Puff the magic dragon lived by the sea

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

That's Emma Shapplin

 

[hawtsean]

OPERA AND ART SONGs AND CLASSICAL STUFF

Jake, I believe you started this thread. Not sure if possible, but if you click on it and try to edit, you might be able to change the thread title to something more suitable for discussion of our mutual musical tastes.

yeah a thread on classical music and chant wouldn't be such a bad idea... or we can just keep chatting about it on this thread.

I don't see a reason not to continue in this thread, since it really lived out its usefulness reminiscing about Puff. My own tastes include everything from late 1950's R&R, through Motown R&B, thru some of the better disco and other stuff, and of course various classical composers, opera and operettas and baroque art song. Eclectic, to say the least. As a fun pass-time, I often lend my talents in technical areas of audio recording to several local opera companies, to capture and preserve their performances.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

Opera is the one classical format that I don't have much time for. I might like certain individual works from operas, but an opera as a whole work seems a bit too contrived.

A few years ago I went to a performance of Debussy's opera Pelleas et Melisande, mainly out of curiosity since Debussy is my favourite "classical" composer. I cannot say it converted me to opera. I found myself thinking this was nice music that I would like to hear in concert, or even to play - but I found it hard to engage with the plot, which seemed from the synopsis to be extraordinarily convoluted.

 

[XMan101]

it's rare to see a black dude enjoying those kind of music

Don't forget one of the great opera singers is black - Jessye Norman! The great boogie woogie pianist & singer Fats Waller had a lot of classical music in his personal collection, so I don't think race has anything to with appreciating classical music.

The subject gets swamped by more popular culture, especially on forums like this, but many from all walks appreciate it. It takes more work to listen to, and that's why many do reject it, but the famous bits always prove popular.

The UK's first national commercial radio station was a classical music station. It plays it like a pop station and has proved to be a big success over the years. The purists don't like that, but they forget that going way back live concerts were full of excerpts from big works.

I rarely listen these days as I just don't seem to get the time to just sit and listen to a complete work but in the past I used to love to explore that side of music, everything from Dvorak to Puccini.

My favourite opera is probably Lucia di Lammermoor by Donizetti. It's one of the few that I'd say is accesible to anyone, no boring bits

By the way, Jake I fixed your You-Tube clips. Only use the part of the link AFTER the = sign

 

[hawtsean]

Opera is the one classical format that I don't have much time for. I might like certain individual works from operas, but an opera as a whole work seems a bit too contrived................... I found it hard to engage with the plot, which seemed from the synopsis to be extraordinarily convoluted.

It's often that way, OZ. I've listened to many opera performances and been involved a bit with the staging (tech stuff) of a few of them; and if it weren't fior the music and the incredible art and talent of the performers, I would be bored senseless. Most operatic stuff is the work of composers many generations ago, and they needed to fill time on the stage in order to give the audience about 3 hours of show time - hence the twists and turns and convolutions of story line. If one takes all of that out and just presents the principals on stage to sing the arias, an average opera thus circized would last about an hour at best.

 

[hawtsean]

it's rare to see a black dude enjoying those kind of music

Don't forget one of the great opera singers is black - Jessye Norman! The great boogie woogie pianist & singer Fats Waller had a lot of classical music in his personal collection, so I don't think race has anything to with appreciating classical music.

Got to chime in my total agreement here. Scratch almost any of the great Motown R&B studio musicians and some of the writers and composers of multi-million selling hit records, and they had a background of classical music training. William Robinson (Smokey Robinson) is a good example. His arrangments (he composed and arranged many of his hits) are chock full of classical figures and flourishes played in different keys and tempi.

'Nother example in a different way - Procol Harum's hit record "Conquistador" was recorded live with the Edmonton (Canada) Symphony Orchestra in 1972. They simply put the charts in front of the musicians and did the song straightaway with little rehearsal. Gary Brooker who wrote the music of that piece, was classically trained in piano. The band, BTW, is still touring and is playing in various cities in Denmark this summer.

 

[Tiamar]

I love this song and I also heard about this but don't mind. It is beautiful.

 

[hawtsean]

I love this song and I also heard about this but don't mind. It is beautiful.

:? what are you posting about, which song?

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

it's rare to see a black dude enjoying those kind of music

Don't forget one of the great opera singers is black - Jessye Norman! The great boogie woogie pianist & singer Fats Waller had a lot of classical music in his personal collection, so I don't think race has anything to with appreciating classical music.

The subject gets swamped by more popular culture, especially on forums like this, but many from all walks appreciate it. It takes more work to listen to, and that's why many do reject it, but the famous bits always prove popular.

The UK's first national commercial radio station was a classical music station. It plays it like a pop station and has proved to be a big success over the years. The purists don't like that, but they forget that going way back live concerts were full of excerpts from big works.

I rarely listen these days as I just don't seem to get the time to just sit and listen to a complete work but in the past I used to love to explore that side of music, everything from Dvorak to Puccini.

My favourite opera is probably Lucia di Lammermoor by Donizetti. It's one of the few that I'd say is accesible to anyone, no boring bits

Totally right, however I was raised in a village were everyone was expecting me to become a rap star :rofl: How disappointing for them hahaha.

By the way, Jake I fixed your You-Tube clips. Only use the part of the link AFTER the = sign

Thank you! I took note of it... actually I have to find the real version not the Karaoke crap LOL.

 

[Tjerk12]

When I was a teenager (I am born in 1946) we listened to Dave Berry, The Beatles, The Stones and Elvis. But notwithstanding my friends I liked very much Hildegard Knef, Juliette Greco, Jacues Brel, Vera lynn and The Dubliners. My absolute favorite song was Astrud Gilberto, the girl from Ipanema. Growing older I started to like classical music. First Maria Callas, and later on (still my absolute favorite) Aafje Heijnis, a Dutch alt with a beautiful voice. I have one cd from her. There is not a day that I do not play a song of her. It makes me feel happy. I have also a cd from Emma Shapplin. Actually I have little knowledge of music. Especially, since I have no sense of rhythm. It is that strange tickling somewhere in my back and stomach that tells me that a song (or music) is beautiful. I think it is the passion of the performers which touches me. When I am “home alone” I put a cd in the player and play the music very loud. It is magic for me. Not for my sons. When they hear me listening they are complaining: it sounds like the firing squad is passing by!

 

[hawtsean]

My absolute favorite song was Astrud Gilberto, the girl from Ipanema.

Ahhh, that brings back some fine memories. I was in my early teens in 1964 when that song hit the airwaves, and it opened up my ears and mind to music other than the Beatles and R&B. I began to listen to jazz and other-world rhythms from South America and the earliest stuff coming in from Africa that was recorded in England.

 

[Shadow]

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I have always loved this mainly because it sounds so sad. Then when Juan Diego Florez did it, my world was complete, such a marvelous voice and so good looking.

 

[Shadow]

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Going back to the original thread. This is one that I always remember from children's radio, I'm still looking for that mountain
I always found Burl Ives voice very comforting.

 

[hawtsean]

I always found Burl Ives voice very comforting.

Indeed, Burl Ives was one of the first American folk troubadors and started a style and genre not matched by many to this day.

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

Ahhh, that brings back some fine memories. I was in my early teens in 1964 when that song hit the airwaves, and it opened up my ears and mind to music other than the Beatles and R&B. I began to listen to jazz and other-world rhythms from South America and the earliest stuff coming in from Africa that was recorded in England.

The Girl from Ipanema is a classic song that unfortunately has been ruined for me by hearing the music played once too often in bland instrumental form, as the soundtrack to those awful endless ads that used to be shown in the cinema, between the trailer and the main film.

When I was in Brazil in 1979-1980 I was stunned by the amount and the depth of the homegrown musical culture. there is a lot more to it than just samba and Bossa Nova. there is a lot of jazz influence, particularly what used to be called "fusion jazz" - and I think the influence has been in both directions.

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This really is getting further and further away from Puff, isn't it?

 

[hawtsean]

When I was in Brazil in 1979-1980 I was stunned by the amount and the depth of the homegrown musical culture. there is a lot more to it than just samba and Bossa Nova. there is a lot of jazz influence, particularly what used to be called "fusion jazz" - and I think the influence has been in both directions.

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This really is getting further and further away from Puff, isn't it?

Indeed, Brazil, among other South American countries, has always had a very progressive musical scene along with using the latest technology to perform and produce entertainment.

As for the thread itself, Jake began it I believe, and since he's content to let the topic sorta be hijacked, no reason why it shouldn't continue. I wonder if it's possible for Jake (the thread starter) to edit the thread title to something more appropriate?

 

[SimplyJakeAndAlex]

As for the thread itself, Jake began it I believe, and since he's content to let the topic sorta be hijacked, no reason why it shouldn't continue. I wonder if it's possible for Jake (the thread starter) to edit the thread title to something more appropriate?

No I don't have that kind of permission, but in a way it is perfect as it is because the thread is about the songs that marked your soul when you were younger, so anyone that knows Puff, will make a quick stop and see that hey we are not just speaking about Puff in here, and for the others whom just knows Metallica will learn that there's more to music than hard rock (Although I love Metallica) And Asshole (Axel) Rose from Guns & Roses. One of the all time melodie from them was indeed November Rain.

I was among the crowd when Asshole Rose raised his middle finger on a stage in Montreal saying in bold "Fuck You Montreal". If Axel have knew a little history from French Canadian he would have learned that we know what "Fuck You!" means which translate very much like (Allez toute chier ma bande d'ostie d'caves) :rofl:. That day it took everything to be able to get out of the theater and run to safety because Montreal did not like it at all and a quick riot had begun. Axel has been banned from entering the soil of our beloved Island... and I'm pretty sure he got a little scared himself:waiting: As for James Hetfield from Metallica they had some pyrotechnics issues and they blamed the stage technicians etc etc... In all and all it started very good but end up being a nightmare it was in 1992.

 

[hawtsean]

No I don't have that kind of permission, but in a way it is perfect as it is because the thread is about the songs that marked your soul when you were younger, so anyone that knows Puff, will make a quick stop and see that hey we are not just speaking about Puff in here

If desired, Jake, I believe that one of the Mods would be able to edit the Thread Title. Perhaps a quick PM to XMAN101, or GYPSY, who are often here during the day, might get some assistance on that. Again, if desired.

As for Axel Rose.......**."il est vraiment fou, b'en bête en tabernac' ". Their music's okay, but their collective heads must have been up their asses.

**{Quebecois joual translation into English for those who wish - "he's a real god-damned nutjob"}

 

[jeansGuyOZ]

Any admiration I may have had for Axl Rose (correct spelling) as an artist evaporated when I read that he has an interesting habit of turning up for his stage appearance at approximately the time at which it is scheduled to finish..... the reason being that he needs time to "warm up his voice". It does not seem to have occurred to him that perhaps he should be doing that in his own time, not the time in which he is expected to be on stage and is paid to be on stage.

What next? Turn up an hour late because you went to have dinner, since you can't perform on an empty stomach? Oh please.

 

[KCinLA]

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Puff the magic dragon.

The first song I recorded off the radio.
Could play it back as often as I wished.

Now a days that is stealing copyrighted works.



OMG ! :angry:

Kevin