death of music

[gb2000ie]

Mankind is still every bit as creative as it ever was. There is no global shortage of talented musicians, bands, singers, or singer-songwritters. There have also never been more way to find music in more place, and it's never been easier for musicians to share their own music without needing large corporations to help them.

The large record labels have gone to shit - but so what, they are irrelevant dinosaurs in their death-throws anyway! If you expand your horizons beyond pop radio there's a lot of rewards to be found.

Also - all that gets remembered from past decades is the cream, we rightfully forget all the rubbish that every previous generation generated too. I'm sure that in 40 years we'll be looking back with rose-tinted glasses at the great music from the 2000sies.

Bart.

 

[timrath]

My current favourite band is a band called Porcupine Tree, who I discoverd - bizarrely - by being told about them on a gay chat site. I have no idea how their next album will sound, but I have all their ten studio albums, and most of the content is pure gold.

Wow, I didn't know they existed until I read your post. Out of boredom, I looked for them in Youtube, and now I'm hooked!
Thank you so much for bringing them to my attention!

 

[diklik]

Mankind is still every bit as creative as it ever was. There is no global shortage of talented musicians, bands, singers, or singer-songwritters. There have also never been more way to find music in more place, and it's never been easier for musicians to share their own music without needing large corporations to help them.

Happily enough, all this is true - one of the significant blessings of the internet age. Anyone can be their own indie label, and release their work to the public, and get a very accurate measurement of like/dislike for any given song. Most of the new crop of singer/songwriters release small snippets or short versions of their work freely, as an inducement to purchasing the full CD albums or online downloads. With music so cheap and easy to purchase online, building one's preferred library is simple.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

Wow, I didn't know they existed until I read your post. Out of boredom, I looked for them in Youtube, and now I'm hooked!
Thank you so much for bringing them to my attention!

No problem, I just hope you have a deep wallet.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

Also - all that gets remembered from past decades is the cream, we rightfully forget all the rubbish that every previous generation generated too. I'm sure that in 40 years we'll be looking back with rose-tinted glasses at the great music from the 2000sies.

Bart.

Of course. I happen to think that the late 60s/early 70s was the single most creative period in popular music. But there is a reason why there has never been a 1910 Fruit Gum Co. tribute band.

 

[diklik]

Of course. I happen to think that the late 60s/early 70s was the single most creative period in popular music. But there is a reason why there has never been a 1910 Fruit Gum Co. tribute band.

Simon Says, 1-2-3-Red Light, and other bubblegum hits of the past. Yeah, there IS a reason why they'll never spawn a tribute band or do major touring with oldies revival groups.

 

[gb2000ie]

Of course. I happen to think that the late 60s/early 70s was the single most creative period in popular music. But there is a reason why there has never been a 1910 Fruit Gum Co. tribute band.

Maybe because everyone who remembers the 1910s with rose tinted glasses is dead or too close to it to start a band? Just a thought.

B.

 

[diklik]

Maybe because everyone who remembers the 1910s with rose tinted glasses is dead or too close to it to start a band? Just a thought.

B.

Ahhh, a little age discrimination there maybe? Well Bart, I guess that one day you too will be old. Talk then about death or being close to it. There's an old saying that goes: "every generation hates the ones before". That even found it's way, slightly altered, into a song lyric by Mike and the Mechanics. It's a truism of life in a generalized statement.

Music then is what music always is and has been..........a few very gifted and serious artists and a bunch of hacks who churn out crap. The proof is in the longevity of any given song. Bieber is a current heart-throb, but will any of his covers of other people's music last in general memory for more than a year or two? That is doubtful. Lady GaGa is a gifted artist and performer, but will she bear up under time? Who knows? Madonna has been smart enough to keep reinventing herself to maintain public awareness and an active audience, but even she is no longer a big deal in terms of current stardom. Mind you, Madonna made her bucks and achieved what she wanted, so it's fine by me that she sits back and chills, engaged in other projects.

Same with 1910 Fruitgum Co - they were hot because it was a novelty and unheard of then, so they had one multiple gold record (sales earns that no talent); and they faded from the public awareness within less than two years. The only time their songs are played on a radio station now, is as part of an oldies sweep of novelty songs. Songs generally provoke memories. If a piece of bubblegum fluff like the 1910 stuff evokes some pleasant thought in a guy's head (a love affair, a special time in his life, etc.), he's entitled to a bit of rose-coloured viewing.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

Spot on, diklik, but I assumed gb2000's comment was in a lighthearted vein. I think we all know that the band in question dated from a time considerably more recent than 1910.

 

[gb2000ie]

Spot on, diklik, but I assumed gb2000's comment was in a lighthearted vein. I think we all know that the band in question dated from a time considerably more recent than 1910.

It was meant lightheartedly, but I did assume we were actually taking about music from 1910 - which is over 100 years ago - so there may be a few people who were old enough to be into music in 1910 still around, but they'd be nearly 110 years old - which I'd argue is too old to start a band!

B.

 

[hanssolo]

The problem is, that there is more music available now than it ever was in the history of human beings. So if you don't find any good new music maybe you need to look more carefully!
Of course there is a lot of commercial music that swamps the web and the radio/TV. But you only need to scratch the surface and then there is sooo much stuff that need to be discovered!
My advice: get bitten by a vampire, so that you turn immortal and then you will have the time to listen to all the music that's around and really get an idea what's going on.

 

[XMan101]

It was meant lightheartedly, but I did assume we were actually taking about music from 1910 - which is over 100 years ago - so there may be a few people who were old enough to be into music in 1910 still around, but they'd be nearly 110 years old - which I'd argue is too old to start a band!

B.

They were an American band from the late 1960s. They'll always be remembered for "Simon Says" which is one of those dreadful annoying pop songs every decade has. Their other stuff was better, and often if you flipped over the 45 and played the B Side you got some more interesting stuff, one of the reasons I used to like collecting old singles, there were some lost treasures you'd never heard. Nowadays we're lucky, all of those forgotten songs are put on specialist CDs .

One of my favourite Dusty Springfield songs was only a B Side, the hit side was excellent anyway, but I bought the old 45 just to flip it over!

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

They were an American band from the late 1960s. They'll always be remembered for "Simon Says" which is one of those dreadful annoying pop songs every decade has. Their other stuff was better, and often if you flipped over the 45 and played the B Side you got some more interesting stuff, one of the reasons I used to like collecting old singles, there were some lost treasures you'd never heard. Nowadays we're lucky, all of those forgotten songs are put on specialist CDs .

One of my favourite Dusty Springfield songs was only a B Side, the hit side was excellent anyway, but I bought the old 45 just to flip it over!

There was actually worse than the 1910 Fruit Gum Co. Who could forget the Ohio Express singing "Yummy yummy yummy, I got love in my tummy"?
Then again, that song can probably hold its head high against the latest single by Ke$$$$$$$ha.

Which Dusty Springfield songs were they? I have a tape of a "best of" Dusty, and there are some amazing songs there, and only a couple that I can take or leave. I think "All Cried Out" is my favourite.

 

[XMan101]

There was actually worse than the 1910 Fruit Gum Co. Who could forget the Ohio Express singing "Yummy yummy yummy, I got love in my tummy"?
Then again, that song can probably hold its head high against the latest single by Ke$$$$$$$ha.

Which Dusty Springfield songs were they? I have a tape of a "best of" Dusty, and there are some amazing songs there, and only a couple that I can take or leave. I think "All Cried Out" is my favourite.

I agree, Yummy Yummy Yummy has me reaching for the off button

I have quite a bit of Dusty in various places & formats, including her first solo album (sadly only on tape) but one song I always liked was "The Summer is Over" which you may know by Frank Ifield who had the hit with it. Why her version was put on a B side I don't know. The A side (if my memory is working at this hour) was "Losing You" I think.

She did some superb songs, including a great version of the Jacque Brel classic which I can't spell (If You Go Away)

 

[diklik]

It was meant lightheartedly,

My come back riposte was equally lighthearted, and not intended as a serious slap to yours or anyone's arse. However, there are some folk out there who have serious age discrimination issues, and anytime they see a remark even in jest, they use it as fuel for their idiot fire. So I like to pop in a response as I did.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

My come back riposte was equally lighthearted, and not intended as a serious slap to yours or anyone's arse.

I'm so disappointed, diklik, I was hoping for a serious slap from you.

 

[JonnyFantastico]

I actually posted a blog about this a couple of years ago and although it's spoken from a true pop fan, I think it still sort of fits here... take from it what you will.

Is it me or is music slowly... dying out? No, it's not ever going to go anywhere; I'm aware of that. But the passion behind it all seems to be fading as days roll by. Don't get me wrong; there have been some great artists in the 27 years of my life. But as I get older, it just seems like it doesn't have the same strong hold it once did. Remember the days when you just had to run out to by the new record/cassette/CD the moment it was released? How every track seemed to be better than the next one? Nowadays, it just seems like artists out their have lost that passion they once had

Even my girl Britney seems to have lost something in the translation of the times. Her first few albums are pop classics that seem to withhold the test of time. Hang with your friends and play, "...Baby One More Time" or "Oops!... I Did It Again" and see if you don't find yourself humming along or dancing full-throttle. However, her latest effort, "Circus" doesn't really seem like it can hold up in comparison to her older stuff. There are some definite hits and great tracks on the album, but I have a feeling in ten years; the magic won't be the same.

Lately, I've found myself listening to two different kinds of music: tracks from when I grew up and artists that are considered pretty indie, even if they have major record labels. Ari Gold; an openly gay pop singer, has one of the best albums I've definitely heard in a long time. He seems to breathe a freshness into music that I haven't heard in such a long time. Also, Jon McLaughlin has one of those albums that make you stand up and take notice. He fills every note with piano funk and rock-filled soul.

Maybe it's due to the fact that when you're considered "spanking new", you push even harder to release music that can hold onto a person's ear. Every song, note and beat is filled with passion, creative edge and reminds you of a time when music was your world. Sometimes, I wish some of these "underground" artists had a bit more of a following. We need something new in the world of music... or perhaps, something old. Originality. Creativity. Passion.

We need a music revolution and the time is now. (And no, Mr. West. It's not you, even if you swear all of your stuff is cutting edge. Let's face it, it really isn't.)

Record companies far and wide, it's time for music with feeling. Stop worrying about what will be a number one hit and let these artists really dig deep and find something worth blasting throughout your apartment. In a year where the common message seems to be "change", let's bring it all back to the days when music wasn't something just to enjoy as better background noise. It was life and the beat was something to grasp onto.

It's time for a music revolution.

 

[diklik]

I'm so disappointed, diklik, I was hoping for a serious slap from you.

Well OZ, if you can get up here, I can deliver a series of VERY memorable serious slaps - with any implement in my collection that you choose to receive.:devil: I've this marvelous strap that my sub bois claim sets hellfire burning upon their rumps --- but even my right hand (leather'd and tough from age and work) is quite suitable for buddy-2-buddy chastisement.

The venue is northeastern north america, and you'd find a hearty welcome here if you drop in.

 

[ERICOOL85]

truly music has evolve into a much more commercial and superficial thing, but music does not die, even if the industry or "the man" wants to kill it, theyre a lot of good musicians and music bands who are still emotive and dedicated to what real art is, but you need to find them.
Music has evolved to the point that there is something for everyone and every kind of taste. Meaning there is a lot more, so you have more and more to choose from.

 

[gb2000ie]

truly music has evolve into a much more commercial and superficial thing

I'm sorry but you are wrong. Commercial music you hear on commercial station has indeed become more commercial. But that's not music!

I you let the record companies define music then sure - but who gave them that right? Commercial music is just a small bit very loud fish in a very very very vast ocean. IF you don't want commercial stuff - then steer away from the commercial scene and go elsewhere - your choices are really endless.

B.