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Dragon Age: Origins -my little review

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Wow, I didn't know about this at all, awesome, thank you! Heh, all this talk made me start playing it again, and vaguely in the spirit of this forum, turns out that you can, as a male, sleep with that noblewoman's son in the human noble origin, which was news to me. Totally pointless, really, but nice flavour, even so. Also, I can't help but like Loghain on account of his voice actor, heh
 

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Well, maybe we'll get lucky, here, what with EA being as rich as an evil company ought to be. Er... I think that's a point in favour of it getting finished? How funny it feels saying something *nice* about EA. Assuming they have any control whatsoever, and it's not all on Bioware.

But yes, more to the point, this pleases me. One of my biggest irritations with the original campaign was the lack of *any* conversation from any of the darkspawn at all, despite them clearly being sentient (the evil little chuckles when they hit you in combat and such), so yeah, good. I wonder what a brood mother would say... also, seems like that poor Tervinter magely type woman is doing the Joining. Morrigan's replacement, perhaps?
 

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Or you can be bi -but it takes a lot of gifts! ;) Yeah Orzammar was okay, but I didn't like the fade --too boring in terms of the environments. Orzammer was pretty okay though.

Remind me who is Owen and how did he hang himself -I am not good with focusing on minor characters or side plots.

If your a rogue and good at pickpocketing, and practice it a lot though you can get lots of interesting side quests. There must be so much hidden in the game -each of us can only really access half of it, and even that's a strain.

Owen is the blacksmith in Redcliffe village. If you don't find his daughter in Redcliffe Castle, he will kill himself and he replaced with another.
Ok I found out the diligence set isn't atleast one of the best so yes I would miss it always :)

Which 3 are you going to make?
*Female mage (almost done, make Anora queen, accept ritual, stay with Alistair foreverrr)
*Female noble rogue (want to marry Alistair and become supreme queen :D)
*Male noble warrior (need to romance Morrigan for trophy and I want to be king!)
 

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That's a very good point... didn't they start seriously thinking about/start designing Origins only shortly after they released Baldur's Gate 2? Or did I imagine that... well, in any case, I daresay it shows in the amount of little details the lore of the world has, and it makes it enjoyable to play, I'm appreciate that fact a lot more, now, replaying it. Also, I'm being an evil bastard, this time, and enjoying it greatly. And so is Morrigan, apparently.

Heh, and as to faces, I got sick of fighting with the facegen sliders, and just downloaded one I liked, 'cus I'm lazy and uncreative.

On a semi-rambling note, I hear the books give a lot more depth to Loghain, and apparently (potentially, at least) paint Flemeth as something of a magnificent bastard. Anyone read them?
 

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Oh yes, and they cover why Loghain hates Orlesians so much, and Maric driving them out of Ferelden and getting the throne, and Duncan being recruited to the Wardens, and all sorts, apparently. Incidentally, I've since learned the talking darkspawn in that trailer is in one or both of these books. Seems like the plot gets more complicated all the time : 3

See, I was wondering about the experience thing myself, since Wynne stuck around for a while, and then got pissed off when I did the bastard option with the Ashes. It was like "Damn you old woman, give me back the xp and items!" Hehe, and one of the codex entries for the village you find Shale in which I can't quite recall the name of... the village council speaking about decorating 'the statue'. I missed that the first time. It's good for a giggle, heh.

I think it depends on how you play it, and... well, how stupid you are ¬_¬ I sucked the first time I played it, had difficulty in easy, and that was as a dual weapon warrior, which was perhaps a mistake. I think I ruined my build optimization by putting far too much in cunning and dexterity instead of strength. Played it like a rogue, stupidly. I'm finding being a mage *much* easier, possibly because it's more difficult to make truly bad decisions, perhaps? Or maybe I've just gotten lucky, hard to tell.
 

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I am not a fan of this game and still don't know why it is such a grat success??
 

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And thank you for that, I did indeed go with Arcane Warrior (and then later, Blood Mage as well), and it seems to work a charm, though I usually relegate to blowing stuff up regardless. I'm not so good with the strategy thing. My only beef with two handed weapons is how unbearably slow the style seems to be, but that makes sense, so. And... hang on, don't you get to pause the game in the X-Box version then?

Also... are you not a fan of it because of the genre, or is it the game itself that somehow bothers you?
 

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Wow, I totally missed those. And I've finished now ¬_¬ I don't know *how* I took 57 hours the first time I played, let alone the second, when you typically go faster. But oh well, I think I'll play it again until I get everything, I s'pose. And it *is* a bit horrible, I admit, but that's the fun of role playing: be a malicious bastard in your fanstasy life so you don't have to be in real life... er... or something. Heh, I also did it *without* going to the Circle of Magi, so poor Isolde didn't survive. Although to be fair, I found the woman dead annoying.

I wish they'd release Return to Ostagar, too, for that matter. Unless they did today, and I missed it, which would be typical. Something to tide us over until Awakenings.
 

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Well said, yes, I think that's it, exactly. You've done all the grunt work, and gotten used to the controls, and the setting, and the balance issues and what not, so you can take in the scenery, as it were.

Heh, yeah, I was incredibly greedy and gave my main character all the tomes of arcane... er... whatever it is. I don't actually like leveling that scales with you, really, I think it damages immersion a bit, but I realise it's near impossible to make the game playable when you're either squashing everything effortlessly, or literally incapable of progressing. Maybe it's just rose tinted glasses, but I think Baldur's Gate 2 did quite well at that, it scales, but there's a helluva lot of difference between, say, two mummies and a lich where you'd have found shadows and wraiths at lower levels. But yeah, the extra spells give you a nice little edge, like that.

I confess to being unaccountably soft... I didn't intend to be nice to Wynne at *all*, but she's too damn grandmothery for her own good. And when she collapses in that cutscene, it was very much an " : O Oh no!" moment. Heh, and, of course, having the party hasted certainly helps.

The fun thing about the time between now and its release is that we get to think of all sort of wild, baseless conspiracy theories about the plot, so yay. I wonder if it'll be like Mask of the Betrayer... you know, darker and all that. Which would be quite something, given the setting. I hope the new companions are well written. I'd rather have only a few companions who're well written instead of a lot with the depth of a puddle.
 

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I'd tend to agree with you, actually, although, that said... while I'm not a fervent lover of Morrigan, I DID like that the writing was either... really inconsistent, or really subtle, regarding her... ah... "pragmatism" and how it affects her personality. Like, the fact she's all "Flemeth was right to be utterly horrid to me about the mirror" and then turns into a teary eyed schoolgirl if you buy her a mirror. I just found it a nice touch. Yes, she's a bitch, but she's in denial about the level of bitchery she's descended to. Or... something. I dunno. I think it shows in the friendship track, too. She sounds like she's going to cry when she says her goodbye to you in Denerim. Oh, also, now that I've done it, I actually very much like the Secret Party Member, as they call him. It just pisses me off you can't keep Alistair and him.

*sigh* Did they HAVE to release it the same time as Mass Effect 2? Though, frankly, given the sheer amount of fuckery I've had to do to get THAT bloody game to work, I'll probably turn back to Dragon Age soon, anyway. There just aren't enough hours in the day ... ¬_¬

And speaking of utterly useless archery... is it just me, or does archery seem far more deadly when used AGAINST you? Perhaps it's the superior numbers of enemies, but come on.
 

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That'd be it, yes. All about preparing the field, as it were. Though in some cases, that's not really feasible, Or I suck XD Either way, really. And yeah, the ammo is way too much. That doesn't really help. If I recall, decent arrows were too damned expensive in Baldur's Gate 2, as well.

Heh, I downloaded the dagger fix like... a day or two after the game was released. My problem was purely that I tried to play one class as another, and it flat out failed miserably, heh. And you say that, funnily enough, I *have* my third playthrough waiting for me - a human noble, rogue - and you're pretty much describing how it'll be fun, what with the poisoning everything in sight. Oh yes, on that note, I like that the dialogue reflects your choice of class, at least in that particular Origin. Your nephew asking if you'll teach him how to make poisonings, and his mother protesting. I found it vaguely amusing. I haven't really thought ahead, beyond "I shall poison things a lot", so expect me to complain about how awfully I do with it soon enough, heh.

I suspect Alistair's part will be more cameo, sad to say. Really, I hope I'm wrong. I actually quite liked Ohgren (Oghren?) because of the way he hit on Wynne, so... yeah, I'm easily amused. I'm really not sure who it could be, to be honest. And... we feel the same, I think. I quite like Zevran, if only because he's damned amusing, but Alistair would've been a *much* more interesting option for a male/male romance. Think of the lategame drama it could cause if you put him forward for the throne. Especially if you make him agree to a marriage of convenience with Anora. Tsk, so much untapped hilarity. I'm tempted to do a female huan noble playthrough so that I may put myself forward as potential queen. Apparently you can do that, and make Alistair your king. Or vice versa. I didn't want to read too much and spoil myself.
And I rather like Morrigan, I just think her morality regarding the quests was a bit tacked on, purely to emphasise the "she's not a purely nice person" thing. I wouldn't call it pragmatism so much as pointless bitchery in a lot of cases. On the other hand, threatening priests IS fun : D

I haven't got it yet, no, because I've been drawn into Mass Effect 2 despite myself. Bloody Bioware, taking my money and my hours. Mmm.. and you're saying pretty much what I feared: that'd it seem a bit of a cop out. I read that its' only really worth it if you're interested in the colour of the setting and such, and more of Cailen. Thankfully, I *am* into the backstory on account of being a hopeless nerd, so I'm still all for it. A poignant ending, you say... ? Very interesting. I'll download it before playing any furthur with my current character.

Heh, I approve of that approach. I'm a wee bit simplistic in that it gives me soaring pleasure to electrify things to death. I know it won't happen, I *know*, but if we're hoping... I hope they do something like the Wild Mage from Baldur's Gate 2. Magic accidentally summoning hordes of rabbits? Dropping a cow? Turning your hair neon green? Simply causing explosions? Call me a masochist, but the amusement outweighs the frustration.
 

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Fitz, I think they've sold a million copies --if there was a way to get him into the sack, someone would have it on youtube. The photo is not conclusive...

What possible motivation would I have to lie about my previous post? yes they have sold a million copies, but probably 95% of them just play it as the rules are set. I usually don't, as I find it very entertaining to meddle with the game and see what changes I can make. No the photo isn't conclusive but I don't know how to record video from the game onto youtube (otherwise i would have posted the whole 'in the tent' scene) and the current charecter I have it enabled on is currently clearing the Circle of Magi, and Allistair doesn't think it's approprate to shag in the Circle Tower lobby with Morrigan,Sten and the Templars watching. (such a prude...)

How do you find the game generally? Only another six weeks until Awakening hits the stores!

eh It's fine I s'pose, the deathblow cinimatic-esque animation I got on the duel wielding rogue was surprising but definatly fun to watch.

As I mentioned before it is possible to get Allistar to shag a guy but it does involve meddling with the game as he's really not intended to shag a guy. Also I reiterate that I haven't finished the game so I have no idea if doing this will break your games or bugger up the end bits/options or whatnot.

In order to get this to work you need to enable the developer console (i run on a pc so i have no idea if you can enable it on other platforms) and use the runscript zz_app_debug command to enter the Approval Debug Helper Script and edit the relationship flags for Allistar to Set Romance eligible.

I do know if you meddle with the flag of any of the people before you meet them in the game it will screw with your game in that they may not activate any inital cutscene that would normally happen.

For example if you meddle with the romance flags of Allistar before you meet Allistar is Ostagar, the cutscene with the mage he's antagonizing with never happen and the game will be stuck there (unless you do more meddling with the debug dcripts)

Also if you meddle with Allisatr's Romance flags after you let the cutscene happen but before you reach Lothering when you talk to allister he acts like Duncan is dead (since the romance would not feasibly be possibly until after you reach Lothering and finish the prelude section of the game) which is slightly rude from Duncan's point of view..

So if you are going to do this, I suggest you make a save right before you start meddling and accept that you are forcing the game to do something it's not intended to do (well for a male protaginist anyway) and wait until after you reach Lothering to enable the romance flag.
 
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Heh, I suppose it ought to make him referring to a male character with female pronouns damn amusing, really.
 

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After the hassle I've been having with Mass Effect 2, I'm extremely tempted to go the rapidshare route, as you put it. But, yeah, the price isn't too horrific, like I was expecting. Pretty much par for the course as expansions go, which is good. I'm typically used to hearing about horrific greed, these days. I wonder if I'll be able to just toddle along to HMV on the day and find a copy... s'what I did with Origins, and that worked out pretty well.

Also... alas, acceptable frame rate. I knew ye well. Heh. It's silly, but I'm very much looking forward to the rain. I just... like weather effects in games.
 

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Guys, I've been reading your comments about Dragon Age Origins. Don't you use any of the mods from here?

Anonym zu www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/

Click on the "Browse Categories" link, you'll find a myriad of items, spells, armours, skins, etc to add to the game.

If you don't, you seriously need to start. I've just finished playing through it with all types of these mods installed and nothing seemed to bork my game. You just download the ones you want and happy sex cutscenes .... or nude skins .... or better armour. It's an endless list to enhance the game.
 
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Guys, I've been reading your comments about Dragon Age Origins. Don't you use any of the mods from here?

Anonym zu www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/

Click on the "Browse Categories" link, you'll find a myriad of items, spells, armours, skins, etc to add to the game.

If you don't, you seriously need to start. I've just finished playing through it with all types of these mods installed and nothing seemed to bork my game. You just download the ones you want and happy sex cutscenes .... or nude skins .... or better armour. It's an endless list to enhance the game.

I haven't played this in quite some time now, but I recall just browsing through some of the mods on offer at bioware social...

When you say spells... are you saying that a mod can create a brand new spell/ability, or simply alter/boost an existing one? :thinking:

In any event adding too many mods might spoil the experience or make the game too easy --or at least that's the temptation. Are there mods that could make the game much more difficult I wonder... this would be especially useful in the case of the Awakening exp., which was far too easy (as a few people here have already said... either here or maybe in a thread we might have had on Awakening).

Anyway, thanks for the link and your input....

:)
 

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Eh, i tried to get into the game, but i can't. I guess I'm just too busy right now to play a complicated game like this. I dunno, maybe I'll give it another try next year.
 

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I have to say that I enjoyed quite a bit DAO and all, even though I still wanted to pair up with Alistair instead of the assassin. The mods that made him look my hero as a woman took the fun since I felt like he was treating me like a lady boy u.u jk xD DAO2 looks way hotter, cant wait to try it out... eventually.
 
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