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Johnny Rapid arrested for beating and chocking girlfriend

W!nston

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Well I would say it's 'tit for tat'; you guys convicted him as a woman beater based on "allegations" in a newspaper story about an event only partially described in a police report. Talk about pots calling kettles black...

BUT - I still love you gb :heart:

:)
 

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Well I would say it's 'tit for tat'; you guys convicted him as a woman beater based on "allegations" in a newspaper story about an event only partially described in a police report. Talk about pots calling kettles black...

And the police report!

Also - I didn't generalise to all men or all women at any time.

BUT - I still love you gb :heart:

:)

Ditto :)
 

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Anyone who has ever read what gb has written in different kinds of legal matters in other threads knows, that he's a strict and upright defender of the judicial doctrin of innocent until proven guilty, and anyone who insinuates otherwise is a damn liar and up to no good.

But what has been piling up in this thread isn't that pornoboys should be considered innocent until proven guilty, but rather that the proof is totally without importance because all women are liars - so let's blame the victim...
 

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May I ask if anyone, other than myself, has ever had his ass kicked by a woman? If you are attacked by a woman who is equal is stature you have 3 choices:

  1. Get your ass kicked into submission or until you are beaten unconscious
  2. Run away as fast as you can hoping she's not a faster runner
  3. Defend yourself with physical resistance
There are always at least 2 sides to every story. What I said about Johnny's girlfriend was meant to counter all the hating that was being heaped upon Johnny without any thought that he may be innocent. In my opinion that comes pretty close to ignoring the principal of 'innocent until proven guilty'.

That being said... like many people in general and many commentators in this thread... emotion does jump in and shape my words. So if my words sounded like I am a 'sexist' or what-not I apologize because that is far from the truth. I believe everyone should be treated equally and fairly. But I think that is a discussion that deserves it's own thread.

AND - I still love you too gorgik :heart:

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Please, Sniffit, this ISN'T about what any woman has or hasn't done to any man for some unstated reason anywhere and anytime.

It's about wheather the porno boy did or didn't do to his girlfriend what he's accused of, yes or no.

Law is the science of the singular; not: does witches exist? Everyfuckin'body in 16-17th century Europe AND North America believed in the existence of witches. The LEGAL question - not the theological - was : Are there enough valid proofs that this accused woman or accused man really are what they are accused of being?

The fundamental reason why so very few human beings got executed by the catholic church in Spain, Portugal and on Sicily and Southern Italy is that the inqusitors in those countries and regions cared about scrutinizing the proof.

What happened in regions where judges succumbed to the dreadful legal doctrin of crimen exceptum (let's say Germany, Scandinavia, England and Scotland), i.e. the doctrin that some specific crimes are so horrible that full proof can't be considered necessary, can't be described as anything but human disaster.

Now pornoboy isn't accused of any form of crimen exceptum; it's the total other way around - the accusation is accused - without any proof - of being invalid. And "we all" know why...
 

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I'm confused. I must have missed the part where Johnny gave his version of the events. Could someone share a link to that report because I haven't had a chance to read it.

My point is that 'pornoboy' may or may not be guilty of some or all of the charges but so far the only version of events shared in this thread or in the news is the newspaper article that cited a police report. Sometimes those reports prove to be only part of the facts and defendants are sometimes found innocent.

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I'm confused. I must have missed the part where Johnny gave his version of the events. Could someone share a link to that report because I haven't had a chance to read it.

No one gave any side apart from the impartial police report!

Somehow, some here have conflated the impartial police report with 'her side', and frankly the leaps to do that have been where the sexism has come into it.

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Well, that explains it all, doesn't it? The police report. Ah, yes. Would that be the same sort of report from other incidents the police were called upon to write a report? I mean the police, well, they are always impartial, fair and absolutely unbiased. Those same sort of instruments of police observations void of influence from an alleged victim who is making her case to the police in order to vilify the opposing party in the tussle. I believe her voracity without reservations. Don't you? I mean why would a jealous woman exaggerate and embellish her version of what happened?

I want to wait until I hear both sides of the story before I convict him. But that's just silly old me ;)
 

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I want to wait until I hear both sides of the story before I convict him. But that's just silly old me ;)

But you didn't - you used some horrible stereotypes to blame it all on her!

You are right that not all police reports are perfect, but to imply that no police reports should ever be trusted is taking things to a ridiculous extreme.

Also - the snark does you a disservice.

B.
 

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Maybe you're right. Maybe he is a villain. Maybe she is a saint. Maybe my suppositions were over the top. But I'm not a sexist. I'm someone who has relevant experience with physically abusive women. Maybe you have never been in the cross hairs of a jealous woman but I have. Maybe you've never had to choose between getting the shit beat out of you or fighting back only to be accused of 'hitting a woman'.

So forgive me if my feathers got a little ruffled. This story strikes a little close to home for me.

But I still respect your opinions.
 

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But I'm not a sexist.

I know you're not.

There are very few actively sexist people left in the western world - thank goodness!

But despite the fact that there are very few sexists, there is still quite a lot of sexism. Most if it is not intentional, it's accidental.

We all make flash judgements about all sorts of things, and we almost never know why at the time. It's only when others nudge us to do a little self reflection that we realise that we've subconsciously picked up some biases that express themselves when we act on impulse.

Sometimes it's because we have limited personal experiences with a given group, and sometimes it's because our only experience with a group is through some kind of selection effect.

In Ireland there are lots of ethnicities which are very uncommon - you could live here for a decade and meet only one Sikh. There are ass-holes in every culture, so imagine you got unlucky and the one Sikh you interacted with happened to be an asshole. Your brain LOVES finding patters, but with limited data, it often finds and stores false correlations. Your brain, because of how it works, could easily link being an asshole with wearing a turban just because your only interaction with a Sikh happened to be negative. You have just become subconsciously and accidentally prone to making racist snap judgements. You're not a bad person, but if you act without thinking you might do something racist by pure accident.

As for the selection effect - imagine you are a white cop in a neighbourhood that is predominantly of a different race to the neighbourhood you live in. The crime rates are identical in both communities - both low. So, in your home life, you probably meet very few criminals. In your work life, by definition, you meet LOTS of criminals. Most of the non-criminals you interact with are your race, most of the criminals you interact with are a different race. THe reason is a selection effect, the crime rates are identical in both hypothetical communities remember. Our brains could easily make the false correlation between race and criminality purely because of the selection effect at play, turning our hypothetical cop into a potential accidental racist.

We're all human, our brains all work the same way, and we all register false correlations that create our internal biases. Those biases do not make us bad people, or racists, or sexists, or homophobes, or anything like that. They just make us POTENTIAL racists, and POTENTIAL sexists, and POTENTIAL homophobes. The difference between good people and bad people is whether they STRIVE to rise above their biology, or just go with the flow. Even with the best will in the world good people will fail from time to time.

I realised some time ago that I had become accidentally racist against people with bible-belt accents because most of the anti-gay hate speech I heard was uttered in that accent. Turns out there are lots of really good people who ALSO have that accent, and who I was unfairly dismissing as ignorant idiots just because they had the misfortune of sharing an accent with some assholes! I now know I have a tendency to that bias, so I can do my best to stop myself from acting on it.

The reason I point out stereotyping when I see it is because I rely on others to point it out to me when I do it. I need people to do that so I can become aware of my biases, and override them. We all need people to do that for us if we want to be fair and balanced in our opinions about the world and those we share it with.

Sorry if that's a little deep for a porn board, but as someone who often falls victim to people's accidental homophobia, I take the fight against stereotyping seriously.

B.
 

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He's back, he's done four new scenes for M3N, due to be released soon.
I did not miss him and I've come to despise tha shitty studio.
 

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out side of his creepy personality, he definitely is the most overseen and boring porn star!!!
Dont understand why Men is still using him
 

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Perhaps somewhat begrudgingly, I have to admit I've come to a degree of respect for Rapid. Too twinkish to ever be my type, he nevertheless has achieved a visibility and longevity that many a daddyish hunk I've slobbered for never amassed.

But I don't worry too much about Rapid's well-being.

Notwithstanding some of the workouts we've seen him get on screen, it's my hunch his every co-star treats with Mr. Rapid with kid gloves. To do any harm to this guy, even accidental, I suspect is to gamble away one's remaining days in the majors.

Their obvious beloved mascot, and with the clout that goes with it, I have no doubt when Mr. Rapid tells Men a given idea is further than he wants to go, it doesn't happen.

Certainly I don't like everything Men offers, but they've still got my beloved Colby Jansen, Paddy O'Brian, the rising Bennett Anthony, Dirk Caber, a good deal of Connor Maguire and Colby Keller, and Landon Conrad, Trenton Ducati, Jack King and Sebastian Young have left good work there, as well as all the new stuff from Jarec Wentworth in the past year. If I have to occasionally deal with a Rapid clip to get those other guys, I can do it.
 

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It is odd that Johnny has become the "beloved mascot" of gay porn. It does attest to his acting skills.
But I suspect he's near the end. Unless he moves to Kink.com and really gets it rough. That would be fun to watch.
 
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