To Norway at this moment of sorrow

[Whisper]

My deepest condolences to Norway, I'm totally speechless, in shock.
Are there any Norwegians here? I hope you and your loved ones are safe.

With love from Finland,
Whisper

 

[777]

It looks devastating and the attack on the youth camp.. leaves speechless.

 

[Whisper]

It looks devastating and the attack on the youth camp.. leaves speechless.

Something beyond my ability to understand, I really can't find the words

 

[gb2000ie]

For those of us just reading this thread - what happened?

B.

 

[Whisper]

For those of us just reading this thread - what happened?

B.

I took this from yahoo (you can find the whole text here :

http://anonym.to/?http://news.yahoo.com/norway-ripped-oslo-bomb-youth-camp-shootings-185204240.html )

OSLO, Norway (AP) — Norway's peace was shattered twice Friday when a bomb ripped open buildings in the heart of its government and a man dressed as a police officer gunned down youths at a summer camp. Police linked one Norwegian to both attacks, which killed a total of at least 16 people in nation's worst violence since World War II.

 

[gb2000ie]

I took this from yahoo (you can find the whole text here :

http://anonym.to/?http://news.yahoo.com/norway-ripped-oslo-bomb-youth-camp-shootings-185204240.html )

OSLO, Norway (AP) — Norway's peace was shattered twice Friday when a bomb ripped open buildings in the heart of its government and a man dressed as a police officer gunned down youths at a summer camp. Police linked one Norwegian to both attacks, which killed a total of at least 16 people in nation's worst violence since World War II.

JEEBUS - that's awful

My deepest condolences to all affected in this horrible tragedy

B.

 

[XMan101]

It appears the man arrested was a right wing extremist against multi-culturism and minorities.

Sadly these individuals get everywhere and are an unknown unpredictable quantity. Sounds like he was working alone.

What makes it worse is that it's not something expected in a country like Norway, which I don't believe has ever had any sort of terrorist attack before.

Very sad indeed.

 

[garth33]

Absolutely horrifying and unneccesary...my condolences to all the victims in Norway. It seems like a lot of us from MANY different places can get along here without trying to hurt anyone else...we just talk and have fun and make friends. Kind of like the playground when you were a kid....maybe GH is a relic of the past AND a model for the future? - Discuss

peace
g33

 

[Whisper]

It appears the man arrested was a right wing extremist against multi-culturism and minorities.

Sadly these individuals get everywhere and are an unknown unpredictable quantity. Sounds like he was working alone.

What makes it worse is that it's not something expected in a country like Norway, which I don't believe has ever had any sort of terrorist attack before.

Very sad indeed.

I'm reading about Norway's tragedies at this moment and I'm more and more shocked. Our neighbor today, tomorrow us or Sweden? No safe place in this world?

This suspected guy's facebook page is actually still open, wikipedia has already an article about him...

I'm just staring at those headlines...

Absolutely horrifying and unneccesary...my condolences to all the victims in Norway. It seems like a lot of us from MANY different places can get along here without trying to hurt anyone else...we just talk and have fun and make friends. Kind of like the playground when you were a kid....maybe GH is a relic of the past AND a model for the future? - Discuss

peace
g33

I agree: GH should be a model to the future Lots of different people from different places learning to get along with each other. I truly hope that this would be possible in the outside world some day, but...

 

[slimjim]

Well here in the UK we are no strangers to this kind of atrocity, with the massacres at Dunblane, Hungerford and Whitehaven and the USA too at Columbine but the sheer scale of the carnage in Norway is staggering. The BBC are currently reporting 84 killed on the island and 7 in the bomb attack in Oslo.


So shocking, so sad.






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[Whisper]

Well here in the UK we are no strangers to this kind of atrocity, with the massacres at Dunblane, Hungerford and Whitehaven and the USA too at Columbine but the sheer scale of the carnage in Norway is staggering. The BBC are currently reporting 84 killed on the island and 7 in the bomb attack in Oslo.


So shocking, so sad.






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So true, unfortunately. All those events around the world makes me wonder how cruel a human can be. Am I being too pessimistic when I believe that eventually we destroy this world and ourselves?

 

[blast27]

It's possible to plan for all sorts of things, but not for a person who is simply crazy. I don't know how any person could get to be so angry. It is beyond sadness that so many young people should loose their lives so needlessly on an island in Norway. Today our thoughts must be with their families and the people who loved them.

 

[slimjim]

It's possible to plan for all sorts of things, but not for a person who is simply crazy. I don't know how any person could get to be so angry. It is beyond sadness that so many young people should loose their lives so needlessly on an island in Norway. Today our thoughts must be with their families and the people who loved them.

I agree with you, but I'm not sure he was crazy... I'd say cold, calculating and callous. Manufacturing a huge bomb and during the mayhem and confusion that caused in Oslo he catches a ferry to the island dressed as a policeman. And reports from eye witnesses say when he got to the island he called for people to gather round him... then he started shooting.

Latest reports are saying he is a right-wing christian fundamentalist.

...

 

[gb2000ie]

I agree with you, but I'm not sure he was crazy... I'd say cold, calculating and callous. Manufacturing a huge bomb and during the mayhem and confusion that caused in Oslo he catches a ferry to the island dressed as a policeman. And reports from eye witnesses say when he got to the island he called for people to gather round him... then he started shooting.

Latest reports are saying he is a right-wing christian fundamentalist.

...

How can those be the actions of a sane person? You HAVE to be mentally ill to be able to do that to fellow human beings.

I think you have to be some sort of sociopath or psychopath to be able to do this. Everyone gets angry, we all experience injustices, and we all see things done in our countries that we vehemently disagree with - but none of us here hatch, let alone carry out, bomb plots and shooting sprees!

B.

 

[777]

I agree with gb2000ie, there has to be something wrong with the person who does something like this. Though if I think about it as a whole, I think the lack of true alternatives in the politics, since all the big parties do one kind of politics in reality (economic liberalism) at least here in Europe, raises xenophobic issues in the centre of things instead of the real political issues (especially economy), and the more helpless people feel about not being able to do anything to change the course of politics or life, in general, the more they turn to extreme measures. Right wing politics also rely on individualism, in good and bad, so if you don't succeed in life or are in a bad spot it's your own fault, and it's a difficult place to be. Plus poor getting poorer, rich richer... the times are "good" for both political radicalism and fundamentalism. It's been in the air in Scandinavia too, since the welfare states are crumbling with the current politics and people are looking for someone to blame. In the end, they're probably thinking they're fighting for their country and "race" which is wrong in so many levels that there's not enough words for it.

(I'm leftist and not happy with current politics, in case you didn't notice )

 

[Whisper]

I just read about a rumor that there were two shooters on the island, the other one they haven't found yet and the rescuers are wearing bullet-proof vests there. I'm repeating myself but this is so shocking and terrible.

And about the shooter being insane somehow, I agree. That kind of cold-blooded behavior is not sane.

You simply cannot tell when someone's mind has had enough. I keep on thinking the incident here couple summers ago when a man was just cleaning his boat. Suddenly he takes a gun and comes to our town's market place and opens fire. Luckily this happened in the evening, at day time the market place is filled with people, still he manages to kill and injure. And if my mom, sister and I would had gone to a shop instead of heading home, we would had been in the middle of the market place with him.

 

[777]

I just read about a rumor that there were two shooters on the island, the other one they haven't found yet and the rescuers are wearing bullet-proof vests there.

They haven't found him yet!?? They were talking about the second shooter who wasn't wearing a police uniform already in the morning but I somehow thought they've caught him too. Him being still on the loose is a scary thought.

 

[Tjerk12]

A right-wing Christian fundamentalist?
Def. of a Christian fundamentalist: a Christian who believes that the exact meaning of every word in the Bible is the true meaning. So this man should follow the sixth Commandment - You shall not kill/murder -. He didn't.
For me he is a deeply disturbed person, who unfortunately has a lot of skills. There are more of those idiots, worldwide.

 

[gb2000ie]

777 brings up an interesting point about politics, but one I don't agree with. If you have a fringe opinion that is not shared by others then, in a democracy, your government should not be doing what you want, it should be doing what the majority wants!

If you hold a fringe view you should not be discriminated against, your free speech should not be silenced, but you should not expect to get your way unless and until you can talk a majority over to your opinion. It's not a failing in the political system that an extremist did not feel the government was doing what he wanted!

B.

 

[777]

I'm listening to the reports... there's no certainty of other participants. The kids are saying the gunman continued shooting for an hour and a half, walking around smiling. Just when they thought it was over it started again, and again. He was wearing a police uniform so people thought he was coming to help and then he opened fire.