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Be confident and be happy. Why?, Just because sun is shining and grass is green. Seriously, all magic of happiness and attractivity is "being good fried to myself" it's universal for anybody. So now you are beautyful so remember it! and don't forget make a smile every time when you're looking at you in mirror.:D
 

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Even if you're not having sex....have a wank! This is a porn site, after all.
A nice wank is a lovely little gift you can give to yourself. And it will keep you in touch with that part of your nature.
 

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Yes, pretty and confident people have sex and relationships. But.....as I write this, millions of people are having sex right now!
They are fat and skinny and tall and short. Their tummys are too big and their asses too flat.
They have wrinkles and cellulite.

Most of us are not great beauties. We polish ourselves up as best we can. And to our surprise, someone likes us!!!

Oh please Tonka ^.^ ! I working on my body -exercising and etc. I take care about myself and I still can`t looking on my body :p


I won't re-write here my first meeting with Alex but I can tell you that yes it was so sexual, but if you can pass over the physical you'll find sometime that as beautiful some are they are not always as confident as you would believe.


Hmm Jake, but why? I think that in my case is another.... I can`t change everything by working on myself. Only my temperament... that is really hard work.



Be confident and be happy. Why?, Just because sun is shining and grass is green. Seriously, all magic of happiness and attractivity is "being good fried to myself" it's universal for anybody. So now you are beautyful so remember it! and don't forget make a smile every time when you're looking at you in mirror.:D

Oh my! If I want to but... I can only vomit :p


Even if you're not having sex....have a wank! This is a porn site, after all.
A nice wank is a lovely little gift you can give to yourself. And it will keep you in touch with that part of your nature.

Hahaha. By the way masturbation is hard sin in my religion. :p But everybody do it. Hmm.
 
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Beauty isn't a guarantee that you'll have a relationship. My Alex is one of those hot looking guys and trust me he have been so used in its youth that he never believed he'd ever get a relationship. His first boyfriend used him so much, made him believe he was that special guy, while in fact the only things he wanted was sex and the social perks that Alex's brings with him because obviously when you're cute or beautiful you are surrounded by people (which out of 10 two will be your real friends). Most beautiful people feels as lonely as you are even though they are constantly surrounded.

I won't re-write here my first meeting with Alex but I can tell you that yes it was so sexual, but if you can pass over the physical you'll find sometime that as beautiful some are they are not always as confident as you would believe.
From Alex

What Jakey forgot to mention is that HIMSELF is a fucking model go check his picture in his profile or the first post he did in this board. He's as hot as I am I don't find myself as hot as he is but somehow he made me his shrine and I made him MY shrine, Jakey is a former porn model/escort trust me he's beautiful all around and has one of the most perfect body I ever had in my life. However Jakey is right beauty is often more of a trouble than a necessity I suffered a lot from being the type of guy that everyone wants to fuck but doesn't want to love.

I don't mind the sex, I'm such an horny bee, but I also was craving for love which I never got until I met my husband (Jakey). Please do not degrade yourself... nobody is ugly in my book, you may not be my style but it doesn't mean that you're not somebody's style, beauty isn't only physical, it's also very psychological, I used to model for an agency and I was surrounded with so many beautiful people, but they were to me all shallow and self-absorbed. Love is a difficult thing to find no matter how hot you look. I was lucky enough to find a guy that loved me for me not just my physical envelop.

Don't ever forget that we shit all the same way and that a beautiful persona doesn't make your shit smell better;) I wish you find the right person for you and don't close yourself it's the worst thing to do. You just don't know how attractive you may be to another person.


Love Alex :heart: Jakey's lovely boy toy and husband:p
 
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Oh my! here is no reason for vomit. You wrote you swim, play tenis and volleyball. So I'm pretty sure you got better figure than most of others. And about face, thing what makes it nice smile as I wrote. If people around you aren't able to value your beauty, just do it yourself. :p
 

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What Jakey forgot to mention is that HIMSELF is a fucking model go check his picture in his profile or the first post he did in this board. He's as hot as I am I don't find myself as hot as he is but somehow he made me his shrine and I made him MY shrine, Jakey is a former porn model/escort trust me he's beautiful all around and has one of the most perfect body I ever had in my life. However Jakey is right beauty is often more of a trouble than a necessity I suffered a lot from being the type of guy that everyone wants to fuck but doesn't want to love.



Oh my! it wasn`t be a good idea. Jake, I saw you! X_X. Well Alex you should be happy! ;)


I don't mind the sex, I'm such an horny bee, but I also was craving for love which I never got until I met my husband (Jakey). Please do not degrade yourself... nobody is ugly in my book, you may not be my style but it doesn't mean that you're not somebody's style, beauty isn't only physical, it's also very psychological, I used to model for an agency and I was surrounded with so many beautiful people, but they were to me all shallow and self-absorbed. Love is a difficult thing to find no matter how hot you look. I was lucky enough to find a guy that loved me for me not just my physical envelop.


I agree with you, that nobody is ugly and I think the same. But me....
I envy you that you found someone like Jake. :p . I`m glad that you are happy. ;)



Don't ever forget that we shit all the same way and that a beautiful persona doesn't make your shit smell better;) I wish you find the right person for you and don't close yourself it's the worst thing to do. You just don't know how attractive you may be to another person.


Love Alex :heart: Jakey's lovely boy toy and husband:p



Thanks! but I stoped finding my potential partner. I`m feeling good, alone (I have my family and it is the most important thing for me) . By the way I`m introvert person, so people dont like it. I realized that I don`t must pigeonhole myself. Who Am I? I will see with time. :)

Oh my! here is no reason for vomit. You wrote you swim, play tenis and volleyball. So I'm pretty sure you got better figure than most of others. And about face, thing what makes it nice smile as I wrote. If people around you aren't able to value your beauty, just do it yourself. :p

It is not true! :blushing: . My body is not good enough for me.But you introduced interesting point of view.:p



I don`t know guys, why you are so pleasant? :p Thank you.
 
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Oh my! it wasn`t be a good idea. Jake, I saw you! X_X. Well Alex you should be happy! ;)
Trust me Alex and I are very happy together, we are one of the rare long lasting relationship young gay couple where we both have total understanding on each needs whether it is social, sexual or emotional. Alex is my wall jack and I'm his plug.;)

I agree with you, that nobody is ugly and I think the same. But me....
I envy you that you found someone like Jake. :p . I`m glad that you are happy. ;)
You could have the very same too if you'd just start thinking a little more highly of your self. In a relationship the first person you should love above all is YOU.

Thanks! but I stoped finding my potential partner. I`m feeling good, alone (I have my family and it is the most important thing for me) . By the way I`m introvert person, so people dont like it. I realized that I don`t must pigeonhole myself. Who Am I? I will see with time. :)
First of all you're 19, therefore you didn't "stopped" you just haven't begin yet. Introvert are people that often keeps their feelings inside, while my Alex is very emotional and wear his emotions on his sleeve I am much more introvert than he is. Only him knows how to make me spit the chunk, others will have a very cold look or total indifference. Being introvert isn't bad at all, just choose when to be and with whom.

It is not true! :blushing: . My body is not good enough for me.But you introduced interesting point of view.:p
What would be a good body for you, and when you'll reach that goal would you feel happier? Learn to accept yourself the way you are. Don't compare yourself to me, Alex or any other dudes whether they are in your surrounding or on TV. I'm the kind of person that doesn't envy much anybody else, because the attention they crave for either being rich or beautiful isn't going to be provided by me. When I walk in public and see a very good looking guy or girl I am not the one who'd turn my head twice. Because I have been in the porn industry, all those hot dudes that you see on film I met and/or work with many of them and to me attitude is the most beautiful aspect of a person no matter the way they look. I wouldn't love Alex so much if he was that type of dude that craves to much for attention and have people telling him how beautiful he is every 5 seconds.


I don`t know guys, why you are so pleasant? :p Thank you.
We want you to realize that you're your worst enemy. Sure we haven't seen picture of you, but we do not believe one bit that you're that unattractive;)
 
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Thats fain You love your family. But look you won't live with them forever. When kids become adult They go out from the parent's nest. Mom and Dad will want to have calm retirement. Also your siblings will make their own lifes. So don't surreneder. Don't refuse your own plans. I'm glad you valued Jake's musculature, it shows that you aren't asexual. So try to start making contacts on some gay dating site. You can find there another good friends maybe something more. Don't be hurry, take it easy and do something. Do something for YOU!

No one has perfect body (btw: I recently thought that my almost sixpack has started to grow into Michelin style in last year). But I'm still sure you're atractive. Just try to make some contacts with another gays in Poland and let them rate your figure. It's only one way how to check out the truth about it.

We're pleasant cos you need it. But you know we can be advisors or coaches at most. We can share our experiences We can feel with you (many of us had similar problems). But We can't make your life better. This is only up to you.
If gay guys here on this forum are pleasant why you don't try contact some in Poland? :p
 

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Trust me Alex and I are very happy together, we are one of the rare long lasting relationship young gay couple where we both have total understanding on each needs whether it is social, sexual or emotional. Alex is my wall jack and I'm his plug.;)


I know Jakey! and I`m so jealous!. Anyway I wish you guys luck on yours way of life. It is so nice to hear. I heard that gay-relationships are usually short. It is sad... But I still hope that you aren`t, guys the only exeption. ;)

You could have the very same too if you'd just start thinking a little more highly of your self. In a relationship the first person you should love above all is YOU.



It is too hard to me! maybe I will try accept the way who I am.


First of all you're 19, therefore you didn't "stopped" you just haven't begin yet. Introvert are people that often keeps their feelings inside, while my Alex is very emotional and wear his emotions on his sleeve I am much more introvert than he is. Only him knows how to make me spit the chunk, others will have a very cold look or total indifference. Being introvert isn't bad at all, just choose when to be and with whom.



Being introvert person have pluses and of course drawbackes. In my case it have definetly more drawbackes. I know! I always having to be pesimistic. I should change it. Now I think that I`m bad person. When I look back I hurted many people, and what is intersting I still doing it!. Oh my...

What would be a good body for you, and when you'll reach that goal would you feel happier? Learn to accept yourself the way you are. Don't compare yourself to me, Alex or any other dudes whether they are in your surrounding or on TV. I'm the kind of person that doesn't envy much anybody else, because the attention they crave for either being rich or beautiful isn't going to be provided by me. When I walk in public and see a very good looking guy or girl I am not the one who'd turn my head twice. Because I have been in the porn industry, all those hot dudes that you see on film I met and/or work with many of them and to me attitude is the most beautiful aspect of a person no matter the way they look. I wouldn't love Alex so much if he was that type of dude that craves to much for attention and have people telling him how beautiful he is every 5 seconds.


Happier? no. I`m only would feel better and more confident.


We want you to realize that you're your worst enemy. Sure we haven't seen picture of you, but we do not believe one bit that you're that unattractive;)

But I am Jake... I can`t fix everything what gave me the nature. She didn`t give me too much. :worried: who cares? I can`t change , well I can only accept my appearance...

I'm glad you valued Jake's musculature, it shows that you aren't asexual. So try to start making contacts on some gay dating site. You can find there another good friends maybe something more. Don't be hurry, take it easy and do something. Do something for YOU!

No Sinnerr, personally I think that is not good idea. They are will want me for sex. Only for sex. I don`t want to know how I`m for another people. They are probably insult me. I`m menatlly weak like I wrote above.
Maybe I will life my live alone. I don`t care.
By the way, I only admire Jack body, (I thought before that I will see him face-photo. So I felt surprised. :p The photo shows definetly more of him body. haha

No one has perfect body (btw: I recently thought that my almost sixpack has started to grow into Michelin style in last year). But I'm still sure you're atractive. Just try to make some contacts with another gays in Poland and let them rate your figure. It's only one way how to check out the truth about it.

It is true. When I will be desperated... maybe I will start looking for a partner. But now... I can live that way... I guess.

We're pleasant cos you need it. But you know we can be advisors or coaches at most. We can share our experiences We can feel with you (many of us had similar problems). But We can't make your life better. This is only up to you.
If gay guys here on this forum are pleasant why you don't try contact some in Poland? :p

Polish guys? oh my! never. They are thinks by two heads. Every single guy who I met. And they are not pleasant - believe me.
 
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I guess two heads means balls. Well, maybe reason is your extreme atractivity :) . Maybe through net they would be more kind and calm. And also if someone is hurry to sex it doesn't mean that he has no feelings, intelect and so on. Just someone wants sex first and other things after. Someone wants these other things first and sex after. Both things are important and necessary. Experienced people knows it.

Ok, I'm not gonna force you to do anything. Do what you see fit. But saying "My life totally sucks" is bullshit, If you have this feeling don't talk about it, but do something with it! I understand that you probably need some time to thinking. But don't waste your time too much. You wrote that other people in your age are going to parties with friends and so on. I thought that you would like also do that (If I'm wrong excuse me for my last 3 post). And I'm sure that you could if you would have good companion. I guess you live in small town or village where all the people are bigots (so there you can't find anyone who fits it). Don't tell them truth. You said you're introvert so others probably aren't ussually asking you whoat you do what you thing about and so on. Keep it. Be careful, be in closet. But you can reach out on the net. And don't say that all gays are same, they arent same as all the people aren't neither in Poland.

I'm sure that in Poland is many guys like you. Lonely, in closet, living outside big city. Try to reach you never can tell if you won't find someone interesting. You know key word is "try" or better "still trying". I also try, tried and have fallen and trying again. Don't be satisfied with surviving. Try to live as much as is possible. I know guys who succesfuly act straight role and at the weekends lives without mask.
 

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When I was young (teens and twenties) I would not wear a teeshirt. I thought my body was just not good enough. I look back and see how silly I was. I was in pretty good shape ( a fit twink look). I'm not certain what changed, but I just got more comfortable. I'm in a teeshirt right now. So when I had a sixpack stomach, I hid it. Now that I have a secret sixpack (It's there, just hidden under a little belly fat), I'm ok with it. We are often our most severe critics. It's not just you.

One easy thing you could do, is jump into the discussions here. The discussions are fun and serious, silly and dusturbing. Some days I just groan and move onto the porn. More often I stop, read, laugh, ponder..... and add my two cents.
Don't worry about seeming stupid. We all post stupid replies. It's not uncommon for me to return the next day and read what I wrote. Stupid!!! And yes, I am. But it doesn't matter. People are kind.
Over the last few day, an Egyptian boy was very concerned about his future. A serious and interesting thread. And the constant discussion: PUBES! Shave them, trim them, let them grow? Every gay boy has an opinion on that. What's yours?
 

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I guess two heads means balls. Well, maybe reason is your extreme atractivity :) . Maybe through net they would be more kind and calm. And also if someone is hurry to sex it doesn't mean that he has no feelings, intelect and so on. Just someone wants sex first and other things after. Someone wants these other things first and sex after. Both things are important and necessary. Experienced people knows it.


Yea but... for me it is strange. I`m sending for example nude photos. Sex for me is not essential I can tell that it is superfluous. Ok. I lied. It is not most important thing. :blushing:. I saw that that some guys sell them bodies. It is disgusting. :worried:

I wearing a long trousers because I have too much hairy legs. I want to shave it but I scared that people see it.

Ok, I'm not gonna force you to do anything. Do what you see fit. But saying "My life totally sucks" is bullshit, If you have this feeling don't talk about it, but do something with it! I understand that you probably need some time to thinking. But don't waste your time too much. You wrote that other people in your age are going to parties with friends and so on. I thought that you would like also do that (If I'm wrong excuse me for my last 3 post). And I'm sure that you could if you would have good companion. I guess you live in small town or village where all the people are bigots (so there you can't find anyone who fits it). Don't tell them truth. You said you're introvert so others probably aren't ussually asking you whoat you do what you thing about and so on. Keep it. Be careful, be in closet. But you can reach out on the net. And don't say that all gays are same, they arent same as all the people aren't neither in Poland.


But.. my strange conscience don't let me on it. I did not generalize gay people. I'm only saying about guys who I met .At present, I discouraged. :)
I'm sure that in Poland is many guys like you. Lonely, in closet, living outside big city. Try to reach you never can tell if you won't find someone interesting. You know key word is "try" or better "still trying". I also try, tried and have fallen and trying again. Don't be satisfied with surviving. Try to live as much as is possible. I know guys who succesfuly act straight role and at the weekends lives without mask.

I must think about it.

When I was young (teens and twenties) I would not wear a teeshirt. I thought my body was just not good enough. I look back and see how silly I was. I was in pretty good shape ( a fit twink look). I'm not certain what changed, but I just got more comfortable. I'm in a teeshirt right now. So when I had a sixpack stomach, I hid it. Now that I have a secret sixpack (It's there, just hidden under a little belly fat), I'm ok with it. We are often our most severe critics. It's not just you.


Ok. If I will be handsome, I will find partner! who can be normal. Not like me. I trying isn`t surrender myself ans working on my body, but..

One easy thing you could do, is jump into the discussions here. The discussions are fun and serious, silly and dusturbing. Some days I just groan and move onto the porn. More often I stop, read, laugh, ponder..... and add my two cents.
Don't worry about seeming stupid. We all post stupid replies. It's not uncommon for me to return the next day and read what I wrote. Stupid!!! And yes, I am. But it doesn't matter. People are kind.

I have the same! but people aren`t kind always.

Over the last few day, an Egyptian boy was very concerned about his future. A serious and interesting thread. And the constant discussion: PUBES! Shave them, trim them, let them grow? Every gay boy has an opinion on that. What's yours?

Oh my! it is disgusting! :p
Definetly shave. It is more hygienic and more aesthetic. :p
 
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Hairly legs on a 19 year old guy. Sexy!!!
 

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I don't like too much hairs! it looks strange.
 
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Yes some people sell thier bodies, but there is not relation with your problems.
You would like shave your legs :) but you are are affraid about public opinion. So you can tell them "it's not your bussines" if they would ask or tell some excuse for example that you re profi swimmer who has to be shaved everywhere for lower friction in water. I know that it would be lie and sin. But being sinner is sometimes fain. Let experienced Sinnerr give you advice.

Throw out your strange conscience. And you fear too, you know it's normal being affraid a bit but don't be so scared. I know that your enviroment is disgust, much worst than mie was. I would say you have great courage when you came here on this site despite intimidation in church and school, seriously! Keep it going. Go on! Here is not your final station.

You said:
Yea but... for me it is strange. I`m sending for example nude photos
my strange conscience don't let me on it
I don't like too much hairs! it looks strange.


I guess you got strange time now. I had it same. Life is sometimes strange at all. sometimes beautyful. Nonstop one replacing opposite one, thats just life. Just don't surrender, go on and beautyful times has to come.

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Yes some people sell thier bodies, but there is not relation with your problems.
You would like shave your legs :) but you are are affraid about public opinion. So you can tell them "it's not your bussines" if they would ask or tell some excuse for example that you re profi swimmer who has to be shaved everywhere for lower friction in water. I know that it would be lie and sin. But being sinner is sometimes fain. Let experienced Sinnerr give you advice.


I should exercise my legs, then maybe I will shave unnecessary hairs.


Throw out your strange conscience. And you fear too, you know it's normal being affraid a bit but don't be so scared. I know that your enviroment is disgust, much worst than mie was. I would say you have great courage when you came here on this site despite intimidation in church and school, seriously! Keep it going. Go on! Here is not your final station.

Oh my! but how? it is impossible to throw out my conscience. Trust me. When I will do sth what is contradictory with my conscience then I feel like a totally crap.
You said:
Yea but... for me it is strange. I`m sending for example nude photos
my strange conscience don't let me on it
I don't like too much hairs! it looks strange.

Oh my God! I wrote "I`m sending nude photos, but I`m mean that people sends photos :blushing:
I guess you got strange time now. I had it same. Life is sometimes strange at all. sometimes beautyful. Nonstop one replacing opposite one, thats just life. Just don't surrender, go on and beautyful times has to come.

Hmm I will try. ;-)
 
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body-building is good idea at all ;-)

i think you mix two different things conscience and fear. conscience comes from you from your sense for justice from your expariences and so on. everyone has some. me too. but i really see no colision of my conscience and my sex. orintation, sex behavior. i just date a boy and have fun with him because i want to make pleasure us both. i don't want to make negative emotions of anyone. so my conscience is absolutely clear. yeah i know there are bigots, haters and another cockheads. thats their problem that they have decided for hate. i decided for love, definitely.
fear in case of coming out comes from threats.
simply, theoretically, if you would go to bed with another boy, there would be no logical reason for anyone to feel bad about it. but there would be very good reason to feel great for some two.

Wasn't it echo from the future? :)

Here fits classic cliche from facebook: "Like it!" ;-)
 
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You know... sth stired inside me.

Buy I still can't imagine it. Sex is nauseating! :blushing:
 
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I already mentioned in this thread that lot of boys before first sex see it like disgust. Prejudices. Forget it. I know it's not easy and it won't be immediately. It needs time. But work on it. Best thing what you can do is play some porn and enjoy it.
 

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I think that I watched too much porn... When I see muscules guys and then I would like look similar to them. :p
 
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