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do i need to use a condom !?

titanium833

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me and my boyfriend are versatile and we are having anal six like once a week
the thing us we dont really like to use a condom , its a little annoying for bottom one .
i wanna know that if we do hiv and hepatitis test , can we have unprotected sex ? or we just have to use a better condom and forget about cheap ones !?
tnx
 

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For me - SAFETY FIRST and to answer your question, I think this all goes with a big part of TRUST. I think just for fun without condoms is not really an alternative. If you and your partner get any infections, I'm sure nobody will laugh about that. There are extry thin and skinny condoms which you might not to feel and what gives you a really natural feeling. I think you should try that and not making any experiments just for fun ;)
 
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SimplyJakeAndAlex

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me and my boyfriend are versatile and we are having anal six like once a week
the thing us we dont really like to use a condom , its a little annoying for bottom one .
i wanna know that if we do hiv and hepatitis test , can we have unprotected sex ? or we just have to use a better condom and forget about cheap ones !?
tnx
If you ask yourself the question, this is because you have serious concerns about both of you. If you want to have sex and free your mind from any possible question like such... than use a condom. Like bigbenni suggest above there's many type of condoms and it can sometime turn into a game just to find out which one you like better.

I have been 5 years with the same dude and we have anal sex more than once a week (try three) and if ever we feel that something isn't right with either of us such as, a button that shouldn't be there, flu, cold, anything that you know can be contracted easily, then we don't even think whether or not we should use a condom, we just put one and we can have sex with a peace of mind that both of us are protected. We have all type of condoms at home and depending of what we will fancy, whether he want something that he can feel, we have studs, strippes, flavoured, go NUTS. Learn to turn what you don't like into a game and you'll find out that it's ins't that bad after all.

If you were to put a ziploc bag around your penis I would understand not liking it, but no you are putting something that completely spouse your penis shape... input some warming gelly lubricant in the condom, and some normal gelly lubricant outside... that little burning feeling that you're looking for when having flesh against flesh intercourse will be simulated.

Trust is one thing, but trust doesn't prevent deceases, the anal conduct is swarming with bacteria, although most of them are probiotics, which help with digestion, when a stranger object or biological organ is inserted this will bring thousand and thousand of additional bacteria which will makes the probiotics too busy to fight those that were already in the body and making there way to infect some more. Condoms when used properly reduces all those chances of being infected. If you were to see the world from the eyes of a micro-biologist, you'd praised the condom more than god. :rofl:
 

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Once you have one of those nasty viruses, you can NEVER EVER get rid of it.
 
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hammervice

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You got to use one , just get use to it the best you can and try other types there many condoms such google it , u may find one u like...
 

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It depends on you and your friend if you both are sure you dont have sex with others and you are healthy you can have sex without but there will always be a risk so i would use it everytime
 

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the thing is this--if you and he goes get tested one day and few months later get tested again and you both are deemed negative then by all means do it without condoms if you dont want to but here lies the problem which i agree-- with others in the replies--this is only good if both are sure one isnt cheating on the other then coming home and then doing it with one another--

there are guys that post here and elsewhere that dont think any person can remain faithful to one another--only because maybe they never found that special someone that says they are the only one for them and wont whore around on one another--


so its all about trust --if you arent screwing around on him and he isnt screwing around on you and you love each other and plan on living rest of lives together then go for it but if there is any doubt in your mind that he may screw around or you screw around then but condoms and use them


i am lucky so far in my life even though my sexual encounters have been low last few yrs-- all my sex has been bareback and i am still hiv neg and i never have had any std's i am one of the lucky ones but there are alot of guys not so lucky

have fun and live life--
 
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SimplyJakeAndAlex

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the thing is this--if you and he goes get tested one day and few months later get tested again and you both are deemed negative then by all means do it without condoms if you dont want to but here lies the problem which i agree-- with others in the replies--this is only good if both are sure one isnt cheating on the other then coming home and then doing it with one another--

there are guys that post here and elsewhere that dont think any person can remain faithful to one another--only because maybe they never found that special someone that says they are the only one for them and wont whore around on one another--


so its all about trust --if you arent screwing around on him and he isnt screwing around on you and you love each other and plan on living rest of lives together then go for it but if there is any doubt in your mind that he may screw around or you screw around then but condoms and use them


i am lucky so far in my life even though my sexual encounters have been low last few yrs-- all my sex has been bareback and i am still hiv neg and i never have had any std's i am one of the lucky ones but there are alot of guys not so lucky

have fun and live life--

Well you are indeed lucky, for what I understood in your previous posts and this one you have had quite an active sexual life. Good for you:p, however has much as I agree with you, TRUST isn't the only thing... why do you thing my BF and I would put a condom when we have sex and we both have a flu or one of us has a flu... this is because your immune system is busy fighting the flu, therefore many other areas of your body are left with less protection. Yes the human body works just like a battlefield, while you're troops are busy battling at the front, you left some soldiers to defend the fort, but those are little troops compared to the one you deployed at the front field. Therefore the condom isn't just a trust object, it's a full blown protection for other diseases while the body is being busy.

Sex shouldn't be a game of Russian roulette, some have sex as a mean of work, others just for fun, fun shouldn't lead to a bad health or death. When I watch a porn flick and I see the performers not being protected, I don't really get more excited because they are not wearing protection, worst I really do feel concerned for them, because I have been in this industry as a performer/director/agent and scout in a time where things where not as secured, and even though today they have rapid tests I am still not convinced. Bacteria infect at speed of lights, as fast as your blood streams in your veins bacteria infect at the same speed. Today we have the know STDs and HIV, but hear me out, there will be another mutated version of the HIV coming along soon enough, so just like I said before, NEVER LET YOUR GUARDS DOWN. Perhaps that vaccine they'll find to cure HIV/AIDS will be the mutating agent.

Therefore, when a person has concerns about their sexual security, shouldn't you go with the safe way? That you have been lucky enough not to contract any STDs or HIV is very good and I'm glad for you, but frankly TRUST isn't enough. My job allows me to travel quite often and sometimes I'll be gone for a week, when I come back home and want to have sex with my Australian hottie, even though I know I didn't screw around, I will put a condom until we have a test that prove otherwise, and that isn't because we don't trust each other. We are so found of one another that we won't have sex with a third party unless both of us are involved (but that's us).

In his post the dude wasn't mentioning anything about screwing around, he was mostly speaking of the time period they have anal sex, which was once a week, he didn't feel safe not using a condom because of the time difference, and we know lots of things happening in your body in a week period, so yes it would be wise to wear a condom. Sex is a serious fun game and no one should gamble with it... somebody someday will loose more than their house, car, children or relationship. That day it will be too late to say: "I should have..." :cheers:
 
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It depends on you and your bf.

My Boyfriend and I both got tested negativ, since we trust each other it's not a big deal for us. Some exceptions: if he is having a cold etc.
 

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tnx everybody . i'm not really worried about hiv and hepatitis
as u know asshole is the most dirty place of body and there are lots of bacteria`s and jerms there .
im worried about the disease that we may get becuze of that bacterias !
 

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I would continue to be safe at all costs. Trusting that your partner will never give into temptation, or that he would tell you if he stepped out on you, even once...makes you a fool. It's your life, own the responsibility of doing what you can to keep it. Condoms are the best bet, even if you both test negative. There are many many kinds and brands. I would suggest trying them all and seeing what is best for you both. There are too many men not with us now, because they trusted their partners. I apologize for coming down so hard about trusting, but we're all human, and it only takes ONE mistake to affect the rest of your life.
 
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The b/f and I lost the latex more than two years ago. We both tested negative twice before even considering the move. Since then, we are healthy and have no problems and very much enjoy having sex the natural way and not under the constraints of a tube of latex. As for catching the flu or a cold or something - well we live together and sleep in the same bed. Believe me, if he has a cold chances are I'm going to get it just because we share a bed (and other things-hehe). I'm not saying safe sex is wrong or anything like that, but if your in a relationship then there are other options available.
You're not saying that safe sex is wrong but it seems that if you have let go the latex two years ago I'd say you've been together for 3 years. To me the natural way to make love is to be free to have sex with the person you love with peace of mind... and that latex doesn't remove the intensity... in fact sometimes we would have sex with a condom just for the heck of it. That you have the utmost trust of your BF that is very good and I praise that... but if you go back to Titanium's concern it isn't about trust of boyfriend... and test as much as you want, but wait it showed negative, was that one test or you keep doing it... because you do know that you can get chlamydia by sleeping in somebody's bed, or that cold sore you had by your lips, you couldn't stop touching it... forgot to go wash your hand and went to pee (therefore transferring a cold sore into an std even though you had no sex)... gotta keep testing you know :)... I'll show your ass under a microscope and you'll think otherwise. When I say that my BF and I put a condom if we have a flu or cold, it has nothing to do with the fact that one will give it to the other... I am son of a medical doctor and the boyfriend of a medical practitioner... we sure know we'll catch it because I so don't mind kissing him even if he'd had a running nose, but next time you have a flu or a cold, instead of taking your temperature under your tongue, take a rectal thermometer and shove it in your ass... the reading are more accurate... now ask yourself a question... what is the best ingredient for germs to multiply? HEAT my friend HEAT and when you are sick...your ass is boiling. Because you washed your dick before entering this area if you have a flu or cold, do you believe that it's crystal clear? :no: And here's something for you to think... when you have a cold, the cold itself isn't contagious... the GERMS are. :cheers:
 
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tnx everybody . i'm not really worried about hiv and hepatitis
as u know asshole is the most dirty place of body and there are lots of bacteria`s and jerms there .
im worried about the disease that we may get becuze of that bacterias !

In that case a condom offers some protection against amoebas and such - but not all that much. The problem with a condom is that while it keeps the germs off the cock, eventually you have to take it off with your hand. So, now any thing that was on the condom is potentially on your hands. From that point, the contamination spreads to anything you touch.

The quick and easy solution is to take off the condom in the bathroom and immediately wash your hands with warm, soapy water. If you didn't use a condom, the easiest way to prevent more contamination is to take a shower and change your sheets. Note that when it comes to these kinds of germs, the top is more vulnerable than the bottom. Although the top can easily spread germs to the bottom if he doesn't wash up.

This is even more important to keep in mind for rimming and using toys which give you even more exposure to these kinds of parasites.

At the risk of sounding like your mother, always wash your hands after playing!
 
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tnx everybody . i'm not really worried about hiv and hepatitis
as u know asshole is the most dirty place of body and there are lots of bacteria`s and jerms there .
im worried about the disease that we may get becuze of that bacterias !

A warning to readers, if you are going to read this post and have a weak stomach or a very vivid imagination, I suggest you to finish what you have in your mouth before reading this, because we’ll be talking shit, microbes, germs and so on and so forth in the next paragraphs, if you know by now my writing style you damn know I won’t be gentle with words. I call a cat a cat and a scat a scat lol.

:thinking:Is the asshole's the dirtiest place of the body? I wouldn't be so sure of that. Yes indeed the very idea that the solid waste are rejected through that conduct make you believe that it is indeed the dirtiest area of the human body, but is it really? From what I know you don't touch things with your ass, your hands comes first in contact with so much more stranger bacteria then your ass will ever be, unless you're a naturist frolicking in the wild and sitting on everything that is mushy, sticky and wet... now you're just look for trouble LOL.

No my friend the ass isn't the dirtiest part of your body (the most driven to severe germs, yes), your mouth, your hands; everything that is external with direct contact is much more dirty than your butt hole. Let's take the example of someone who doesn't brush their teeth, do you have an idea of how much bacteria is forming within minutes from a single piece of celery stuck in between your teeth. That 10 times the bacteria you'd have in your ass. However, the bacteria coming from the ass are highly infectious and can indeed create severe diseases. When colliding with external germs, the germs already present in your colon mutate into super germs and that’s how diseases are created.

I'd say the dirtiest part of your body starts with your hands, some would say the mouth, but the mouth does have natural defenses against bacteria (I’m not mentioning “intelligent design”, but it is designed to withhold the load) but I can guarantee you that the hands and the mouth comes way before your asshole. Hands are dirty because most germs travel on them more often than you go potty. My dude Alex who is a registered nurse could confirm to you that the infection control practiced in hospital always starts with the hands. Here's a day in the life of Alex when he was working at the hospital... wake up, shower, eat, wash hands (note he just took a shower, but because he ate with his hands he'll wash them again), drive to work, arrive at work, wash hands, before entering the room of a sicko, he'd wash his hands, then wash them again after he left the room. Leave the hospital, wash his hands, arrive home wash his hands (then kiss me:p) next before to eat quick shower... then he finally can relax and I can finally get dirty with him (literally):rofl:. So no, your asshole isn't the dirtiest area of your body.

Now on the topic… Don't go nuts with bacteria, because as bad as they are, they are accustoming your body to fight them. The bacteria you have in your ass can be well removed for the most with a good old soap and water. The best advised is when in doubt use a condom. Because here’s something for you to think about… disease are not contagious, germs are.

Here’s a serious misconception that many of my straight friends believe, they believe that the ass is full of shit. REALLY:thinking: the idea they have of people practicing anal sex is that we are pistoling our penis in a fudge concoction, while in fact the fudge is far far back in your colon making slowly but surely its way to your anus. A good digestion process takes pretty much six hours to be completed, so what you defecate today isn’t what you have ate a hour before, unless it was very rich in fibers and your system judge that it needs to be immediately rejected. What you’re often cleaning when performing an enema is about 5 to 6 inches of you canal; you’re cleaning your colon walls, which normally would keep some particles of feces which often will be rejected by the next bowel movement. Yes I know we’re talking shit… but somebody has to. :rofl:

Now can you tell which part of your body is more protected against external germs?
 
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Listen to jaketoronto2004. His analysis is clear and precise. As always.
Years ago, I got a bacterial infection, while paying attention to the common rules of hygiene. The doctors said that the cause was almost certainly a handshake.
After I remembered that some time before, while I was eating a sandwich, I met an acquaintance at the bar to which I shook his hand. That person had just been in the toilet. Probably not washed his hands.
I had problems for a month.
Even the WHO has dedicated a day worldwide at the problem of infection with the hands.
 

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If you do want to play Rubber Free, you might want to get your self a Hepatitis B jab.

Apparently it is free for guys in the UK if you tell your Doc you are gay, otherwise you have to pay for it.

Or best still, just wrap it up! :)
 

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TRUST The FINAL frontier.

With all the accurate tests, cornucopia of condom selections,

* ask, test, wrap *
Easy as 1,2,3
The life you save may be your own.
 

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… Don't go nuts with bacteria, because as bad as they are, they are accustoming your body to fight them. The bacteria you have in your ass can be well removed for the most with a good old soap and water. The best advised is when in doubt use a condom. Because here’s something for you to think about… disease are not contagious, germs are...

All very true - a good discussion of the role of bacteria in the body. "Germs", can mean a lot of things though, so just to clarify, my advice to titanium833 is particularly directed towards prevention of parasites. These are single-cell animals that do not ordinarily occur in the body, but can hitch a ride and be passed along with anal contact. They can make you sick for weeks (or longer) if they get passed along to you.

Parasites enter the body through the mouth, not the cock. They get to your mouth from your hands (which you already pointed out is a rendezvous point for lots of foreign material). So any time you touch your cock after anal sex (whether it's covered in a condom or not) you risk passing the critters to your mouth, unless you wash your hands.

Of course, this is only true if you are having sex with someone who has the bugs living inside them. Unfortunately, as with most of these diseases, you can't tell by looking who has them and who doesn't. If you develop a habit of always washing your hands right after sex, you will be unlikely to pick these things up.
 
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