Theistic Satanism / The Left Hand Path

[SoleLove]

LGBTs are under attack... 'Duck Dynasty''s Phil Robertson caused many to express deep-seated homophobic sentiments oftentimes fueled by Christianity.

I keep reading homosexuality is a SIN everywhere!!! I read stuff such as: "fudge packers", "degenerates", "nature's defect" etc. etc. LGBTs do NOT need to hear what other think of their lifestyle! Why can't people just stop obsessing over the gay issue? All LGBTs want and demand is equal rights. That's all!


One good way of deprogramming oneself from the Judeo-Christian paradigm is to, of course, research Christianity from all its angles (not just from Christian sources) AND practise an opposite faith.

Theistic Satanism is one of them (and, alas, the most feared one). It questions everything, dissect everything and puts one in sync with the Universe's Dark Lord named Satan... I was raised a Christian (Roman Catholic) but was always exposed to Voodoo and other faiths. I discovered Buddhism in late 2004. I also got into occult studies and practice around the same time.


I then slowly entered into Satanism in 2007. I chose Theistic Satanism 'cause I really DO see Satan as a real (and benevolent) Entity, not just a symbol as Atheistic Satanists do. But it's only in early 2011 or so that I completely severed all ties with Christianity, as odd as it may seem. It took me a long time to deprogram myself and Theistic Satanism helped achieve that.


In Theistic Satanism, you are invited to perform renunciation rites, even blasphemy rites and are given a platform to truly express your true desires. LGBTs are totally welcome and, as you may guess, homosexuality is NOT a sin in Theistic Satanism or any other form of Satanism (and Luciferianism, Setianism etc.) for that matter...

Those involved in occult studies and the Left Hand Path might know that some Spirits actually approve of homosexuality and even assist LGBTs; Spirits such as Asmodeus, Sitri, Pan, Bacchus (Dionysus), Erzulie Freda Dahomey, Erzulie Dantor, Baron Samedi, Baron Lundy, Baron Limba, Ayyappan, Rāgarāja and even more!

In all branches of the occult, you're invited and encouraged to develop & fortify your occult, psychic powers (third eye, chakras, aura, yoga etc.) and truly develop yourself, something you can't really do in many branches of Christianity.


Here are some good links to start practicing Theistic Satanism:

http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/invocation.html
http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/rituals/new/init-rite.html
http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/geifodd/exorcism.html
http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/geifodd/sitemap.html

 

[SoleLove]

Also, Theistic Satanism gives tips to rid yourself of fears of Hell. I am now completely deprogrammed. It's a process that took me years to achieve.

"Also welcome here are people who are strongly considering leaving hardcore Christianity and exploring alternatives including theistic Satanism.

Appropriate topics here include not only Satanism, the occult, and comparative religion, but also ex-Christian-related topics, such as dealing with ultra-Christian parents, overcoming a lingering fear of hell and other after-effects of one's upbringing, and practical difficulties with either leaving or otherwise dealing with ultra-Christian relatives, neighbors, etc."

http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/group/TSxhX.html


"This rite has the same purpose as other blasphemy rites - to help you rid yourself of unwanted unconscious baggage left over from your background. (See: http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/rituals/blasphemy/purpose.html )

If you are from a Christian or Muslim background, it is hoped that this ritual - and the preparation for it - will help you get over such things as the fear of hell."
http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/rituals/blasphemy/cautious.html


"When I speak of the ritual on this page as the "ultimate" rite of blasphemy for ex-Christians, I mean "ultimate" in the sense of involving the one sin which the Christian Bible claims will damn you irrevocably, with no hope of forgiveness. It's far from "ultimate" in terms of sheer sensationalistic shock value, though. From a purely secular point of view, I must admit it's pretty tame compared to most metal lyrics these days. [...]

The rite below will center around a solemn, formal ritual renunciation of all three persons of the Christian Trinity. Or, if you were brought up in a non-Trinitarian Christian sect (you heretic!!! -- just kidding), you can renounce each of the three persons (or whatever you believed they were) without thinking of them as a trinity.


Why is this such a big deal? According to the Christian Bible:

... Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. (Matthew 12:31-32)

and:

All the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin. (Mark 3:28-29)


Does this seem utterly silly to you? Yet, at the same time, does it also creep you out? Good! Therein lies the potential for a deep inner transformation -- at least if you happen to be an ex-Christian. (See The purpose of blasphemy in Satanism.) But, when you perform the rite, say your renunciation of the Trinity firmly -- do not waver! One of the benefits of the renunciation rite is that, thereafter, you can overcome a lot of irrational inhibitions by telling your subconscious mind that you are going to hell anyway. [...] Hence the ritual should be performed in such a way that, if Christian theology were true, you really would be damned irrevocably, with no hope of escape.

[...] The purpose of the renunciation rite is to help you banish any remaining purely irrational fears, after you have fully addressed your fears on a rational level by examining the arguments both for and against traditional Christian beliefs and making an informed decision against them."

http://anon.projectarchive.net/?http://theisticsatanism.com/rituals/blasphemy/renunciation.html

 

[brmstn69]

Um...Yeah...

Hail Satan, or whatever...

And I thought Jehovah's Witnesses were bad about recruiting...

That said, we at GH do believe in freedom of speech, but in the future remember that all external links must be anonymized...

P.S. "Practice" is spelled with a "C" not a "S"...

 

[SoleLove]

It's not so much recruiting... It's spreading the word and sharing an experience. Christians do that all the time. That's how Christianity became mainstream. Why not for once discuss Satanism and let people know about that form of spirituality and philosophy?

 

[tonka]

If you can't recruit "Satan's little helper", you need a new pitch.

 

[lhardwick69]

I am one to think differently people have a right to their opinion--they can hate homosexuality--they can hate people having sex out of wedlock and so on--I don't think that just because I am gay that my opinions are more important than others..the man said what he felt about it and what is sad is that I am sure a lot of gay people watched the show themselves but after this I doubt if a lot of them still do-and if they do then that's that persons prerogative --

the only time I have a problem with others hating something and saying something about it is when they cross the line and begin attacking others beating them kicking them and in some cases killing them--that's when I have a problem with it--

I really don't care what others think of my homosexuality and I think its time that those that do care what others think of their homosexuality need to quit being so high and mighty and realize that not everyone loves one another--there are still people that hate black men Asians an so on and they have that right--

as to whether I believe in heaven or hell--haven't believed in that shit since I was 14--just too many things in the bible that's stupid --that tries to tell me how to live my life--
but how do you believe in a god--that lets his child die--on a cross--how do you believe in a god that warns a man to build a ark as there will be a mass flood where thousands will die--and so on--how can I and how can anyone believe in a god that cant practice what he preaches--thou shalt not kill--but yet he killed thousands in that flood and thousands of people have been killed in the name of god and name of Christianity than any religion combined-



but back to original topic-he has a right to his opinion .. but in the public eye and on a tv show where they probably signed contracts to keep beliefs out of it--but still he is allowed to his opinion

 

[Martinus]

Someone been reading Dennis Wheatley?

 

[bigsal]

If still today have credit on these things, the human race is put bad. :worried:

 

[lhardwick69]

I think that for most part religion is killing the world--Christianity was created in a time of need --people needed something to believe in and Christianity was created--I think the people that killed jesus was also the ones that took his body to make others believe he had risen from the grave--

and all the things from 10 commandments to others things deemed to be Christian like were stolen from other religions--read around and see a lot of the beliefs of Christianity was in other religions before it was created silly isn't it

 

[regnomraw]

If there can be an all encompassing entity called God, then it must encompass everything - good and bad. Otherwise there is something larger than this God.

Overwhelmingly the problem with religion is that rather that everything is taken at face value and people don't force themselves to think about issues and everything is treated black and white - whereas in real life nothing is that clear.

 

[clh_hilary]

Um...Yeah...

Hail Satan, or whatever...

And I thought Jehovah's Witnesses were bad about recruiting...

That said, we at GH do believe in freedom of speech, but in the future remember that all external links must be anonymized...

P.S. "Practice" is spelled with a "C" not a "S"...

Not if you're using British English and using it as a verb.

 

[brmstn69]

Not if you're using British English and using it as a verb.

Little known fact...

American English has evolved much more slowly than British English and is actually the more proper and purer form of the language. Google it!

 

[clh_hilary]

Little known fact...

American English has evolved much more slowly than British English and is actually the more proper and purer form of the language. Google it!

Irrelevant...

 

[regnomraw]

I think even in American English there is a distinction between practice and practise. Practise is the verb form and practice is the substantive/nominative form.

This distinction exists in Australian English.

 

[clh_hilary]

I think even in American English there is a distinction between practice and practise. Practise is the verb form and practice is the substantive/nominative form.

This distinction exists in Australian English.

Australian English is a mix of British and American English, with a tendency towards British English.

In American English, it's always 'practice'.

Anyhow it's irrelevant. If it is a form used by a large group of people, not to mention a 'recognised', traditionally group of native English speakers, then it's not 'wrong'. Especially not when it's in all major dictionaries and commonly recognised by linguists to not be 'wrong'. Language evolves, no matter where and when. Makes no sense to hold onto the 'original' or whatever. Or we will be using Latin not this evolved gibberish.

Also, whether something is closer to the original is not really a valid point either. Cantonese sounds closer to the 'original' than Mandarin. Doesn't make Mandarin 'wrong' and Cantonese 'right', or vice versa.

 

[SoleLove]

I am one to think differently people have a right to their opinion--they can hate homosexuality--they can hate people having sex out of wedlock and so on--I don't think that just because I am gay that my opinions are more important than others..the man said what he felt about it and what is sad is that I am sure a lot of gay people watched the show themselves but after this I doubt if a lot of them still do-and if they do then that's that persons prerogative --

the only time I have a problem with others hating something and saying something about it is when they cross the line and begin attacking others beating them kicking them and in some cases killing them--that's when I have a problem with it--

I really don't care what others think of my homosexuality and I think its time that those that do care what others think of their homosexuality need to quit being so high and mighty and realize that not everyone loves one another--there are still people that hate black men Asians an so on and they have that right--

as to whether I believe in heaven or hell--haven't believed in that shit since I was 14--just too many things in the bible that's stupid --that tries to tell me how to live my life--
but how do you believe in a god--that lets his child die--on a cross--how do you believe in a god that warns a man to build a ark as there will be a mass flood where thousands will die--and so on--how can I and how can anyone believe in a god that cant practice what he preaches--thou shalt not kill--but yet he killed thousands in that flood and thousands of people have been killed in the name of god and name of Christianity than any religion combined-



but back to original topic-he has a right to his opinion .. but in the public eye and on a tv show where they probably signed contracts to keep beliefs out of it--but still he is allowed to his opinion

I disagree. Yes, people may have different opinions but many people commit suicide over such mentalities which makes LGBT activists' opinion better. In some countries, 40 year-olds can legally marry 8 year-olds and have full penetrative sex with them... Would you say their opinion is just as good as ours???

 

[regnomraw]

I disagree. Yes, people may have different opinions but many people commit suicide over such mentalities which makes LGBT activists' opinion better. In some countries, 40 year-olds can legally marry 8 year-olds and have full penetrative sex with them... Would you say their opinion is just as good as ours???

That's true; moral relativism is a difficult point to argue. Mostly though, people will read religious texts and pick out the points they like and ignore the ones they don't. In the Bible, slavery is legal but you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who would support the barbaric practice now. (Unless you're talking about BDSM slavery).

 

[clh_hilary]

I disagree. Yes, people may have different opinions but many people commit suicide over such mentalities which makes LGBT activists' opinion better. In some countries, 40 year-olds can legally marry 8 year-olds and have full penetrative sex with them... Would you say their opinion is just as good as ours???

The difference is that 8-year-olds are not adults. Sex between consenting adults are of nobody else's business. I don't think it's necessarily wrong for someone to dislike gay people (out of personal preference). I can dislike some things irrationally and not be 'wrong' about it. There are of course wrong ways of disliking something, like saying that they dislike gays because of The Bible but they don't follow any other item listed in the exact same book. There's also a huge difference between saying that you do not like something, and that something is wrong (or with any other adjective - unnatural, immoral, bad, etc). The thing is, you keep your opinion to yourself. I can have sex with a guy, or a girl, and frankly it doesn't concern you.

 

[reasek1]

There's also a huge difference between saying that you do not like something, and that something is wrong

Hmmm, I think that people should be free to say they do not like something and then explain why, e.g. they don't like sodomy because it is unnatural. I might disagree with that, and I am also free to state my case.

 

[topdog]

I disagree. Yes, people may have different opinions but many people commit suicide over such mentalities which makes LGBT activists' opinion better. In some countries, 40 year-olds can legally marry 8 year-olds and have full penetrative sex with them... Would you say their opinion is just as good as ours???

So, let's recap the moral dilemma. Everyone should be able to:

1. Make up their own mind for themselves about what is right and wrong. In the US, we would say we get this from our First Amendment which allows us to practice whatever religion (or non-religion) we chose to follow,
2. Follow their conscience and be able to do what is morally right. For example, love whoever I choose, regardless of gender.
3. Express their opinion publicly about what they believe. Again, in the US we would point to the First Amendment which gives us freedom of speech.
4. Put their beliefs into action - I should be able to work to make make the world a better place, for example by voting for candidates and laws that are in line with my beliefs or protesting against corruption and injustice.

The problem is that last point is kind of in conflict with the first. Everyone has the right to work to remake the world according to their moral beliefs - but we don't all believe the same thing. (Otherwise their would be no point to #1.) I'm working to overturn anti-gay laws because I think they are morally unjust, and others want to ban homosexuality because it is morally wrong in their judgement.

Of course I think my position is morally superior - that's why I believe it. Everyone thinks that their moral views are the right ones and people who oppose those views are ignorant or evil.

I think the only way we can all live together is to recognize this social paradox and treat people with opposing views with the same amount of respect that we want from them. And doing that while at the same time we are all trying to make the world better, according to our own views.
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