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High-Pressure Hydraulics by Citro?n
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The birth of a car step by step
And not any car!
Clichy near Paris, smelting works
Clichy near Paris, smelting works. The motor block
Clichy near Paris, forging and machining
Clichy near Paris, forging and machining crankshaft
Gutenberg - Paris XV - Motor machining
Gutenberg - Paris XV - Motor machining
Gutenberg - Paris XV - Test room for the motor group and final check
Nanterre near Paris - Ex Simca factory - Multi-parts - Assist the other factories
And not any car!
Clichy near Paris, smelting works
Clichy near Paris, smelting works. The motor block
Clichy near Paris, forging and machining
Clichy near Paris, forging and machining crankshaft
Gutenberg - Paris XV - Motor machining
Gutenberg - Paris XV - Motor machining
Gutenberg - Paris XV - Test room for the motor group and final check
Nanterre near Paris - Ex Simca factory - Multi-parts - Assist the other factories
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Saint-Charles - Paris XV - Gear boxes factory
Saint-Charles - Paris XV - Gear boxes factory
Left, a specific post for the hydraulic gearboxes
La Barre Thomas - near Rennes in Britany - Rubber parts and ball bearings
La Barre Thomas - near Rennes in Britany - Rubber parts and ball bearings
Asnières - near Paris - Hydraulics - Spheres assembling and check
Asnières - near Paris - Hydraulics - HP pump assembling and check
Grenelle - Paris XV - Transmissions
Saint-Ouen Les Epinettes - near Paris - Pressing metal sheets
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Javel - Paris XV
The historic factory, with the headquarters offices forground, was totally refounded by André Citroën in 1933.
The factory was demolished in 1976, offices in 1982.
After the Traction, Javel is dedicated to ID/DS, SM and H vans.
Ferrage
Ferrage
Ferrage
Body and plateform are assembled.
The DS nearly finished!
Electrophorese bath
Paint drying
Saddlery
The historic factory, with the headquarters offices forground, was totally refounded by André Citroën in 1933.
The factory was demolished in 1976, offices in 1982.
After the Traction, Javel is dedicated to ID/DS, SM and H vans.
Ferrage
Ferrage
Ferrage
Body and plateform are assembled.
The DS nearly finished!
Electrophorese bath
Paint drying
Saddlery
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Stocked without motor neither roof, waiting for the next stage.
The DS receive its motor from Gutenberg, two streets behind Javel.
The assembling chain.
Moving for the first time on some provisional wheels.
First finition
Second finition
Second finition, one car every 100 seconds
Is it really waterproof?
1959 - 1969, chain exit, the cars are changing but the set remain.
Toward the dealership now...
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First of aluminium, these fender grills are of inox sheet metal and bigger from May 1961.
They are assembled only on the DS 19 because the hydraulic fluid is more requested than the one of the ID 19 (assisted steering, hydraulic gearbox and automatic clutch) and it warm more. For the gearbox, the response times are too long. The constructor try to reduce the temperature under the bonnet. Later, with the centrifugal regulator that control the clutch, from August 1960, most of the problems are at last fixed.
From the model 1963 and the new front face, the fender grills are no more necessary.
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ID/DS model 62
Paris motorshow 1961 : The last in the "Grand Palais" and the first for the Ami 6.
Both big staircases were useful for the photographer.
New high pressure assisted brakes for the ID 19.
ID 19 model 62
DS 19 model 62
The new DS 19 dashboard.
Rates increase suddenly in Levallois at workshop Chapron with the arrival of DS Prestige then ID/DS cabriolet.
Production 1962 : 84.035
Paris - Chartres
Paris motorshow 1961 : The last in the "Grand Palais" and the first for the Ami 6.
Both big staircases were useful for the photographer.
New high pressure assisted brakes for the ID 19.
ID 19 model 62
DS 19 model 62
The new DS 19 dashboard.
Rates increase suddenly in Levallois at workshop Chapron with the arrival of DS Prestige then ID/DS cabriolet.
Production 1962 : 84.035
Paris - Chartres
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ID/DS model 63
The catalog enhance the value of the new aerodynamical DS front face. Citroën don't forget front wheels drive, hydropneumatic suspension and disk brakes.
DS 19
DS 19 with in background the Grand Palais where it was presented in 1955
ID 19
ID 19
Saloon, break and cabriolet follow the same body development.
Production 1963 : 93.476
In 1963, ID 19 become closer from the DS with the appearence of the option assisted steering (reasonable, 360 F).
At the opposite, the DS 19 is available with the mechanical gearbox of the ID 19 (free option).
The dashboard of a DS mechanical gearbox with gearshift and handbrake of the ID 19.
The catalog enhance the value of the new aerodynamical DS front face. Citroën don't forget front wheels drive, hydropneumatic suspension and disk brakes.
DS 19
DS 19 with in background the Grand Palais where it was presented in 1955
ID 19
ID 19
Saloon, break and cabriolet follow the same body development.
Production 1963 : 93.476
In 1963, ID 19 become closer from the DS with the appearence of the option assisted steering (reasonable, 360 F).
At the opposite, the DS 19 is available with the mechanical gearbox of the ID 19 (free option).
The dashboard of a DS mechanical gearbox with gearshift and handbrake of the ID 19.
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ID/DS model 64
No real novelty for 1964 but a pretty set of DS at Paris motorshow, in October 1963, for attracting the visitor.
Break ID 19
Back seat of the DS Prestige
Cabriolet DS 19
Two beautiful catalogs edited by Delpire with the photos from André Martin.
The range ID/DS
Production 1964 : 85.379
No real novelty for 1964 but a pretty set of DS at Paris motorshow, in October 1963, for attracting the visitor.
Break ID 19
Back seat of the DS Prestige
Cabriolet DS 19
Two beautiful catalogs edited by Delpire with the photos from André Martin.
The range ID/DS
Production 1964 : 85.379
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ID/DS model 65
Break Ami 6, ID 19 and DS 19 Pallas get a podium at Paris motorshow 1964.
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19
ID 19 break
New dashboard for the ID 19 (saloon and break), parallel wipers instead of opposite wipers for all the models.
Production : 89.314
Break Ami 6, ID 19 and DS 19 Pallas get a podium at Paris motorshow 1964.
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19 Pallas
DS 19
ID 19 break
New dashboard for the ID 19 (saloon and break), parallel wipers instead of opposite wipers for all the models.
Production : 89.314
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Too weak the old 3-bearing motor of the DS 19?
L'Auto-Journal in 1964 below this photo of a nice interior full leather DS 19 Pallas :
"Leather cannot replace a modern motor". Then, farer : "Citroën invents the car without motor!"
The constructor will answer one year later with the DS 21.
L'Auto-Journal in 1964 below this photo of a nice interior full leather DS 19 Pallas :
"Leather cannot replace a modern motor". Then, farer : "Citroën invents the car without motor!"
The constructor will answer one year later with the DS 21.
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ID/DS model 66
New DS 21
Front brakes air entrances are enlarged for all the models.
On the speedometer of the DS 21, the constructor adds the breaking distances!
Outside, only the monogram on the trunk door allow to identify a DS 21.
DS 21 in high position.
DS Pallas in front the Atomium in Belgium. DS Pallas exist in 19 or 21 version.
DS Pallas
ID break exist in 19 or 21 version
DS 21 Pallas cabriolet
New 5-bearing motor exist in 2 versions, 1.985 cm3 (DS 19) or 2.175 cm3 (DS 21).
It is not a new motor but only the third version of the old Traction one : Hemispheric cylinder-head in 1955, 5-bearing in 1965. DS 21 first models were indeed more performing but noisy, vibrating and greedy in gas.
ID 19 get the 3-bearing motor of the old DS 19.
Production 1966 : 99.561
DS model 1966 (the drawing of the tilted front wheel is not realistic).
New DS 21
Front brakes air entrances are enlarged for all the models.
On the speedometer of the DS 21, the constructor adds the breaking distances!
Outside, only the monogram on the trunk door allow to identify a DS 21.
DS 21 in high position.
DS Pallas in front the Atomium in Belgium. DS Pallas exist in 19 or 21 version.
DS Pallas
ID break exist in 19 or 21 version
DS 21 Pallas cabriolet
New 5-bearing motor exist in 2 versions, 1.985 cm3 (DS 19) or 2.175 cm3 (DS 21).
It is not a new motor but only the third version of the old Traction one : Hemispheric cylinder-head in 1955, 5-bearing in 1965. DS 21 first models were indeed more performing but noisy, vibrating and greedy in gas.
ID 19 get the 3-bearing motor of the old DS 19.
Production 1966 : 99.561
DS model 1966 (the drawing of the tilted front wheel is not realistic).
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Citroën, Chapron and Panhard stands at the "Porte de Versailles"
Like every year, accompanied by Paul Panhard (on the right), president of the Paris motorshow, the general de Gaulle is visiting the exhibition. They are about to stop at the Chapron stand. Maybe they didn't notice this beautiful cabriolet DS Le Caddy foreground equiped with a dashboard Jaeger, available in the accessories stores.
Jean Panhard, on the left, will succeed his father Paul Panhard (1881 - 1969) as motorshow president in 1967.
The large Panhard stand is the first on the right when we come in by the main enter.
On the pressure of Citroën, the new Panhard owner, the old constructor has to leave 1/3 of his stand to Chapron.
For the first and last time, DS Citroën and DS Chapron are face to face.
After Panhard disappearance, little stands of bodyworkers and constructors move to the building outskirts.
The "French four bigs" have all the central nave.
ID/DS model 67
5-bearing engine for the ID 19 and LHM (green liquid) for all the range ID/DS from November 1966. LHM is a mineral hydraulics liquid close from a motor oil that replace the LHS2, a synthetic hydraulics liquid. Never mix up both!
DS 21
DS 21
Production 1967 : 101.904
Like every year, accompanied by Paul Panhard (on the right), president of the Paris motorshow, the general de Gaulle is visiting the exhibition. They are about to stop at the Chapron stand. Maybe they didn't notice this beautiful cabriolet DS Le Caddy foreground equiped with a dashboard Jaeger, available in the accessories stores.
Jean Panhard, on the left, will succeed his father Paul Panhard (1881 - 1969) as motorshow president in 1967.
The large Panhard stand is the first on the right when we come in by the main enter.
On the pressure of Citroën, the new Panhard owner, the old constructor has to leave 1/3 of his stand to Chapron.
For the first and last time, DS Citroën and DS Chapron are face to face.
After Panhard disappearance, little stands of bodyworkers and constructors move to the building outskirts.
The "French four bigs" have all the central nave.
ID/DS model 67
5-bearing engine for the ID 19 and LHM (green liquid) for all the range ID/DS from November 1966. LHM is a mineral hydraulics liquid close from a motor oil that replace the LHS2, a synthetic hydraulics liquid. Never mix up both!
DS 21
DS 21
Production 1967 : 101.904
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ID/DS model 68
Secret, the DS new front face will be showed only at Paris motorshow 1967 opening. The poor journalist has to draw as well as possible these famous careened head lights for the annual magazine special motorshow.
New profil ID/DS
Break ID
DS 21
DS 21
DS 21
DS 21
Secret, the DS new front face will be showed only at Paris motorshow 1967 opening. The poor journalist has to draw as well as possible these famous careened head lights for the annual magazine special motorshow.
New profil ID/DS
Break ID
DS 21
DS 21
DS 21
DS 21
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DS 19
DS 19
DS 19
DS 21 Pallas cabriolet
We can see the weird motor position that is entering inside the habitacle. The constructor had to make a hole in the body for the access to the fourth spark plug! At the origin, DS was designed for a motor assembled in front and not behind the front wheels. For example, the Lancia Flavia flat-four engine would fit well to the Citroën.
In serie only for Pallas, Prestige and cabriolet models
ID 19 : Assisted steering + directional headlights = 699 F (1970)
DS 19 - DS 21 : directional headlights = 233 F (1970)
Production : 81.860
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ID/DS model 69
ID 20 : An idea to answer to Renault 16 and Peugeot 504
ID 20 and DS 20 are two new versions in the middle of the range powered by the same engine.
Yet, there is a difference : To make the ID 20 more nervous then more competitive on its market, the constructor use a final drive shorter 7x34 instead of 8x35 for other models. It is more nervous but more noisy too. For all the range, powers increase while maxi torques sadely remain.
ID 20
ID 20
DS 20 exist also in Pallas version.
New dashboard with some small push-buttons and wipers control behind the wheel.
Some firmer seats.
To occupy his huge stand, Citroën is creating some cars alignments!
Production : 82.218
ID 20 : An idea to answer to Renault 16 and Peugeot 504
ID 20 and DS 20 are two new versions in the middle of the range powered by the same engine.
Yet, there is a difference : To make the ID 20 more nervous then more competitive on its market, the constructor use a final drive shorter 7x34 instead of 8x35 for other models. It is more nervous but more noisy too. For all the range, powers increase while maxi torques sadely remain.
ID 20
ID 20
DS 20 exist also in Pallas version.
New dashboard with some small push-buttons and wipers control behind the wheel.
Some firmer seats.
To occupy his huge stand, Citroën is creating some cars alignments!
Production : 82.218
