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Do you belive in a GOD? just yes or no pls

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But not tonight, and not in this thread, we are off-topic!

I'm wondering that our last entries are alive. Strong mods would have deleted them.

Bye mate, I'm very tired, but suffering from insomnia, not eating my pills...

Regarding to wit (and laughter):

http://tinyurl.com/35f8849
 
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But not tonight, and not in this thread, we are off-topic!

I'm wondering that our last entries are alive. Strong mods would have deleted them.

Bye mate, I'm very tired, but suffering from insomnia, not eating my pills...

Regarding to wit (and laughter):

http://tinyurl.com/35f8849

Gordon, we don't mind threads going off topic ;) It's part of the fun of them. Very few here stay exactly on topic and that can make them interesting. Any good discussion wanders somewhat - plus we like this to be a little place of freedom , so do feel free to carry on ;)
 

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Yes there is some devine.. power in existance.
 

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found this thread -- lots of interesting comments and a lot of weirdness too -- my vote is no, sorry -- but i think having an ethical base is a good thing. don't kill, don't steal, don't lie, don't want what isn't yours (including your hot married neighbor) and be happy with what you have. most athiests i know are somewhat philosphical and adhere to judeo/christian ethics a lot more than any practicing jews or christians. most of my friends are liberal arts/sciences people though - i think that is kind of rare. its like the vegans i know take "don't kill" much farther than anyone else, but not many vegan jews or christians.
please don't get caught up in the ethos arguments though -- what hitler and stalin did was horrible -- trying to pin their crimes on athiesm is trying to rewrite judeo/christian history -- which includes lots of murder, rape, theft, coveting, lying, etc. that the usa is currently engaged in wars killing innocents for oil and drugs just exaserbates the problem -- please google "bush chirac gog magog" and you will be more than horrified at how we tried to turn a war to build an oil empire into a holy war.
 
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My belief in God is not based on any tradition and also not on feelings (you've mentioned how many gods people do actually worship in their lives - politicians, movie stars, money etc.). My belief in God is not based on that.

It's based on pure logical thinking: Monitoring all what exists around me, and in me, I can't believe there would be no higher Reason or Power behind all of that. But I do respect and actually admire those who - out of their conviction(!) (not out of the prejudices) say: "I don't believe in God!" because I just can't NOT to believe in him.
 

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I do believe in higher powers, but hen I think of God I don't think of a HIM i actually think of a Her.

Organized religion made me feel bad about myself, what I do and being born at all. I turned to more alternative beliefs. I believe what I believe and what feels right to me, not what somebody or some book tells me to.

Although I do believe that there really is only one ultimate force, but that everybody sees a different face of that being, the face that each person needs to see.
 

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lol just saw this post.. all i have to ask really is did the OPer think they would actually get just yes or no for an answer? and Yes.
 
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ok, lets spin this in another direction, do you believe in the church? people gathering together...

Poor question...the church is tangible...you can see it, you can touch it...you know it's there. Therefore, belief 'in it' is not required. You have provable knowledge in its existence. Anything for which you have provable knowledge does not require your belief.

Perhaps you might have asked..."Do you think the Church (presumably you are referring to every branch, worldwide?) provides the best way for Christians - (i.e. modern-day disciples of Jesus of Nazareth, known as the Christ) to worship God and to put their faith into action?
 
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I do believe in God (or a higher supreme spiritual or ethereal power - my God doesn't have to be called God) and I do believe that Jesus of Nazareth taught us a better way of living which benefits, not only us, but all of human kind (were we all to practice his teachings).

However, I struggle with many of the basic fundamentals of Christianity. I'm not sure I understand the Trinity, nor do I fully grasp the divinity of Jesus. I am not sure I believe in the virgin birth or many of the miracle stories, at least not as they are presented in the bible - basically, our only verified source of writings on Jesus - but then, I do not really consider Christ's divinity or the circumstances of his birth or his ability to conduct amazingly clever tricks - as central to my faith. I wonder about the man behind the stories in the gospels...what was it about this man - how special was he - how out of the ordinary was he - that people felt they HAD to write such messianic stories about him? These are the questions that keep my faith alive.

As for the church...I think it is flawed in many many ways, and has caused as much harm in the world as it has been an influence for good. However, it does provide Christians with the opportunity to gather somewhere safe and quiet in order to worship God and to pray. It also helps send missionaries all across the globe. The fact that it is itself corrupt, should not be a surprise to anyone. The Church is built and run by humans - of course it is corrupt and flawed. It could not be anything else...and so I feel that the church is as the church is. You either accept it, faults and all, or you reject it...but if you reject it then what do you replace it with? And yes, you need to replace it with something because Christians, by the very nature of their faith, will want to evangelize, will want to gather for worship with other Christians and will want to proselytize, and such actions would be much more complicated and difficult were it not for the presence in the world of an institution like the church.

So, no, I do not 'believe in' the 'Church' just as I do not 'believe in' the bible, but I do believe in God and in the teachings of his one true messenger, the man known as the Messiah, or Christ, who is Jesus of Nazareth. One of the most beautiful parts of the Christianity, for me, is the mystery of God. We cannot hope to understand or explain God, nor is there any need for us to try. I like mystery and I have no need to try to solve it...I am happy in the knowledge that there is much I cannot yet know or understand, and I am happy to think that someday the opportunity MIGHT come my way to find out more.

I hope this answers your question.

SNOME.
 
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I think that the body of Saint Francis Xavier, in the Basilica of Bom Jesus in Goa, is also said to be uncorrupted.
 
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