death of music

[expressboy]

what do you think about modern music and musicians?is the music scene still original and good as it was during 60's 70's and 80's



i think that most of music is commercial,made just for money

in the past musicians made music that is a product of heart and soul



it is hard to be original today,but there are still creative music artist like Robyn and Goldfrapp


and most of good musicians who started career in the past (20th century)

are still making music and still performing (rolling stones,madonna)


kate bush realesed Aerial in 2005 ,masterpiece which didnt top charts but that is just proof that songs in top 10 or top 20 is just crap,





in 2008 madonna realesed hard candy album just to be no.1 in USA where people like only hip hop/rap/r'n'b music and for the first time she has't made a trend in music she followed it



rihanna,david guetta,timbaland and people who make simmilar music are just in music industry because of money


lady gaga is pefect example of commercial music,not just that she is a horrible songwriter she is telling that she is original and not fake

but what is original about her? her style which is combination of gwen stefani ,madonna,grace jones and other female singers

many young people today think that music is born yesterday,they dont know who are some sirious musicians from the past and think that its not cool to listen to old music

but old music is eternal and good


and many people are being subjective ,in other words if they like lady gaga they think she is the best insted being objective and seeing that she is just a entertainer like most of modern musicians and not a pop artist as she thinks

 

[loveless92]

Music today sucks, even musicians I like aren't as good as they were in the 80s or 90s. Once the year 2000 hit, things started sucking and idk why.

 

[jw4833]

I consider myself to be a music fanatic considering that I've been collecting music since I was twelve years old. And I do agree with you in regard to the music that is being created today. There are just a handful of artists that I considered true to the music game and play "real" instruments as well as singing. I've been watching a TV show for the month of February and they've been discussing music, movies, etc. from the 70's, 80's and the 90's and they have also featured bands and singers of r&b who had hits during those years and to hear them playing live was awesome because the majority of the bands had proven that they are just as good as they were when those hits were recorded. I also found myself listening to a lot of the music from those years as well which can still stand amongst the artist of today and be able to still shine.

 

[Tjerk12]

I do not know much about music. But I know something about passion. A real artist has passion for the things he wants to do. That didn't change since humans exist. But I think you talk about an industry that commercialized one expression of such a passion "music". For them the only quality that counts are the selling numbers. But also nowadays there are a lot of musicians that make music out of passion. I know a Dutch artist that makes really wonderful experimental electronic violin music. It brings me tears of happiness. However he never sold a record.

 

[Squallmuzza]

I haven't listened to the charts since the age of reason.

I don't think creativity and musical flair has been lost. It's merely been pushed to the background by fickle consumerism. And because of this, less people embrace is due to have no hopes or prospects in the field (or at least very little).

There is more than enough creative new artists in the underground scene though. You just have to be willing to work at it, dig away and find the treasures as you will. A lot of such artists tend to clump together in a group and are easily findable by relation on sites like last.fm.

For example, a group I find to be continually creative in what they do: Tubelord. They are linked to the bands Los Campesinos!, Johnny Foreigner, Copy Haho, Parenthentical Girls, Tellison, Stagecoach, Islet and a bunch others I can't think of off the top of my head. All of which are in the same field and are very much at the creative core of a sound. I stumbled across from visiting their gigs or just from linking on last.fm.

Oh ye true believers, don't lose faith and the true music shall come to thee

 

[ritsuka]

There is not just one "music scene" today, but many. Since the birth of the internet, we aren't dependent on what is played on the radio/mtv or happens to be available in the local record shop, who happens to come touring in any one year.... So, there is a great, vibrant indie music scene available pulsing with new genres that are not just generic pop music made to make money. I think it is all quite rightly subjective--you like what you want, and the most famous people aren't necessarily the best. I get a lot out of listening to artists around my age who grew up in the same era; so while The Cure - Pornography (1982, before I was even born) is one of my all-time favorites, I think music today is great, and anything you're looking for is imminently findable. I've discovered at least four new all-time favorite albums of mine in the past year by young, rarely heard musicians.

 

[Z.C.]

This is a great topic! I generally listen to music 24/7, when I wake up, when I'm in class, during free time, and when I sleep. I'll be the happiest deaf man ever! But I have noticed most music today is generally just for the cash, but there are still artist/bands that still express themselves through their music. When I was a kid I was raised on every genre of music. It's most of the fans too, they full the fire for some for the crap that's produced today. For me, I don't care who the artist is, if they make some good hits that fuel my inspiration for art class, I'll still have faith for the future of music. Some of my top favorites are Ozzy Osbourne, Tegan and Sara, 32 Leaves, Sleigh Bells, Rise Against, MSI. Of course I like to switch my playlists every now and then

 

[brmstn69]

99.9% of music made since 1995 is pure garbage...

 

[tyhg]

black eyed peas song 'dirty bit' = worst song ever

 

[loveless92]

99.9% of music made since 1995 is pure garbage...

Eh, I disagree
PIG and KMFDM had great releases post 1995, so did Chemlab, Einsturzende Neubauten, Tim Skold's debut album was pretty awesome too, Schwein, my favorite Buck-Tick album came out in 97, anything J.G. Thirlwell made, and Peter Murphy's "Recall" just to point out a few that I know off the top of my head.

 

[diklik]

Yes, of course some people who like nothing but what was produced in their young times will always talk in terms of "in my times, things were so much better!" just the way old people today speak about how they were walking to school everyday and such while we have it easy... yeah, okay, I took the bus, though I'd like to see these same people trying to understand what we learn in school these days.

On this one, you and I are in total agreement, and I am in my retirement years. I truly like the music I grew up with, and it was an eclectic mixture of pop, rock, disco, classical, art song, opera, country&western, and various forms of jazz - both hot, cool and dixieland. Although I haven't too many favs in current music, I respect that artists have something to offer despite my personal tastes. I like stuff by John Mayer, Maroon 5, Blink 182, Pink, Sara Bareilles, Lady Antebellum, to name a few. Eclectic as I mentioned.

It is a classic response of all humans to feel that any younger generation does not appreciate the older, and has life too easy. Maybe in some cases that is true, but as an old guy I recognize that sentiment when it crops up and try my hardest to suppress it. School today is a nightmare of intensified learning on a very short curve. I would not want to be a high school student today, not at all. I validate my acceptance and encouragement of youth as a mentor and lifestyle counselor, and claim moderate success with young adult males - in a non-sexual style of camaraderie and fellowship, based on voluntary requests by them for counseling, etc.

 

[slimjim]

It is a classic response of all humans to feel that any younger generation does not appreciate the older, and has life too easy. Maybe in some cases that is true, but as an old guy I recognize that sentiment when it crops up and try my hardest to suppress it.

 

[diklik]

re the Stunning Senior Moment thing....

Yeah, sounds like it really could have happened. I don't find too many arrogant young guys these days, at least in terms of the toys and technology that they play with. Having a background in some tech stuff, I can generally hold my own with anyone who has their Masters degree in Electronic Engineering (used to do that for a living before I retired). The occasional arrogance I note is most often sexual.....that macho strut some young guys adopt, until some older guy teaches them a few new (to them) tricks that puts them back in their place.

A line that I chose to use one time was "Boy, I had burnt my cock out with use before yours was even big enough to play with". I proved the line with physical demonstration of my ability and that shut him up fairly quickly. Haven't had to use that approach more than a time or two. Most younger men who want to partner with me are already in an accepting mode of both my age and experience level. But that's the sexual side of it. The young adult males who I see for legitimate mentoring are amazed at how conversant and appreciative I am with their lifestyles and experiences. Taking the time to learn about anyone's lifestyle is worthwhile to me.

 

[c750dt]

I don't care for much of new music but again, much of older music I don't care for so much either. I don't think music is degrading so much as it is we're seeing a generation shift and that what we say now, our parents probably said 20 and 30 years ago. After all, remember Milli Vanilli or the Sex Pistols? We definitely can't say either of them had more talent than Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga.

 

[brmstn69]

Eh, I disagree
PIG and KMFDM had great releases post 1995, so did Chemlab, Einsturzende Neubauten, Tim Skold's debut album was pretty awesome too, Schwein, my favorite Buck-Tick album came out in 97, anything J.G. Thirlwell made, and Peter Murphy's "Recall" just to point out a few that I know off the top of my head.

I've never heard of any of those people/bands...

 

[garth33]

Who says they don't make good music anymore?
F*ck this thread I've a HORSE OUTSIDE! (see below)

PS - I'm hoping I-Man or maybe even Putin can closed-caption that Irish gibberish in the beginning for me!

 

[loveless92]

I've never heard of any of those people/bands...

There's the issue. Those bands didn't start sucking until now... well, idk about Peter Murphy.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

Sometime in the 1990s I got really really disillusioned with popular music. It seemed that, while I still heard the odd song that inspired me, that was happening less and less, while the amount of crap was just increasing.

My great love has always been what was loosely termed progressive rock. I hasten to add though that I love plenty of stuff, old and new, that does not fall under that category at all; a song does not have to be complex to sound good. It's just I found myself thinking so often "Hmmm, that's a new song, but I have heard it a thousand times before" - know what I mean?

What I have discovered recently is that good original music is still being made, but for whatever reason it does not make it to radio or to the hit charts. Back in the 1960s (yeah I know, I'm an old fart) radio stations played a mix. It was all there: the brillince and the crap, all in together... the folk rock, the psychedelia, the bubblegum, the progressive rock, the Motown and so on.What do we have now? At least where I live, commercial radio has become very homogenised. If I listen to any one station for any length of time, I find myslef thinking "Didn't they play that same song a few minutes ago?", and I realise no it was a different song, but the same formula.

On the Internet I can access all kinds of music that does not make it to radio, and I can find an Internet radio station specialising in any one of over two hundred genres of music. So why does free-to-air radio matter? Because that's the primary way I used to DISCOVER music, and it's still the way people discover music - or rather, they would if the stations were actually offering something to take them on a journey of discovery rather than regurgitating the hit charts.

Let's face it, irrespective of whether you love Lady Gaga or hate her, you know how her next release will sound. My current favourite band is a band called Porcupine Tree, who I discoverd - bizarrely - by being told about them on a gay chat site. I have no idea how their next album will sound, but I have all their ten studio albums, and most of the content is pure gold. Now that I know of their existence, I will seek out anything new that they release, check out related projects by the band members, and investigate music that has been recommended by other people who belong to the band's fan forum. I wonder though how much other music would affect me that way once I discovered it? Unfortunately there are simply not sufficient hours in the day to follow up on all the recommendations I see on sites like that one.

 

[ksboy78]

Be prepared to weep for humanity, fellas - Kim Kardashian has "recorded" a "song." I feel so ashamed of America -- nay, the EARTH -- right now. Massive Auto Tune + Vapid Fame Whore = Kim Kardashian's "Jam."

Massive Auto Tune + Vapid Fame Whore = Kim Kardashian's "Jam."

ETA: Fast forward to 0:50 into the clip, unless you want to hear Ryan Seacrest's pedantic brown-nosing. And frankly, the "song" is enough without hearing that, isn't it? (Also edited to make the link anonymous.)

 

[diklik]

Back in the 1960s (yeah I know, I'm an old fart) radio stations played a mix. It was all there: the brillince and the crap, all in together... the folk rock, the psychedelia, the bubblegum, the progressive rock, the Motown and so on.What do we have now? At least where I live, commercial radio has become very homogenised. If I listen to any one station for any length of time, I find myslef thinking "Didn't they play that same song a few minutes ago?", and I realise no it was a different song, but the same formula. ...............So why does free-to-air radio matter? Because that's the primary way I used to DISCOVER music, and it's still the way people discover music - or rather, they would if the stations were actually offering something to take them on a journey of discovery rather than regurgitating the hit charts.

My hand is up, self-identifying as another old fart, one who worked in radio broadcasting and audio recording before moving on to other life interests. Narrowcasting is the internet technique, wherein the few paying sponsors involved are not terribly concerned with maximum reach (number of tuned in listeners) and quarter-hourly es - (more numbers). The very nature of the net allows them to instantly measure their programming appeal and effectiveness on a moment-by-moment basis. Attracting and catering to a specific interest group is the current offspring of internet streaming audio. Not exactly new, but really becoming a major factor these days.

Broadcasting - free-to-air radio - is a dying art that has become so formulaic as to be nauseating. Major corporations have purchased nearly all the independent radio outlets, and program them via satellite feeds (satellators is the term). Everything has been reduced to the ultimate in tasteless pap, ground up like very cheap minced meat thrown to the dogs. Broadcasters no longer respect any audience intelligence, and appear to have lost the ideal that they are actually supported by listeners who purchase their sponsors products.

Perhaps there are a few really good radio stations still left out there, whose owners are more concerned with taste than than the highest rating number achieved. If so, I haven't heard of them as yet. I content myself with a mix of Sirius and XM specialty stations, some internet narrowcast outlets that are prime quality, and my own collection of music.