Young into Old, Old into Young WTF?!

[daywalker]

I am 19 yo. I've always been attracted to older guys( 25+). I find masculinity attractive and i believe fully "grown" masculinity belongs to older men. Of course, not all older men have that. Most of them lack it. But those who have it...maan, i m head over heels.

I love men who are mature, who know what they want, who know themselves, bla bla bla. Of course, a hint of immaturity and other things, sense of humour are important as well.

A wrinkly face, some scars, mature body, etc.



My point is... I find it normal for younger folks to be attracted to men. Not boys, not 20 something guys....but men.

What i don't get, is why do men get attracted to boys? Ewww. Yuck. I'm talking about considerable age differences.

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35-19

Why? What do you men, like about us young folks? What is it that attracts you?

 

[MaximumT]

It's an interesting question, and not a very easily answered one as well.
Just like some have a fetish for bondage, feet etc., and it can't be explained, so is the attraction between older and younger men. Some things just are. You could dig deep down and make psychological evaluations and still not come to a conclusion as to why, just as homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexuality can't be explained. It's a very complex thing.
Maybe younger men, that are not so very masculine (the definition can be discussed), are attracted to older, masculine men because they seek someone who are different from them, that complement them. Perhaps older men give them a sense of security. The same goes for the other way around as to why older men are attracted to younger men. Perhaps they seek someone to take care of. In that way, in a relationship between a younger and older man, the two complement each other.
Of course, I'm no expert in this. I find the topic interesting, though.

 

[tiggertoo]

My point is... I find it normal for younger folks to be attracted to men. Not boys, not 20 something guys....but men.

What i don't get, is why do men get attracted to boys? Ewww. Yuck. I'm talking about considerable age differences.

40-16

35-19

Why? What do you men, like about us young folks? What is it that attracts you?

32 yrs and happy with it, but it's nice to look at and even mess with (date, fuck, make out) a legal young guy, now and then, especially when he's attracted to me. sorta reminds me of my fun youth, learning about guysex and maybe the younger dude can learn something from me and the years I put in. If the attraction goes one way, it prob goes the other way too.

 

[gb2000ie]

Young men, say in the first half of their twenties, tend to be at the peak of their physical beauty, old enough to be men rather than boys, but young enough not to have started to decay yet. In terms of PURELY physical appearance, it's up-hill to the mid 20s, then down-hill from there. Thankfully there's a lot more to guys than looks, so us guys over 25 have nothing to worry about.

B.

 

[daywalker]

@ gb200ie : It's kind of sad when you put it like that. "It's all downhill after 25yo." It's stupid. We should be young until 45 and decay only afterwards!

@ MaximumT : I find ur theory interesting, and a lot more "natural" than mine. Not that i really have a theory. Based on what i have seen around, most older men get involved with younger men just because they're fresh meat. Young, fresh, "at their peak", and not beacause they feel the need to "nurture" or anything.

That is why i see this as unnatural. I believe that there is a strong hint of pedophilia in this old man->young man thing. Because the other way around, it's more of an, OMG, you're so hot! Mature, big, grown up, security, etc....maybe throw in some daddy issues!

 

[gb2000ie]

That is why i see this as unnatural. I believe that there is a strong hint of pedophilia in this old man->young man thing. Because the other way around, it's more of an, OMG, you're so hot! Mature, big, grown up, security, etc....maybe throw in some daddy issues!

If older guys are attracted to pre-pubescents then it is paedophilia, but if you are attracted to sexually mature guys it's not. Guys in there late teens early 20s are not children, they are men, and not just any men, men at their most sexually potent. It makes sense that evolution would drive us to be the most attracted to the most sexually potent people, and the least attracted to people who are not sexually mature yet, and to people who are beyond their sexual peak.

Now - if we were pure animals, then I think we'd all be most attracted to people in their sexual prime, but of course there's a lot more to humans than our deep-down urges, we have brains, and we have complex emotions, so our attractions are not nearly so predictable or boring.

I don't think it's unnatural to be physically attracted to people in their sexual prime, 90 year old straight men still like Playboy afterall! But I do think it's a little worrying when things go beyond the physical into relationships with massive power asymmetry between the partners - that strikes me as psychologically unhealthy.

B.

 

[Behrluvr]

I'd say its uphill til maybe 60 , then maybe downhill. 35,45, 50 yo are the ones who are extremely hot. Its the 18 to 21 yos who are more like lollipops then real men.

 

[brmstn69]

I think it older-younger relationships make sense, at least physically...

Younger men are usually eager to please, but at the same time somewhat selfish and more interested in their own pleasure, whereas older men tend to be more giving lovers and get more pleasure from the knowledge that their partners are being satisfied. So it becomes mutually beneficial, the younger gets a sexual itch scratched and the older, a stroke to his ego...

My favorite thing about young guys is the fact that they are inexperienced... I love the look of awe and wonder on their faces as I take them to new heights of sexual pleasure, to the edge and beyond...

And the fact that they can over and over again before I even have my motor running, means that I can get them off once, twice, three times... and then announce that foreplay is over it's time to get down to some serious sex...:devil:

 

[tiggertoo]

That is why i see this as unnatural. I believe that there is a strong hint of pedophilia in this old man->young man thing.

no way is it pedo stuff. I dont wanna fuck a little boy or some gawky young teen, not interested. but a guy who is 18 or 19 knows about his body and is an adult who can figure out what he wants for sexual pleasure. and that's only now and then for a change, most of the time I get my nut with guys around the same age as me.

 

[MaximumT]

And the fact that they can over and over again before I even have my motor running, means that I can get them off once, twice, three times... and then announce that foreplay is over it's time to get down to some serious sex...:devil:

Sounds like a cat playing with its food before dealing the finishing blow! :rofl:

Younger men are usually eager to please, but at the same time somewhat selfish and more interested in their own pleasure, whereas older men tend to be more giving lovers and get more pleasure from the knowledge that their partners are being satisfied. So it becomes mutually beneficial, the younger gets a sexual itch scratched and the older, a stroke to his ego...

That's a very good point, and for some men's relationship, that's probably the case as well, even though they might not be aware of it themselves.

 

[daywalker]

haha, you make me wanna find an older guy ASAP

 

[luxferre]

i'm 33, my current bf is almost 19
i start date him when his 18th birthday, impatient, spoiled but he can manage to guard my feeling between his gay twink and his other friend, sometimes he is more adult than me , told me how to treat people, he is people person, i'm not, i work at server in the last 8 years at treasury dept.... he is my stabilizer in outside world. when we fight, 'broke up' never being a threat, he know my limit, he just upset......

never last long with 24+++ money issue, so many hidden agenda, usually i made commitment i don't care what you do on your on time but when you with me than you are my lover...absolutely NO blackberry messeger (BBM, its really irritating when keep ringing while eat or sex)
never lucky with 24+ cause blackberry or iphone is their life
i like conservative style, while you talk or eat eyes on you not that stupid gadget

 

[daywalker]

Yeah, i agree with you; i, too, like to eat in peace. no loud music, no phones ringing

 

[jw4833]

Well, first of all, I don't consider a 19 yr. old being with a 25 yr. old as OLD...lol..I was 19 yrs. old and was involved with my first bf whom was 35 years of age at the time we got together. He did not look his age at all. And to be honest, I have been on dates with 19-20 years old who starts off mature but however, if I did not do what they want or they were intimidated by my maturity or intelligence, I was often threatened with what if my parents found out that you and I were sexually involved considering I was 29 years of age at the time although I didn't look my age either. Nonetheless, I prefer older, mature gentlemen because as of late, many of those guys do not look their ages either because they too have taken very good care of themselves. To conclude, whatever floats your boat because age is nothing but a number.

 

[gb2000ie]

Yeah, i agree with you; i, too, like to eat in peace. no loud music, no phones ringing

I'm over 25, I have an iPhone, but I am familiar with, and use, both the silent switch and the off-button!

B.

 

[Casanova]

My point is... I find it normal for younger folks to be attracted to men. Not boys, not 20 something guys....but men.

What i don't get, is why do men get attracted to boys? Ewww. Yuck. I'm talking about considerable age differences.

40-16

35-19

Why? What do you men, like about us young folks? What is it that attracts you?

Not everything can be explained in life, hell my first bf was almost as old as my parents (at that time twice my age) and most of my gay friends never understood why I wanted a guy heading for 40 and greying, as they were only interested in 'twinks' and 'boys next door'.

And to be honest, I never questioned why he was interested in someone younger, nor did it ever bother me into asking myself why I wanted someone older... hell, I never even considered him old to begin with =/

I always considered it synonymous to the question 'why are we gay?' or 'why are some of us straight, or bi, or bi-curious?' These things cannot be explained, because we just are, and we shouldn't judge or question someone else for having this preference, because in the end, we all have different tastes, and we should be thankful our preferences and tastes vary, because if we all were interested in the same age-group and things, a lot of us would be in a lot of trouble.

 

[topdog]

... What i don't get, is why do men get attracted to boys? Ewww. Yuck. I'm talking about considerable age differences...

... That is why i see this as unnatural. I believe that there is a strong hint of pedophilia in this old man->young man thing. Because the other way around, it's more of an, OMG, you're so hot! Mature, big, grown up, security, etc....maybe throw in some daddy issues!

So. A young man with "daddy issues" is fine, but an older guy attracted to someone young and pretty is a pervert? Hmmm... there seems to be a double standard there! Or, maybe just a lack of perspective.

The whole mentor / apprentice model goes way back in history - it was the norm for the Greeks. And think of it this way - since we don't get to pass our genes to the next generation, it's a way for us to pass down gay culture and knowledge to the next generation.

Funny, I have usually heard this argued the other way, as in "I can see why the geezer is attracted to the boy toy - but whatever does that young pretty thing see in him?"

As for the "over the hill at 25" thing - that is absolutely true as far as our physical bodies are concerned. (Doesn't mean that you have to look like it!) But our hormones change in the late 20's and growth stops. Remember, our ancestors rarely lived past 30. Our current habit of surviving past our 60s and 70s is completely abnormal as far as what evolution has equipped us for. That's why if you want to look good past 30, you have to work at it. Our bodies just weren't designed to even be around that long.

 

[c750dt]

I don't find myself attracted to teenagers. However, five years ago, when I was still one, that's what I wanted and people past their early 20s weren't very appealing. I like to stay within my age range and dislike a significant age difference in either direction. My taste in appearance tends to go along with my age and I don't enjoy bringing into my relationships a generation gap. I'm also grossed out by the daddy/son image of a gay couple.

However, I acknowledge there are some older/younger couples that are really into each other. Also, for some shallow couples, it's totally quid pro quo. The older person wants eye candy, the younger person wants some regular cash.

 

[gb2000ie]

I'm reminded of a related anecdote - my first BF was 6 years younger than me, I was 23, he was 17 (the legal age of consent in Ireland before anyone starts telling me I'm a criminal). He was my first in every way, I was NOT his first in any way. I learned a heck of a lot from him, because he was very experienced, and I was utterly in-experienced, despite the fact that I was the older one and he was the young twink.

B.

 

[daywalker]

why do i keep getting the busy server thing so often? is it for real?