Doctor Who Series 8 Opening Sequence

[RayDeath]

Great stuff!

 

[syko2d4]

some recent YouTube clips about the new Doctor:





on the bright side, Capaldi is only under contract for ONE series! YAY!!!! :dancing: and it's Jenna's last year, as well...AND Moffat will only be writing the first episode!!! YAY!!!! :applause:

they still need Scottish-to-English subtitles so Americans can know wtf Capaldi is saying!

imho, this series will bomb in USA because of Capaldi, no matter how much he is liked in UK...question is, whether or not that matters to BBC since they're part of the gov't in UK, but get US$ from sponsors in USA...

 

[zortek]

i'm really looking forward to peter capaldi's doctor ..

the first doctor i watched regularly was tom baker, although saw plenty of jon pertwee in repeats at the same time, and i am sorry to say it, but from the second show of his first series i could not wait for matt smith to be replaced ... although a lot of my feeling may have more to do with moffat's less than wonderful showrunning than smith's acting ability (i have seen him do good work in other series)

he couldn't hold a candle to tennant, davison, mccoy, (t)baker, troughton ......

and for us whovians, no matter where on the planet we are .. the accent is irrelevant

 

[garth33]

i'm really looking forward to peter capaldi's doctor ..

the first doctor i watched regularly was tom baker, although saw plenty of jon pertwee in repeats at the same time, and i am sorry to say it, but from the second show of his first series i could not wait for matt smith to be replaced ... although a lot of my feeling may have more to do with moffat's less than wonderful showrunning than smith's acting ability (i have seen him do good work in other series)

he couldn't hold a candle to tennant, davison, mccoy, (t)baker, troughton ......

and for us whovians, no matter where on the planet we are .. the accent is irrelevant

Thanks Z -my first "DOCTOR" experience was Tom Baker in reruns shown in the US when we first got cable TV in my town when I was a kid. I knew about the series from reading sci fi magazines (WOW am I dating myself:blushing but LOVED Dr. Who from the start...and I agree real fans of this incredibly long running series won't care about the accent. It's the stories and lineage Who fans care about - wherever they are!

a fan
g33

 

[ihno]

I'm jirmen and can understand him but you as a native speaker have problems? Stop complaining about the accent, syko. Thank god you can dl the subtitles.

And I hope that the show won't become "us mainstream", that didn't do good to Torchwood and could really harm doctor who.

I love the fact that Moffat will only write one episode but I fear that Marc Gatis will write the rest.

My fave doctors of the new doctors: Tennant and then the others. I didn't like Smith for his first three seasons but that had more to do with Moffat who always repeated himself (and I'm only willing to forgive self-parodies if it comes to Vivaldi and Handel) and bored with always the same story elements.

Old doctors: The love the first 3 doctors and Baker is also okay. The later doctors (with the question-marks) were not so good any more - which again had to do with the producer, Nathan Turner.

It's about time the show returns: I'm even watching "once upon a time" cause there's nothing on. What a dreadful show that is.

 

[syko2d4]

I'm jirmen and can understand him but you as a native speaker have problems? Stop complaining about the accent, syko. Thank god you can dl the subtitles.

And I hope that the show won't become "us mainstream", that didn't do good to Torchwood and could really harm doctor who.

I love the fact that Moffat will only write one episode but I fear that Marc Gatis will write the rest.

My fave doctors of the new doctors: Tennant and then the others. I didn't like Smith for his first three seasons but that had more to do with Moffat who always repeated himself (and I'm only willing to forgive self-parodies if it comes to Vivaldi and Handel) and bored with always the same story elements.

Old doctors: The love the first 3 doctors and Baker is also okay. The later doctors (with the question-marks) were not so good any more - which again had to do with the producer, Nathan Turner.

It's about time the show returns: I'm even watching "once upon a time" cause there's nothing on. What a dreadful show that is.

it's not just the accent - I've seen his work and don't think he will make a good, much less, great, Doctor...maybe Smith wasn't great, either, but he was pretty damn good, imho and, before you think it, NO, I didn't find him hot lol

agree with you on Moffat and, yes, Gatiss WILL be writing 1 or 2 episodes...think they should just stick to Sherlock lol





maybe our differences have more to do with tone than accents, etc....maybe you prefer darker while I prefer lighter entertainment? the world is dark enough so our entertainment should be lifting, not depressing, imho...

can't understand why everyone is so upset about my ONE LINE mentioning Capaldi's accent, but, since you brought it up, actually, there is a big difference between American English and Scottish English when heard by an American - maybe it's not so noticeable when you're used to hearing a British English accent or maybe it's less noticeable when you're not a native American-English speaker, but to me, it is...just like there's a noticeable accent difference between American English and Irish/Celtic English...and I'm sure if an American went to England or Scotland or Ireland, his accent would be noticeable, as well

also how many shows have you watched with Capaldi? I've seen him on Torchwood, The Musketeers, Skins, and one other I can't remember, and on all of them, his accent was definitely noticeable and annoying...as was he - annoying, that is...and in the Musketeers, he's supposed to be FRENCH - Cardinal Richelieu!

and it's not just a Scottish accent - Karen Gillan's didn't bother me at all and, even though David Tennant is Scottish, he chose to downplay his Scottish accent when he was the Doctor...why would he do that if there were no issues?

one last thing on accents - for those who said it shouldn't matter, why, then, has there never been an American Doctor??? Can you imagine the backlash in the UK if an American played the Doctor??? Even when that movie with the only appearance by the Eighth Doctor was a pilot for Fox TV in the US, they used a BRITISH actor!

as a bonus, just to show there's no hard feelings, here's the whole run of the Eighth Doctor - one movie - in full! enjoy!!!



...in case you're wondering, I didn't like Eric Roberts' New Jersey (or whatever it is) accent as the Master in that movie, either...

...and there are no subtitles for Scottish English lol

 

[zortek]

@ garth33, another long term whovian ... :thumbs up:

for me i have been watching the show all my life .. something truly unique and special

@ syko2d4. i preface this by saying there is no wrong in a personal reaction to a tv show, movie, music, book, painting, sculpture etc ... your interpretation is as valid as any, but so are those of others

for me and all the whovians i know (and they are plentiful), we were happy to hear smith was leaving. for me i would even say relieved.

and when it was finally announced that capaldi was the next doctor, we were all unconditionally positive about the news.

capaldi can act rings around smith .. and i have been more than impressed with every role that i can recall him in. i have seen him in the shows you mention and at least half a dozen more, and his presence in a cast is likely to make me interested in checking it out

now to a perspective from a long term fan's point of view. doctor who; while being a family show, and popular with children, has alway had an element of darkness .. it is vital to the nature of the show. if we are looking for lightness, bubble and froth there are plenty of shows that offer that, the doctor doesn't need to be light to appeal to children or general audiences (search the term "behind the couch" on wikipedia as a refernce)

hartnell, troughton, pertwee, (t)baker, davison, (c)baker, mccoy, mcgann, ecclestone and tennant all had darkness lurking ... even cushing in the non-canon 60's movies had this characteristic.
(while you may only be familiar with mcgann from the telemovie, remember that the character developed in the radio plays and books)

the darkness is essential to the character of the doctor .. he is the last of his kind, and responsible for that being so. he has taken the role of guardian of the universe on of his own volition, and despite his (varying degrees of a) non violent nature, someone has to lose in all of his actions and confrontations. even before he was the last timelord he was at odds with the others, to the point even of having been exiled to earth without a functioning tardis during most of the pertwee tenure
he has known and lost many friends and companions, some of whom have died on his watch. i remember being deeply moved as a younger viewer at the death of adric for example, something the doctor was at least partially directly responsible for.

to have such a character without darkness, regret, or even guilt, is unconvincing.

as for an american playing the doctor .. you are right .. i would be extremely resistant; but not for the reason you may imagine.

in the uk, and places like here in australia. nz, canada etc .. the show is a genuine institution. actors have grown up with the show, and that knowledge of the history and character is essential to the show.

a recent run of docos preceding the 50th anniversary show proved this .. even the actors who had played bit parts years ago, let alone those from the recent years, can talk in depth about the canon, and all love and respect the show.
further, they embrace the fact that they are forever primarily and indelibly linked with the show, and are proud to be so. the usa is so far behind in this essential characteristic of the show that it is highly unlikely that any american actor could take it on convincingly and satisfy the international audience.


@ all .. how's this for a fantasy .. imagine the great neil gaiman as the showrunner ..
responsible for the script of the best smith episode (the doctor's wife) .. let alone sandman, brilliant dark fantasy novels and several cool movies as well. he loves the show, and has the mind and talent to do it well ....

 

[ihno]

maybe our differences have more to do with tone than accents, etc....maybe you prefer darker while I prefer lighter entertainment? the world is dark enough so our entertainment should be lifting, not depressing, imho...

I prefer intelligent entertainment. There is a current mode/attitude to make things "dark" in entertainment: movies like the new Batman-series or awful tv-shows like Stargate Universe, where all the people are psychos and it's all about "characters". Don't like that. Dark or light - it had to be honest and upright. Some good written shows like "breaking bad" managed to start as a comedy and then turn into something else.

I can't understand why everyone is so upset about my ONE LINE mentioning Capaldi's accent,

To ME you have mentioned that four or five times so far.

also how many shows have you watched with Capaldi?

I have noticed him at Torchwood and liked him right away.
And I'm happy that we don't see a 15 year old doctor but an actor that doesn't fit into the youthism. Plus it was well introducted in the script of the special to have an older doctor again.

one last thing on accents - for those who said it shouldn't matter, why, then, has there never been an American Doctor???

I hope that the BBC won't try to make doctor who more palatable for the american market but keep that distinct british touch.

...in case you're wondering, I didn't like Eric Roberts' New Jersey (or whatever it is) accent as the Master in that movie, either...

That movie was a bit bad

 

[syko2d4]

okay, you got me! I'm not a life-long Whovian, just a New Whovian (or whatever we're called), ever since "The Eleventh Hour," and while my initial reaction to Capaldi taking over the TARDIS was, in his own words,




I will probably watch the first episode, despite my misgivings, and see how it goes before I make a final decision...I didn't really like Eccleston or Tennant at first, either, but immediately liked Smith - he was fun! he was alive! he was manic! no more moribund, self-loathing, dour spectre So, I guess, to be fair, I should give Capaldi at least a chance to show what he does.

as to the Doctor killing every Time Lord and Dalek...well, according to "The Day of the Doctor," he didn't...he - and every earlier version of him (and one later version) - just moved Gallifrey to a pocket universe and let the Daleks destroy themselves in their attack on Gallifrey.

btw, I may be wrong on this, but imho Agatha Christie getting chased around by giant bees doesn't really seem like "intelligent entertainment"

and, for the record, I did like Breaking Bad

 

[ihno]

btw, I may be wrong on this, but imho Agatha Christie getting chased around by giant bees doesn't really seem like "intelligent entertainment"

Unfortunately my limited English skills don't allow me to define "intelligence" in this context. What a pity. Anyhow, even this is still more intelligent than "Once upon a time", "Arrow" or whatever major hits run on ABC NBC etc. But yes, the historical episodes at doctor aren't always that great.

 

[zortek]

@ syko2d4 ... i didn't say that he killed the timelords .. i said he was the last of his kind .. there is a difference (especially for a time traveller who can/has/will live/lived a long time) ... just because he didn't kill them does not mean he isn't responsible for being the last of his kind - and just because we have not seen it yet does not mean it didn't happen, or won't happen

it's timey-wimey

what is in our future in the narrative can be in the character's past

the beauty of time travel stories is the way that what appear to be contradictions at first glance can be resolved from the point of view of the larger narrative

and even in the pre Day Of The Doctor shows, the Master was still extant ...
(and he's a timelord too)

(and what a tour-de-force simm was as the master ... he and tennant were a joy to behold)

this show, as with most of this genre, has a "flexible reality" ...
if you try to be too pedantic about it all you paint it into an impractical corner
.. and it is, after all, a fantasy


anyway .. i hope you can get over the loss of smith .. and don't forget that he was bitching about leaving the show for hollywood from his first season ... he and hollywood can have each other now

 

[syko2d4]

@ ihno

well, it was an episode with the 10th Doctor and Donna Noble, "The Unicorn and the Wasp," so not exactly historical...

and you're right about those other shows not matching Doctor Who - I don't think I watched even one episode of those...

but just out of curiosity, what are your five± favorite episodes (one- or two-parters) from Doctor Who in the current era? if you're wondering, here are mine - in no particular order (actually, when thinking about it, I had to have 7 lol):

• The Eleventh Hour
• Blink
• The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang
• Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
• The End of Time
• The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon
• Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead

and you wanna talk about Whovians? how about a band that writes and sings songs about it???





and if you're looking for one more thing to disagree with me about, I hate the new TARDIS interior!

 

[syko2d4]

@ syko2d4 ... i didn't say that he killed the timelords .. i said he was the last of his kind .. there is a difference (especially for a time traveller who can/has/will live/lived a long time) ... just because he didn't kill them does not mean he isn't responsible for being the last of his kind - and just because we have not seen it yet does not mean it didn't happen, or won't happen

it's timey-wimey

what is in our future in the narrative can be in the character's past

the beauty of time travel stories is the way that what appear to be contradictions at first glance can be resolved from the point of view of the larger narrative

and even in the pre Day Of The Doctor shows, the Master was still extant ...
(and he's a timelord too)

(and what a tour-de-force simm was as the master ... he and tennant were a joy to behold)

this show, as with most of this genre, has a "flexible reality" ...
if you try to be too pedantic about it all you paint it into an impractical corner
.. and it is, after all, a fantasy


anyway .. i hope you can get over the loss of smith .. and don't forget that he was bitching about leaving the show for hollywood from his first season ... he and hollywood can have each other now

I was never good at wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff in school, either lol

and, actually, he isn't really the last of the Time Lords, since Gallifrey still exists in a pocket universe...

and I did like those episodes with the Master...saw he's in a new show now, "The Intruders" http://www.bbcamerica.com/intruders/



and, if you're interested in Tennant, HE's also doing a new show on Fox in USA based on "Broadchurch" called "Gracepoint" (US versions of British shows don't always work, but at least they have the original actor - WITHOUT his Scottish accent, btw - he almost sounds - OMG! American! or at least Canadian lol)


(Guess you should never have told me how to insert YouTube vids! lol)

and just out of curiosity, as a died-in-the-wool Whovian, what did you think when they cast Eccleston? and when he was replaced by Tennant? I think I remember reading that there was an uproar over Tennant, too - too young, etc...and, if I'm being too hard on Capaldi, maybe some are being too hard on Smith? an actor is somewhat constrained by his script and direction...as you mentioned in a previous post

 

[ihno]

@ ihno

well, it was an episode with the 10th Doctor and Donna Noble, "The Unicorn and the Wasp," so not exactly historical...

It was a story about Agatha Christie if you have missed that. So yes, it was a historical episode.

and you're right about those other shows not matching Doctor Who - I don't think I watched even one episode of those...

Arrow is not that bad. It's not that good but it's not that bad. If you compare it to Smallville it's even brillant.

but just out of curiosity, what are your five± favorite episodes (one- or two-parters) from Doctor Who in the current era? if you're wondering, here are mine - in no particular order (actually, when thinking about it, I had to have 7 lol):

Difficult to name five, will have to think about it.
I liked Blink and Silence in the library too, back then I didn't know we would see that same script for the next two years. And after that didn't work any more he made "humany wumany" out of "timey wimey".
I like the first four seasons more than the later ones.

and if you're looking for one more thing to disagree with me about, I hate the new TARDIS interior!

You really have to accept that in a 50 year old show the things simply can't stay the same. Even Moffat will go one day. I like that design since they have used elements of the 70s without making them ridicolous.

 

[syko2d4]

oh, that's what you meant by "historical" - thought you were referring to old (pre-#9) Who lol

as for the TARDIS, it's too cold - no heart, no soul, just tech...




VS.




as for Moffat moving on, I'd just like to tell him that old American saying, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!" which translates as, basically, "See ya! " lol

:cheers:

 

[syko2d4]

Been a little quiet in here, so hope this livens things up a bit...a couple vids I found on YouTube...the first one makes me realize how much #11 will be missed by me - and a lot of people judging from the comments on YT

and the second makes me wish I had gone to see the "Day of the Doctor" in 3D when it was showing here

Enjoy!

 

[syko2d4]

if anyone is still interested, here's the newest trailer for the new Doctor Who series:



AND here's where you can get info on the first episode of the new series being shown in movie theaters around the world:

http://www.doctorwho.tv/whats-new/article/doctor-who-series-8-episode-1-to-be-screened-in-cinemas-around-the-world

I kinda like the trailer...but first episodes are usually the best anyway, so it's wait-and-see time after that...

 

[ihno]

Yes, it's a nice trailer. Not a very original, heatbeat and explosions - let's make it ubersure so nobody will miss that it's gonna get dramatic.

I like the alien at 0:29, I hope it'll be an absurd one.

I'm looking forward to new doctor and I hope it'll be great but I'm a little sceptical because of the quality of the recent scripts.

 

[Spunky monkey]

Not as good as the key fob one floating around on youtube.

 

[syko2d4]

Not as good as the key fob one floating around on youtube.

do you have a link to that? would like to see it