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How do you feel about porn with actors who have died?

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I noticed a Denis Reed thread is still active. How do you feel about porn with an actor you know has died?

For me recent porn becomes a no-no. But I have wanked to a hot guy in old photo claiming to be from early 1900s and I assume they are dead by now.
 

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If you have issues watching dead guys fuck, then stay away from anything "vintage". 95% of the gay porn actors active before 1990 died in the early days of the AIDS epidemic.

I grew up in those days and since this was before the internet, many of the stars that I was pounding it to in magazines and VHS tapes were already dead, but with no internet, I had no way of knowing. I didn't find out they were dead until many years later. Porn star obituaries weren't exactly front page news back then.

So I've basically jerked of to dead guys my whole life, why should I let it bother me now?
 

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There is definitely some kind of link between sex and death, especially gay sex.
 

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There is definitely some kind of link between sex and death, especially gay sex.

While it's true there's a basic conceptual link between sexual reproduction and individual death, the idea that there's some kind of important link between gay sex/sexual pleasure/wanking/porn and death, is the kind of link given the name: the romantic interpretation of the christian doctrine of Sin.

Or if you want to get at the historical roots of this "link", read St. Augustin De Civitate Dei, book XIV.
 

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It's weird but I still get horny when thinking of certain porn models even after knowing they're dead. Like I still watch King B's scenes and City Boi's scenes even though both have passed away. They were sexy men and their work is out there forever, with some of King B's scenes coming out after he had already passed.

Some may find it wrong and it's unfortunate that they died so early in their lives, but at the same time they were entertainers that provided a good for some of us. You wouldn't stop being attracted to a famous singer or actor after they passed away, would you? The fact that someone was nude in front of a camera and did something they enjoyed doing shouldn't be looked down upon just because they're no longer with us. I guess it all depends on how one views life and death.
 

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I have big difficulties understanding why there should be any special problem watching porn actors who passed away years ago, decades ago...

I mean I regret that Scott O'Hara - one of my biggest favs in gay porn, not just because of his big fat schlong but even more so because of his great mischevous smile and of his intellectual brilliance as a writer and publisher - passed away because of AIDS in 1999, just 38 years old, but why the consequence should be that it would be wrong to watch his movies - well, I just don't understand why...

Sooner or later, every single one of us will end up dead, and we'll stay dead for - like - eternity. That's just the way life is...
 

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It's actually pretty cool that their youth, their energy, their beauty has been captured forever.
 

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Thanks to all the responses. It has been interesting getting the viewpoints of others from outside of myself and my immediate peer group.
 

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I suppose if the person is dead then watching a video of them is going to be a little tinged with sadness.:thinking:

I sometimes get a little sad even watching a mainstream movie with an actor I know has died -especially if they died prematurely.
 

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I suppose if the person is dead then watching a video of them is going to be a little tinged with sadness.:thinking:

I sometimes get a little sad even watching a mainstream movie with an actor I know has died -especially if they died prematurely.

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:
 

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[...] before the internet, many of the stars that I was pounding it to in magazines and VHS tapes were already dead, but with no internet, I had no way of knowing. I didn't find out they were dead until many years later. Porn star obituaries weren't exactly front page news back then.

So I've basically jerked of to dead guys my whole life, why should I let it bother me now?

Ruthlessly blunt, but quite true! :cheers:

As others have said, at least their work was captured, preserved, and likely to be available on the internet for eternity. There are worse legacies than being wank material for thousands of fellow gays: when it comes to the truly god-like iconic performers, their video work is the closest many of us would ever realistically get to having sex with someone like that.

Of course I'm saddened whenever I hear of a performer's premature passing. It was especially sad losing so many to suicide a couple years ago (Arpad Miklos, Wilfried Knight, Roman Ragazzi, etc). During a wank, it crosses my mind now and then that they're gone, but I dismiss it to focus on the joyous sexual energy they put on my screen. What other choice do we have, really, and how better to honor them?

On a more crass, practical note: styles of filming, sexual interaction and body appearance change every few years- sometimes radically. If the older porn weren't available, or we were too squeamish about dead performers to view it, some of us would have nothing to wank over (the recent tidal wave of guys covered in tattoos, with hair in a man-bun? Blecch! X_X )
 

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Some respectful distance helps. It would be uncomfortable to jerk off over someone who died recently. Looking back though, it's nice to remember them as they were. And they were beautiful, exceptionally beautiful men. Worthy of our desire and admiration.
Where I have a problem is watching young gay men making a mess of their lives, live, on camera NOW. As in watching the 'sketchy' stuff. And similar porn.

It's somewhat erotic. But it is also a little sad.

It's pie in the sky I guess to wish a happy ending for everyone, even in fantasy/life.
 

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If you start from the position that porn is something to celbrate rather than to be ashamed of, then this becomes the same as asking how you feel about paintings by dead painters, sculptures by dead sculptors, and music by dead composers and musicians.

We have no problem celebrating the work of dead artists, why would we not do the same in this case?

B.
 

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If you start from the position that porn is something to celbrate rather than to be ashamed of, then this becomes the same as asking how you feel about paintings by dead painters, sculptures by dead sculptors, and music by dead composers and musicians.

We have no problem celebrating the work of dead artists, why would we not do the same in this case?

B.

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::thumbs up::thumbs up::thumbs up:

Only two words: VERY GOOD!
 

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And what if a pornstar has comitted suicide?
 

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And what if a pornstar has comitted suicide?

My appreciation for the greatness of Nirvana did not stop when Kurt killed himself. Smells Like Teen Spirit is as great as it ever was!

I don't feel I can't laugh at Patch Adams anymore because Robin killed himself.

Great work is great work, and it should be appreciated for what it is.

Suicide is always tragic, but in my eyes it becomes even more tragic if the people's work is hidden away after their death out of some kind of perversion of 'respect'.

B.
 

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I think of them as sexy gorgeous ghosts, my favorite being Lee Ryder, what a hot man.
 

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If you start from the position that porn is something to celbrate rather than to be ashamed of, then this becomes the same as asking how you feel about paintings by dead painters, sculptures by dead sculptors, and music by dead composers and musicians.

We have no problem celebrating the work of dead artists, why would we not do the same in this case?

B.

Yes! :agree::agree::agree: so much with this post. Why should porn be treated as something to be ashamed of? It's a form of entertainment that a lot of people enjoy. Thank you for providing this decent argument.
 

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My appreciation for the greatness of Nirvana did not stop when Kurt killed himself. Smells Like Teen Spirit is as great as it ever was!

I don't feel I can't laugh at Patch Adams anymore because Robin killed himself.

Great work is great work, and it should be appreciated for what it is.

Suicide is always tragic, but in my eyes it becomes even more tragic if the people's work is hidden away after their death out of some kind of perversion of 'respect'.

B.

I could not watch scenes with Leo Cooper because I know that the porn was reason for the suicide. I also don't watch scenes with Zac Stevens or Jasper Robinson.

It's not even a "moral" thing that I don't, I just don't do that, they don't turn me on. There are also pornvids and pics with Luca Rocco Magnotta and other murderers, I don't watch those either. Or Johnny Rapid, who is known for domestic violence against his girlfriend.

I also don't compare Leo Cooper or Zac Stevens to artists like Kurt Cobaine or Robin Williams.

And the studios still show and earn money with their scenes.
 
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I could not watch scenes with Leo Cooper because I know that the porn was reason for the suicide. I also don't watch scenes with Zac Stevens or Jasper Robinson.

It's not even a "moral" thing that I don't, I just don't do that, they don't turn me on. There are also pornvids and pics with Luca Rocco Magnotta and other murderers, I don't watch those either. Or Johnny Rapid, who is known for domestic violence against his girlfriend.

I also don't compare Leo Cooper or Zac Stevens to artists like Kurt Cobaine or Robin Williams.

And the studios still show and earn money with their scenes.

A lot of people want to blame these death on porn, but I just don't believe that. Porn is not the disease, it's a symptom.

Porn attracts damaged people. They were damaged before porn, some may have thought porn was a way out of whatever situation they were in, but found it wasn't.
I don't think it's so much of a "I've sunk so low" as it is "I've tried everything including porn, but I feel the same"
 
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