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DAMN!! The Irish voted "Yes"!

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So Ireland has voted for this Lisbon treaty.

It's disgusting that the fact they voted no first time they had to vote again to get the "right" answer!!

Dear Gordon won't allow us a vote - so there we have European & British democracy in action!!

I want Kev's sniper rifle :p
 
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Bo.

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It's disgusting that the fact they voted no first time they had to vote again to get the "right" answer!!
I think they voted first time 6 months ago?!
I guess if they voted 'no' this time too, they would have to vote again and again until the result was 'yes' lol
 
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I think they voted first time 6 months ago?!
I guess if they voted 'no' this time too, they would have to vote again and again until the result was 'yes' lol

To quote our parliamentary lingo "I refer the honorable gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago"

And that just about sums up democracy European style ;)
 

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what`s this "Lisbon treaty" all about? lol, sorry but i`m all out of TV and news lately :)
 
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It means that Tony Blair becomes President of Europe!!

Now you know why I want the sniper rifle!! :p

OK it's more complicated than that, but it's Saturday night , so check the BBC website ;)
 

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oh, politics politics politics... always hated politics! and politicians as well! Tony Blair president of Europe? boq... ROmania elected a guy who used to herd the sheeps but he`s reach and he is the owner of Steaua , the soccer team, to be an euro parliament man...nothing amazes me anymore nowadays
 

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Maybe Bush will change his nationality now.
 

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It means that Tony Blair becomes President of Europe!!

Now you know why I want the sniper rifle!! :p

OK it's more complicated than that, but it's Saturday night , so check the BBC website ;)


hey hey hey babe, don't knock tony:p hahaha
 
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Maybe Bush will change his nationality now.

lol good thing I don't live in Europe then! :p Had enough of him here! lol




What is this Treaty all about? lol XMan you and I always talk about the funniest things :p
 

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That's terrible. It was a huge achievement when the Irish rejected it. That 'treaty' was just a repackaging of the same EU constitution that voters rejected; and the second time around only Ireland was able to vote on it. Who knows what was done to get the 'yes' answer this time... Obviously they could have just come up with an improved document filled with things that most people actually want and would vote for.
 

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I want Kev's sniper rifle :p

Which one...



My baby was an M40A1, this was for eliminating personnel...

Manufacturer: Specially trained armorers at Quantico, Virginia.
Length: 44 inches (111.76 centimeters)
Barrel length: 24 inches (61 centimeters)
Weight: 14.5 pounds (6.58 kilograms)
Bore diameter: 7.62mm (.308 inches)
Maximum effective range: 1000 yards (914 meters)
Muzzle velocity: 2550 feet (777 meters) per second
Chamber pressure: 50,000 psi
Magazine capacity: 5 rounds
Unit Replacement Cost: $2,105

Features: The M40A1 sniper rifle is based on the Remington model 700. It is a heavy barrel, bolt action, magazine fed 7.62mm rifle that is optimized for accuracy with Match Grade ammunition. The rifle is equipped with a special 10 power Unertl sniper scope. With scope, the rifle weighs approximately 14.5 pounds. It is equipped with a built-in five round magazine. This weapon is hand-made by specially trained and qualified armorers at Quantico, Virginia.
The unique characteristics of the M40A1 Sniper Rifle are: commercial competition-grade heavy barrel, McMillan fiberglass stock and butt pad, modified Winchester Model 70 floorplate and trigger guard, and modified and lightened trigger. In addition, each stock is epoxy bedded for accuracy and all weapons must shoot less than one minute of angle (MOA).

Background: The M40A1 was put into service in the 1970s to meet the need of a long range sniper rifle. Each rifle is hand built by specially trained and qualified personnel at the Marine Corps Marksmanship Training Unit (MTU) at Quantico, Virginia.

But for taking out vehicles, equipment, or shooting through armor, we had the Barrett M82A1A SASR...

I only got to play with this bad boy a couple of times but OMFG!!!



And just for fun...

 

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holy crap!!! no wonder they busted down your door kevin!!!!!!!! hahah lol
 
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now you brits...have an idea of what is going on with the American health care debate...its all corrupt as hell...
 
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yes we did vote yes :p respect it!! lol
correct a few points since... well im irish and in ireland :p
the first vote was over a year ago and was rejected because well a lot of the population didnt know what the fuk it was lol
this time we were asked again with legal binding guarntees from europe in reguards to our neutrailty, issues on family law aka ban on abortion and our sovernity and tax
however this time round there was a huge swing to yes cause the country is fuked and we need europe aka cash and jobs lol
so leave us alone we only doin it cause we selvish lol

england has already passed it so stop winging at us u passed it first lol
and yes i know u didnt vote on it but u did put labour into power to do it and well just proves we got better constitution as we gota vote on all europe treaties lol

only 2 countries are left to pass it, poland and the czech republic. poland is expect to sign it in a few days/weeks but the czechs have lodged a complaint to the czech constitutional court so that could take like 6 months :p

srry i keep up on all this crap lol and could bore u to tears lol
 
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It doesn't bore me, I always find politics fascinating.

Our wonderful Labour Government was elected on somethinmg like 30% of the vote (forget the exact figure, it's too late :p ) yet have total control. We have a leader who is not voted for by the country as a leader, he's placed there by the party and even he was unelected by party members as nobody dared oppose him after Tony Blair stepped down (or was forced, depending what you interpret), he has powers effectively of a president.

No we don't "vote" for this government nor our leader nor this treaty. I'm not blaming the Irish people, it's just unfortunate that the powers that be got their way and made sure it got in one way or another.

I'm not sure what the Tories can do if it's all ratified by the time they get back in power, probably very little !
 
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we didnt vote for our pm either, he stepped aside and a new pm elected by the party so we in same boat, we didnt vote for our leader either lol :p
and now i think of it we got it doubly bad as we didnt technically elect our president at the moment either. she went forward to her second term as president and no one opposed her so she was made president by default for a second term.

and technically its wrong to say u didnt vote for brown, technically u voted for labour, a party, its not a presidential thing where u vote for a person. the party decides who leads it and the population votes on a party :p

in ireland we got it worse with PR voting. no matter what party u vote here u always end up with 2 or more parties ruling so its always a compromised manifesto on the group of parties that rule not a single "yes i like X's manifesto" and vote for that
 
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That's why I'm against a PR system, haven't found one I consider any fairer than our "first past the post" system. They all lead to compromise government with minority parties holding sway over the majority!

We'll be unlikely to get it here as the 2 main parties know damn well they would never get in with a majority again.
 
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Well I hope you UKers note....in the US...we threw off your terrible form of government to embrace an even crazier more corrupt form of government....at least you guys have health care....lol.
 
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