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Why do we all like st8 guys

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Why is it that we all like st8 guys?

Is it their sense of humility,

is it their in touch with femenine,

Could it be their masculinity,

Possibly their softness and hardness
why do we like st8 guys?
 

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I'll thank you to not make assumptions about who I like!

My personal preference is for a guy who is happily and proudly homosexual, and is also masculine.
 

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I have to agree with jeansGuyOZ. I'm attracted to the person: what he thinks, what he feels and not his sexual preference.
 

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I'll thank you to not make assumptions about who I like!

My personal preference is for a guy who is happily and proudly homosexual, and is also masculine.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! for saying this..I could not have said it better....:cheers:
 

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Because there are so many of them! Odds are, you can get one oh them to crack and expand their horizons a bit. ;)
 

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i just get turn on by straight guys being forced to get fuck by a gay guy... in gayporn im always into str8 ones and imgine that i was the gay ones on the scene... anyone do the same thing? or its just me...
 

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i just get turn on by straight guys being forced to get fuck by a gay guy... in gayporn im always into str8 ones and imgine that i was the gay ones on the scene... anyone do the same thing? or its just me...

Maybe not just you - but it's certainly not me. I have no wish to force somebody to do something they don't want to. It may be a porn fantasy, but if it was real life I would consider it a form of oppression. Gays have been oppressed for decades,, but that doesn't mean we should retaliate by oppressing others, or even fantasise about oppressing others.

I don't want to get too heavy about this, but this is something that has bothered me for a long time about porn. Most countries draw a clear distinction between violent and non-violent erotica - "violent" referring to depicting someone - usually a woman - being humiliated or forced to do something against their will. I would argue that what's being talked about above falls into the violent category. It may not be physical violence inflicting physical damage, but it's a form of subjugation.
 

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I'm not gay, have been happily married for years, and have grown kids. Throughout my life and career, I never considered myself homophobic, nor prejudice against any color, race, origin or preference. I've traveled the world for business and have friends of all flavors; a number of which are gay or lesbian. I never felt a physical attraction to any of them....

.... but one day about two years ago, a situation arose (I'll spare the details here) and a guy sucked my cock. That was the beginning of a life-changing experience, albeit my secret.

Why do I write this? Perhaps not everyone who is straight (or believes he is straight) is 100% straight.
 

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let me be frank in those post. i feel like i'm unique cause, not only do i like guys but "i hate girls".

i hate it how "weak" girls are, they're so weak they are "protected". laws are established to protect them, but for the guys? none, we have nothing to protect us. and girls may use this against us.
i hate how "bitchy" girls are, they just sometimes toy with a guy's heart.
i hate it how "conceited" girls are, they feel like they're stronger than men, when they're actually weaker. they think they're better than men, when they aren't. they think they "run the world" when it's actually men who's making it possible.
and i hate it how "sensitive" they are, that in movies, it's men who die for the sake of women. how men sacrifice while women just cry and do nothing. how men blame themselves when it's clearly the girls fault.

i think it's a bit prejudiced, so i'm not gonna say that this applies to every girl in general. every girl who fits the description is a different genre, since not all girls are like this, and also i have girl friends who are contrary to this list's description.
 

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Since str8 guys are still more common to find than a gay or bi one, I guess I could find myself falling wrongly into a crush with someone str8... and also because I do tend to like masculine guys.
 

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I know I tend to fall for straight guys cuz they have this masculinity and sex appeal that some gay guys just don't have (in my opinion). It could also be the whole forbidden fruit, wanting what u can't have stuff
 
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Maybe not just you - but it's certainly not me. I have no wish to force somebody to do something they don't want to. It may be a porn fantasy, but if it was real life I would consider it a form of oppression.

thats just the thing, lots of fantasy vids out there that act out the rape or forced sex between a gay dude and supposedly str8 dude. maybe those are bad becuz they incite that thinking, and thinking can lead to action? dunno if so, but if there are laws against doing those vids with females, maybe gay producers should think twice about it.
 

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... I have no wish to force somebody to do something they don't want to. It may be a porn fantasy, but if it was real life I would consider it a form of oppression. ...

Whoa! This discussion got way more interesting.

I think in one post you cut right into the middle of the basic human contradiction.

  1. We are animal, instinctual, creatures - adapted for a kill or be killed world where everything is stacked against us.
  2. We are civilized, social beings with a sense of morality and justice that has allowed us to swell in numbers but work and live cooperatively.

Freud called it the ego and the superego. St. Paul called it the fleshly nature and the godly nature.

Whatever you call it, we have a part of us that is wild, and wants what it wants. But another side of us keeps the wild side in check by adding a layer of reason, empathy, and morality.

I don't think that anyone can argue against needing "our better angels" (as Shakespeare called them) informing our actions and decisions and as we learn to treat people better.

But... that doesn't make the animal go away - it's still there and it manages to sneak out. The most obvious example is dreams - there the primal nature can run free. There are no "shoulds" and "shouldn'ts" as the imagination spins and twists and pokes into all the dark corners we keep locked away during the day.

I don't think many people would judge someone for their dreams. You can't control that.

Sex is an area that also seems to slice right into that uncontrollable primal nature.

My personal theory: Just like in music and art, I think the people who do sex best are the ones that have the ability to let go and free fall into some of that messy wildness. They don't completely abandon control - there are boundarys and love and safe words and a sense for what is appropriate at what time. But they know how to tap into that animal pulse in themselves and in their partners.

So, back to jeansGuyOZ's point, should we ever really let the tiger out of the cage? We know that rape is wrong - but what if we really just want [insert name of porn star here] to grab us and tie us up and just treat us like the sluts we know we are?

(Oops... did I just say that out loud?)

Is that just feeding the beast that we should really be taming? Have we evolved beyond that?
 

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because they represent that idea of a mr. right... of a guy's guy/man's man... the typically are what i think most gay men desire in a man. that kinda crass and masculine behavior... plus they tend to be really sexy since they dont care how they dress.. and i often find that gay men who try too hard and are too trendy aren't as sexy as a man in a plaid button up shirt with his sleeves rolled up and in some relaxed fitting blue jeans, slightly unshaven... i'm sorry what was the question..?? lol
 

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"Why is it that we all like st8 guys?" you ask.

When I see a guy in the street whom I do not know and feel a certain 'attraction' toward him it makes no difference whether he calls himself gay or straight, it is just a physical attraction.

If I get to know a guy and like his personality then, again, it makes no difference whether he is straight or gay.

Perhaps a more fitting question to ponder would be 'Why are all the guys I like the look of (frustratingly) straight!'
 

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Is that just feeding the beast that we should really be taming? Have we evolved beyond that?
Some good points there - but if I may just respond to this last sentence - yes I think we have. All of us, myself included, occasionally feel like doing something like hitting somebody when they make us angry, humiliating them when we have some grievance against them, etc., but how we act on those feelings is the measure of us. Some of us do what we want to and say fuck the consequences... but most of us say "this is another human being like myself, with rights and with feelings, so I need to keep myself under control." And yes I do sometimes lose control and do the wrong thing, I am certainly no saint, but I do make the effort to treat others properly.

Now before someone jumps up and says "Yes but we are only talking about porn fantasies, not real life acts", yes that's true, but when people see something happening on a screen, many times over, they are desensitised; they start to feel this is normal, this is the way people act, and it's acceptable. I am quite certain the same thing happens with porn. Over the last few years I can think of many times when a guy has said something like "Oh yeah man, suck that dick" and pushed on the back of my head, and I swear that kind of talk and action has been picked up from watching porn movies.
 

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We like straight guys because we like guys, full stop. (Or 'period', as the Americans say :) )

My secret theory is we like straight guys because we are irresistibly attracted to what we cannot have. We hope that, after a bit of drink, they might allow us to do things, or that one day they might 'discover their secret gayness' but they don't. They just remain straight.

On an external level, the present obsession with image and the metrosexuality thing, has made them even more body conscious (up to about 15 years ago, the province of the gay male). Which makes them doubly attractive and us doubly frustrated. ~X(

For what it's worth, that's my take on things.

But thanks for an interesting topic :)
 
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