Let's do some dissing!!!
The point of departure for most posts in this thread has so far predominantly been appreciation, liking something.
But now it's time for some fierce disliking!!!
However, I think I'll have to start with an excuse to haiducii and all our followers in this thread...My hope was that I could give you a download link to an episode of a reality show TV series about the porn site Br0k3 Stra1ght B0ys released from Here TVPremium, but I talked to our mods and the answer was very polite but negative. I had already prepared for this outcome, so I'll have to give you a text-only post without download links. It's a pity but watching the TV episode isn't absolutely necessary to follow my argument.
So what is it all about? I'll talk about the absolutely central founding question dominating the reality TV show about this porn site with alledgedly Broke and Straight boys : - Are they REALLY straight? Not only super-straight but super-duper-super straight? Like 157.34% straight? That's the Nobel Prize-worth question, wouldn't you agree...
It is important for me to state, that I'm NOT into critizising the boys in this TV series. Most of them are cute and sexy (Kaden Alexander being my fave...) and most of the seem to be really sweet. I don't think I'm even critizising the porn site Br0ke Str41ght B0ys either, but what I am critizising and as harsh as seem fit is the Here TV series, and in particular it's viciously heteronormative rhetoric that binds it all together. It's vile and vicious.
Polygraph and confusion
For those of you who can get hold of the TV series on your own, it's episode 5 ("Someone's Gotta Go") the most relevant parts begin at 14min 27sec and from 20min 34sec.
This episode is, among other things, about the porn site owner Mark Erickson's and operations manager Shannon Prewitt's decision to hire polygraph analyst JP Page from Denver to do a Polygraph test - popularly known as "lie detector test" - on the studio boys.
When the test is over, Prewitt's comment is: "- So we got straight guys in this house?"
JP Page seems to be a serious scientist who doesn't promise something his method can't handle and guarantee, and his chilling reply is: "- It's not something we can necessarily test on the polygraph."
He goes on to explain that the polygraph can only test human reactions on hard behavior, but not desires and emotions. You can test the reactions to :"- Did you eat French toast this morning?", but you can't test :- Do you LIKE to eat French toast?".
Or to make my own - gorgik's - expansion: you can do a polygraph test on me on the question: "- Did you eat haiducii's ass last night?", and the sorry true answer would be - nooo...
The equally true answer to the question "Would you LIKE to lick haiducii's ass?" is - Yesss you can bet your sorry ass that I would!; but the only meaningful method you could use is to ask me. If you start a polygraph test on questions of desire and taste, your not being "scientifical". Your being stupid. Plus using a quasi-scientific rhetoric.
Some porn site history
But let's talk a bit about the Br0ke Str4ight-history. You can find the realevant basic facts on this link :
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Actuall I was quite a fan of the site as it was let's say from 2007 to spring 2011. I'd say thet the most important difference between what you could see in the porn on the site 2007-2011 and what is reflected in the TV series is the monomanaical concentration on this "Are you REALLY straight"-question.
Let's talk about model Anthony Torn and hic cousin Mike (or Mikey or Michael...)! The first time Anthony appeared on the site was 4 August 2007 and he soon made several more episodes. But the truly interesting thing was when his cousin Mike - a couple of years younger than Anthony - came to the site on 25 october 2008 in tandem with Anthony; they started telling their story and - had sex with each others.
But it's even more interesting and anti-stereotypical! Mike was a total homo, while Anthony had been a ladies man since quite early, i.e when he didn't have sex with his younger homo cousin, who had an impressively long fat schlong and was much more of a top than bisex/straight cousin Anthony. Mike and Anthony made many, many episodes - sometimes together, sometimes apart with one, two or three other guys. They were popular.
This was maybe the most complex incest/cousin-story, at least that I know of, on the Br0ke Str41ght-site. But there was quite a lot of other examples of guys who didn't fit the Super-Duper stereotype during these early days.
Homophobia Americana
In my opinion it's necessary to remember, that this TV series is produced and got its audience in USA, a society with a level of public, official homophobia which is something quite different from most countries in Western and Northern Europe.
Of course I'm NOT saying, that Sweden and Denmark ever has been some kind of homo paradise, and much if the same homophobic shit hit the politic fan in the Scandinavian countries as in Britain and the US in the 1950s.
But - and this is a very important memento - gay men and women were NEVER formally made second rate citizens as they actually, factually were in the US.
There were these deplorable fiercly homophobic desicions on the political top level, who's sum consequence can't be described as anything else than gay citizens having been made second rate - Formally! Officially!! Publicly!!!
First there was the exclusion of gay male and female soldiers from the social benefits in the GI Bill, through the policy desicion in the Veterans Administrations in 1945 stating, that any soldier who had been administratively discharged as undesirable "because of homosexual acts or tendencies" must be excluded from the benefits program.
Next there was the McCarran-Walter Act in 1952, meaning that alien citizens trying to enter USA while afflicted with "psychopathic personality" (=homo) must be prevented from entering or remaining in the country.
As the
third stepping stone, president Eisenhower's Executive Order no 10450 from april 1953 stated that anyone employed by the US federal government must be sacked if having commited one single homosexual act.
So if the local police in Yoknapatawpah County, Mississippi, finds that a 19 year old janitor employed by a federal institution in this County had a single wank together with another janitor - then off with both those janitors.
Remember that wanking janitors are a grave danger to freedom and democracy, and the natural allied to you-know-who! (And you bet that so sayeth the Holy Scripture...)
Eisenhower's Executive Order wasn't formally repealed until 1975.
But what is a homo, anyway? And what does straight mean?
No, no I'm not answering these questions. I'll do something way more meaningful and important - I'm going to put the very question in question.
I'll follow historical-conceptual analysis of the modern concept of homosexuality in David M. Halperin's study
How to do the History of Homosexuality (2002).
The word "homosexual/ity" was coined - just like the word "heterosexual/ity" - by the German-Hungarian writer Karl-Maria Kertbeny in the second part of the 1860s.
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But the word isn't the problem. The problem is the very complex modern
concept of homosexuality, which according to Halperin's analysis is a combination of at least three distinct and earlier un-related concepts:
First a psychiatric notion of perverted or pathological
orientation, derived from German psychiatrist Carl Otto Westphal and his 19th century colleagues, which is an essentially psychological concept that applies to the inner life of the individual
and does not necessarily presume same-sex sexual behavior;
Second a psychoanalytical notion of
same-sex sexual object-choice or desire, derived from Sigmund Freud and his co-workers, which is a category of erotic intentionality
and does not necessarily imply a permanent sexual orientation, let alone a deviant or pathological one;
Third a sociological notion of
sexually deviant behavior, derived from 19th- and 20th-century forensic inquiries into "social problems", which focuses on non-standard sexual practice
and does not necessarily refer to erotic psychology or sexual orientation.
"Homosexuality" is at once a psychological condition, an erotic desire, and a sexual practice - and those are three quite different things.
Or to put it in other words - a
straight man is considered to be the opposite of the homosexual man. The problem is, that straight can be the opposite of many different opposites:
Sometimes straight is the opposite of effeminate( the opposite of the contrary sexual feeling good old Westphal talked about in 1869) hence: masculine.
But another time straight is the opposite of same-sex sexual object-choice, hence : your choosen sexual object right now is opposite-sex. You're a man hot for ladies right now.
Another time still, straight is the opposite of deviant sexual behavior, hence: your sexual behavior is the one considered normal. But remember - up until the early 20th century only procreative sex was considered normal. And procreative is no synonym for heterosexual. Don't make that all too common mistake!!!
Today we live in the age of Michael A. Hoffman
http://www.gayheaven.org/showpost.php?p=1952709&postcount=54 and Sporno
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And here endeth this too long lesson...