterdam. They will grow.

Here is some news coverage, scary stuff....

 

[tiggertoo]

Europe is going to be Islamicized within the next generation or so.

I heard one main thing in that video clip, that political correctness in europe was the reason that no one stopped all those demonstrations and that no one stood up to tell islamic people to screw off if they didnt like the country they immigrated to. That's how I feel too, that if an immigrant doesnt like the politics or the religion or society of the country they wanted to come to, then they need to get the hell back to their home land. I heard that the New Zealand Prime Minister said that publicly and I agree on that. Maybe more governments should say the same thing. like it or leave it.

 

[777]

Here is some news coverage, scary stuff....

CBN News... Christian Broadcasting Network (a fundamentalist Christian television channel in the US)

You are making my points so wonderfully, thank you! :heart:

 

[titanium833]

Europe is going to be Islamicized within the next generation or so. Native Europeans have too small of a fertility rate to replace those who are dying naturally. While the Islamic immigrants and Islamic native borns have huge fertility rates. Within a generation or two, they will be the predominant demographic group in Europe.

Add to this the 'open borders' policy of many European countries, giving pretty much unrestricted entrance to Europe to those from the middle east, sub sahara and east Africa.

Europe needs the immigrants. They need the tax income to fund the generous welfare state entitlements - there are simply not enough native Europeans coming along in the pipeline to support those receiving government checks.

These groups are colonizing Europe while you sleep. Islam is strong and on the move. They will get elected into the parliments, into positions of power, they will vote, they will enact Sharia. The European way of life will likely not survive.

These immigrant will not assimilate. They self segregate now in enclaves in European cities. Enclaves where Westerners and even the police do not dare set foot. These are essentially sovereign Islamic states within the cities of London, Malmo, Marseilles, Rotterdam. They will grow.

Here is some news coverage, scary stuff....

hi
im living in iran and i supposed to be a muslim ! but im not , not anymore ! in the past few years whit this technologies like internet and satelites and... my generation (internet generation) is discovering the truth about islam ! now we know that we dont need to bilive in a religion or even a god to be a good human !
what im trying to say is we r counting az muslims , but we r not muslim ! and we afraid to say this in such a country !
tnx

 

[Behrluvr]

CBN News... Christian Broadcasting Network (a fundamentalist Christian television channel in the US) You are making my points so wonderfully, thank you!

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The point I'm making is Islam is on the march in Europe. The numbers are growing exponentially. The way of life in Europe is coming to an end in our lifetimes. Countries like France and Belgium will trade Christianity for Islamic values.
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You pooh-pooh Christians and and dismiss them as hate mongers. Very well, that is your right for the moment since the current law in Europe allows you to do that. But once Europe becomes an islamic republic, you will lose that right. YOur choice will be to convert or be killed. Allah demands this. (or possibly live under the terrible yoke of being a dhimini in your former homelands). The fact is Europe is being conquered. Not necessarily with guns but with sheer numbers.

 

[loretta]

no way that the islamic take over europe, look at the moslems here: drinking alkohol, playing football and living a normal life, you only look at the islamists in the news, they exist but the majority of the moslems are as moslem as most christians are christians - only for the holidays
i live in germany and grew up with "moslems", they even celebrate xmas!
and the germans favourite food is turkish: döner kebab

money rules everything nowadays - there is no moral left in business

 

[XMan101]

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The point I'm making is Islam is on the march in Europe. The numbers are growing exponentially. The way of life in Europe is coming to an end in our lifetimes. Countries like France and Belgium will trade Christianity for Islamic values.
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You pooh-pooh Christians and and dismiss them as hate mongers. Very well, that is your right for the moment since the current law in Europe allows you to do that. But once Europe becomes an islamic republic, you will lose that right. YOur choice will be to convert or be killed. Allah demands this. (or possibly live under the terrible yoke of being a dhimini in your former homelands). The fact is Europe is being conquered. Not necessarily with guns but with sheer numbers.

It's complete garbage like this that breeds fear for those unable to differentiate the fact from fiction, it's cheap tabloid journalism that you're constantly peddling at any opportunity.

I live in Europe and your fantasy vision of it is very much removed from reality.

If you concentrate on any extreme corner of anything you're easily able to write the scaremongering headlines, the simple fact is that the vast majority are not remotely interested in taking over. The vast majority do not believe in killing people, which is why we don't get the huge spate of terrorist attacks we had back in the 1970s when the IRA were in full flow. The few brainwashed people using murder for political ends are not regarded as Muslims by most Muslims, it's against their scriptures !

as someone above said, many drink, most are not hard liners, and I've met some who were openly gay!

I'm no fan of religion, but I'm a big fan of freedom and allowing those who want it, get comfort from it etc, to practise it without being interferred with and threatened by the close minded who want everything done their own way!

I suggest you step down off that soapbox and look around for some true facts. I'm beginning to believe you live in some redneck small town somewhere! Your posts are full of great anger and hatred - hatred for whom and why ?

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

It's complete garbage like this that breeds fear for those unable to differentiate the fact from fiction, it's cheap tabloid journalism that you're constantly peddling at any opportunity.

I live in Europe and your fantasy vision of it is very much removed from reality.

If you concentrate on any extreme corner of anything you're easily able to write the scaremongering headlines, the simple fact is that the vast majority are not remotely interested in taking over. The vast majority do not believe in killing people, which is why we don't get the huge spate of terrorist attacks we had back in the 1970s when the IRA were in full flow. The few brainwashed people using murder for political ends are not regarded as Muslims by most Muslims, it's against their scriptures !

as someone above said, many drink, most are not hard liners, and I've met some who were openly gay!

I'm no fan of religion, but I'm a big fan of freedom and allowing those who want it, get comfort from it etc, to practise it without being interferred with and threatened by the close minded who want everything done their own way!

I suggest you step down off that soapbox and look around for some true facts. I'm beginning to believe you live in some redneck small town somewhere! Your posts are full of great anger and hatred - hatred for whom and why ?

Hear Hear :cheers: Finally something good coming out of this thread :applause::applause::applause:

 

[Behrluvr]

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I don't normally censor discussion threads without good reason. In this case there are THREE good reasons.

1. You've already made these points, and in more than one post and more than one thread, you're just repeating what you've already emphasised, there is no need to keep on and on just to try and wear people down to your way of thinking.

2. We're now getting serious complaints from members about your posts. Where I find them laughable others are finding them unpleasant. We have an international membership here from all walks of life, you need to respect their sensibilities and agree to differ in your views once you've made them.

3. This is NOT the place to peddle such extremist views. We're not a political forum, there are plenty of places you can do that, this is a fun and general conversation section.

You've made your point , there is no need to keep repeating yourself.

I don't want to have to censor another post !!

Thank you

XMan101
Admin

 

[Tjerk12]

Mother Earth. Anyone can try to beat her but loses eventually.

Long, long time ago, “primitive civilizations” respected “Mother Earth”. They understood that living was only possible by the grace of her mercy. However the old lady was moody and sometimes she used the elements earth, water, air or fire to sow death and destruction. Initially people reacted humble and tried to propitiate her by offering possession or even life. But wise and courageous men fought back and invented protective equipment against her whims. They shared that knowledge. Mother Earth started to lose control and mankind seemed to rule the world. This annoyed the old lady. She lost her temper. Her body temperature rose. But, clever as she is, she found the solution. She planted the seed of discord and greed in mankind. She created the “Manager”, a ruthless weapon of mass destruction. This brought things back to normal. So “Mother Earth” rules the world again.

 

[mikey11]

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I don't normally censor discussion threads without good reason. In this case there are THREE good reasons.

1. You've already made these points, and in more than one post and more than one thread, you're just repeating what you've already emphasised, there is no need to keep on and on just to try and wear people down to your way of thinking.

2. We're now getting serious complaints from members about your posts. Where I find them laughable others are finding them unpleasant. We have an international membership here from all walks of life, you need to respect their sensibilities and agree to differ in your views once you've made them.

3. This is NOT the place to peddle such extremist views. We're not a political forum, there are plenty of places you can do that, this is a fun and general conversation section.

You've made your point , there is no need to keep repeating yourself.

I don't want to have to censor another post !!

Thank you

XMan101
Admin

Bravo!! XMan101, bravo! I would click "thank" to the post but that would unrightfully go to Behrluvr. So I have to make a new post to thank you.

 

[etilit]

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I don't normally censor discussion threads without good reason. In this case there are THREE good reasons.

1. You've already made these points, and in more than one post and more than one thread, you're just repeating what you've already emphasised, there is no need to keep on and on just to try and wear people down to your way of thinking.

2. We're now getting serious complaints from members about your posts. Where I find them laughable others are finding them unpleasant. We have an international membership here from all walks of life, you need to respect their sensibilities and agree to differ in your views once you've made them.

3. This is NOT the place to peddle such extremist views. We're not a political forum, there are plenty of places you can do that, this is a fun and general conversation section.

You've made your point , there is no need to keep repeating yourself.

I don't want to have to censor another post !!

Thank you

XMan101
Admin

you just answerd my q babe:thumbs up: thanks lol