I said in my post, I'm not terribly concerned with convincing you out of your pre-conceived opinion. It was glaringly obvious how you would react to anything I linked to here, so no, I didn't sacrifice much of my time to give fuel for your flames or standards which I don't share. The article however does cite sources and studies; there are many out there. My name is not google, but if you go to google and type in something like "tatoo toxicity" you'll find interesting things that you can judge for yourself. I believe in self-education, not the conservative hierarchy of academia where people believe the burden is on others to do their research for them. You disagree with what I said, and don't share my concern for health or the hazards of chemicals, and you wanted to have a fun rant. Good for you. Where are your sources? Your lab studies? No, just repeating the words of tattoo artists that sold you their services was sufficient for you. So, I'll leave you to it.
Interesting side-stepping away from my question to you. You, ritsuka, claimed to have sources that clearly indicated the toxicity of tat inks. I wanted to know that in a genuine search for that knowledge. Instead, all you provided was a link to opinion-based editorialism, no do
ented studies or laboratory findings. The burden of proof is upon you, or at least upon those proffering their opinions to back up their words. I merely challenged all of the sources you provided, calling it bullshit for lack of real proof.
You appear to take umbrage when someone doubts what you say, which is sad. The whole idea of commenting and civilized debate is to increase knowledge. I questioned the source you provided, not your zeal to offer info. Quoting internet fluff is certainly not proof of anything, other than the ability to copy and paste links. I asked for proof, and all you said in your retort was to google the topic. I did and found more of the same rhetoric, all of it veiled insinuations that inks "might" contain toxic properties, but again no actual studies. With the availability of assay services in any moderate to large city, it's interesting that none of these writers have actually put tattoo inks to the test. That absence of proof stands out glaringly. The only "glaringly obvious' point is that you have chosen to rest upon unproven statements of others. Merely quoting what you see on the internet does not advance your point. I accept that you believe what you say - I have no quarrel with that. But since it's unproven in all your references, then what you believe is merely an opinion without basis. Oh yes, and on your assertion of reliance upon self-education....therein lies the downfall of your entire argument. You appear to NOT want the actual truth, whatever that may be; since you might have to admit that someone from academia has the knowledge you require. To disavow actual learning and scientific knowledge in favor of conjecture, seems to be a common habit these days. Good luck with that. I'd love to see someone take that position (reliance soley upon self-education) when they are faced with a technological need. They come running for help to someone, unlike them, who has gained knowledge from the academic world and then puts it into practice. The very hierarchy of academia, which you devalue, is where research begins, not, as you assert, where the burden is placed upon others. But, you seem to have an idée fixe towards academics.
Well, maybe those inks are dangerous and maybe they aren't. My local research is just as valid as your non-research. One counters the other, in an endless circle until someone, somewhere, actually does a chemical assay of at least one particular tat ink and determines the contents. Until some type of validated results are produced, the whole accusation of ink toxicity remains an unproven urban myth. My opinion is always ready to be altered, based on truth - not innuendo or conjecture. Provide some real data to validate your position and I will certainly have to agree. Since you made the point of declaring that tat inks are dangerous, the burden definitely rests upon you to prove that. I'll just sit back and await that moment.,
Of course, you always have the ability to withdraw and pout, as you seemingly have. If you can link to actual and validated proof of the toxicity claim, I truly wish to see that. Until then I won't bother to kick this around further.
