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I bought it for my laptop. It definitely takes getting used to, but no bad after that.

It may be tolerable, but it is still bad, not in a subjective way, but in a scientific way - http://refhide.com/?http://www.nngroup.com/articles/windows-8-disappointing-usability/ (Jakob Nielsen is leading light in the field of human computer interaction and interface design) - some go so far as to call him the usability guru. That's unscientific hero-worship, but he is someone who very much knows of what he speaks when it comes to the science of usability.

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I have just purchased a new laptop with windows 8, I hate it, I wished I'd trialed it before I bought it.I find it frustrating to operate.
 

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I have used it a little bit but they have changed the start screen too much. My personal computer is a Mac so I don't usually use Windows much anyway tho except when I'm at school or something.
 

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My new PC came with Windows 8 preinstalled. Its GUI is so awfully designed that I am thinking on reinstalling good ol' Debian, not to mention privacy concerns (backdoors, spyware and w/e).
 

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I know that there are 3rd party apps out there that bring back some Windows 7 functionality, but I'm talking about just vanilla Windows 8 as Microsoft published it.

Windows 8 Style (aka Windows RT, Windows Store, Metro) is pointless for desktops and is actually cumbersome.

The good things: It requires desktop users to learn keyboard shortcuts if they want to get around effectively. (The mouse is a productivity killer.) It has a task bar per monitor that you can configure to duplicate the task bar to all monitors or just show the items on that monitor on the monitor's taskbar. You can dock a Windows 8 Style app so you can see the desktop or another Windows 8 Style app on that monitor. It cold-boots fast. It has Hyper-V support. Windows 8 Pro can run Windows 7 programs and earlier. There are a number of XBox 360 games that have been designed to run in Windows 8 Style due to a similar API to Silverlight and WPF which is similar to the XBox 360 API. Alerts are more noticeable.

The bad: It shuts down and reboots slow. There is a separate task bar for Windows 8 Style apps. You can have Windows 8 Style apps on one monitor, even if you have one docked. All Windows 8 Style apps are confined to a monitor. You can move them to another monitor but they all go to that monitor including any docked apps. Only Windows 8 *Pro* can run x86 Desktop apps (which is anything that was able to run on Windows 7). Microsoft has added to the confusion by calling both 32-bit and 64-bit applications "x86". If any x86 Desktop app takes focus on a monitor that has an undocked Windows 8 Style app, that Win8 app gets put in the Windows 8 Taskbar. At most, you can have 2 Windows 8 Style apps showing, but they will not interact with each other (drag/drop/copy/paste various objects or text) like x86 apps will. The most interaction between Windows 8 apps is copying and pasting text. Multitasking with Windows 8 Style apps is very difficult because of this. Windows 8 Style File Open/Save As page doesn't include a "New Folder" feature. You have to code it yourself, unlike Windows x86. Windows 8 management tools have very little support for Windows 7/Server 2008R2 and earlier. There are many services that you simply cannot manage for older windows versions if you're using Windows 8/Server 2012 -- even just one version prior which is unusual for Microsoft's operating systems. Right-clicking in most Windows 8 Style apps opens a context menu on one of the sides of the display instead of where the mouse pointer is. Alerts look like Achievement notices (and use the XBox 360 achievement sound).

As a social media toy, Windows 8 (not Pro) is just fine. Windows 8 Pro is overkill in that case.

As a tool for research, management, development and engineering, Windows 8 *Pro* (the only version of the two retail that can run such apps) is nonsensical.
 

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Microsoft to reboot Windows 8 to address gripes

Hi Guys

I'm not to sure if anyone has heard this, but Microsoft is going to be releasing a update sometime later this year which is going to make some changes to the new OS system that many people worldwide is complaining about shown here >

http://refhide.com/?http://www.smh....ndows-8-to-address-gripes-20130508-2j6h7.html

I hope you all like it :) & Have a great Weekend Everyone! :big hug:
 
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I actually just got Windows 8. It definitely takes some getting used to, especially when the Start button is not on the desktop.

The metro or tiles as I call them is beautiful, but feel more useful if you have a touchscreen. The biggest thing I hate is setting up a User Account. You have to have an email to set it up and provide extra stuff that is more of an annoyance than anything else. Takes almost 10 minutes by the time your done setting up an account.

The update that's coming should fix a few things, including bringing back the Start button. I'm looking forward to that.

http://refhide.com/?http://www.usat...013/05/07/microsoft-windows-8-update/2140789/
 
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If you think Win8 is cumbersome with a mouse, try it with a touchpad or a mouse nipple. It's enough to make one consider going postal. You have to be very adept with a touchpad to keep the charm open, and it's impossible with a nipple.

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The stunning success of the StarDock add-on that restores the START button was what prompted MS to consider re-enabling the standard desktop interface. Yep, it only took them a year to figure out that we're not all using tablets. <rolls eyes> I was already very familiar with a large number of keyboard shortcuts, and I really need 'em with Win8.

I first saw an early Developer version of Win8 on a desktop, and said "WTF is this junk??" It took a while to navigate 'cos the handy little text descriptions at the bottom of the tiles on the Metro interface didn't exist back then. I had to learn the shortcuts by trial and error merely so I could get it to _do_ anything. While it's acceptable for a tablet, it's awkward for a laptop or desktop.
 

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I felt the same way. Windows 8 will grow on you if you wait a bit.. But it has confusing changes that are pretty useless unless your laptop has a touch screen. They made windows 8 for tablets and cell phones in mind.
 

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I felt the same way. Windows 8 will grow on you if you wait a bit.. But it has confusing changes that are pretty useless unless your laptop has a touch screen. They made windows 8 for tablets and cell phones in mind.

I'm now 6 months into the "Windows 8 Experience" and it is still complete and utter shit!

Yeah, it grows on you...

Like toenail fungus!:angry:
 

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I'm now 6 months into the "Windows 8 Experience" and it is still complete and utter shit!

Yeah, it grows on you...

Like toenail fungus!:angry:

Haha! Funny analogy! I got Windows 8 on a non touch screen computer.. But I wish I got it on a touch screen.. I think it would be a lot better. Especially on those tablet computers that turn to a "laptop" with a keyboard accessory and still act like a tablet when without the keyboard.
 

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Why the fuck would I ever want a touch screen? I watch PORN on my computer. The sticky keyboard and mouse are bad enough, I don't want the hassle of wiping finger prints, lube and cum off the screen...

 

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Windows 7 works just fine for me!

Metro interface sucks. It's for children!
 

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Why the fuck would I ever want a touch screen? I watch PORN on my computer. The sticky keyboard and mouse are bad enough, I don't want the hassle of wiping finger prints, lube and cum off the screen...


It's easier to clean cum/lube off a sheet of glass than off a keyboard. But if you're getting that shit on your computer, you need to be a little less gross and/or learn how to type one-handed.
 

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It's easier to clean cum/lube off a sheet of glass than off a keyboard. But if you're getting that shit on your computer, you need to be a little less gross and/or learn how to type one-handed.

It isn't the typing that I need both hands for...:p
 

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I actually like windows 8 I just wished it was more tablet style on a desktop -- like on an ipad you flick page after page of apps then open it --but what I would like to see is if I have 3 programs I can flick screen left or right to access whatever program I am running that would be awesome
 

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Microsft News Annoucment Update

Hi Guys

I'm not to sure if anyone has heard this announcement, Microsoft has just posted some details on some changes to fix there new OS system "Windows 8" on there blog page, they are now calling the update as "Windows 8.1"

Here is the full details i grabbed from the blog site :)

Continuing the Windows 8 vision with Windows 8.1

Before we launched Windows 7, we envisioned what the next version of Windows would need to deliver. We made a bet that the PC landscape and industry would undergo a significant transformation driven by an increase in mobility. That bet underscores the changes we made with Windows 8 – it’s a generational leap forward. We built Windows 8 for a world where touch is a first class interaction model, the same as mouse and keyboard; and where there’s a proliferation of innovative and diverse devices that are highly mobile, always on the go and always connected. Windows 8 was built on the reality that the lines between our work and personal lives have blurred.

We’re only a bit more than seven months into this new, bold approach to computing. The response to Windows 8 has been substantial— from new devices to strong app growth to key enhancements to the OS and apps. We’ve learned from customers on how they are using the product and have received a lot of feedback. We’ve delivered hundreds of updates to the product and to apps. We’re just getting started, and the potential ahead is tremendous.

Windows 8.1 will advance the bold vision set forward with Windows 8 to deliver the next generation of PCs, tablets, and a range of industry devices, and the experiences customers — both consumers and businesses alike — need and will just expect moving forward. It’s Windows 8 even better. Not only will Windows 8.1 respond to customer feedback, but it will add new features and functionality that advance the touch experience and mobile computing’s potential. Windows 8.1 will deliver improvements and enhancements in key areas like personalization, search, the built-in apps, Windows Store experience, and cloud connectivity. Windows 8.1 will also include big bets for business in areas such as management and security – we’ll have more to say on these next week at TechEd North America. Today, I am happy to share a “first look” at Windows 8.1 and outline some of the improvements, enhancements and changes customers will see.

Personalization:

In Windows 8.1, you’ll be able to do more to personalize the experience on your device. As people started using Windows 8, we found that people were using their Lock screens to show pictures of their families. So in Windows 8.1, you can turn your PC or tablet into a picture frame by making your Lock screen a slide show of your pictures – either locally on the device or photos from the cloud in SkyDrive. We also added the ability to take pictures with the built-in camera right from the Lock screen without having to log in.



Windows 8.1 offers more colors and backgrounds for the Start screen – including ones with motion.



You can even choose your desktop background as your Start screen background, creating a greater sense of unity and familiarity. And the Start screen in Windows 8.1 features a variety of tile sizes including a new large and new small tile, so you can organize your Start screen exactly the way you want it. It’s also even easier to name groups and rearrange tiles. You can now select multiple apps all at once, resize them, uninstall them, or rearrange them. We also found people were accidentally moving tiles on their Start screen so in Windows 8.1, you press and hold (or right click) to move things around.

You can view all apps just by swiping from the bottom to view all apps, and we’ve added the ability to filter your apps by name, date installed, most used, or by category. You want the Start screen to be about all the things you love. So when you install a new app from the Windows Store, we no longer put that app on your Start screen. Instead, you’ll find these apps under apps view as mentioned above and marked as “new” where you can choose to pin the apps you want to your Start screen.

Search:

In Windows 8.1, the Search charm will provide global search results powered by Bing in a rich, simple-to-read, aggregated view of many content sources (the web, apps, files, SkyDrive, actions you can take) to provide the best “answer” for your query. We think this will really change the way you interact with the Web and with windows making it quicker and easier to get things done. It is the modern version of the command line!



Quick actions include things you would want to do like play a song or video. Results from local files, apps, and settings are easily accessed in the same convenient view by scrolling to the left.

Apps and Windows Store:

We will be improving all our built in apps that come with Windows 8 for Windows 8.1. For example, the Photos app now has some new editing features that lets you quickly edit or adjust photos when you view them in the Photos app or open them from other places like the Mail, SkyDrive, and Camera apps. And our Music app has been completely redesigned to help pick and play music from your collection. We plan to talk more about updates to the built in apps in Windows 8.1 and some brand new apps we will be introducing in a future blog post.

We’re also making improvements for using multiple apps at once in Windows 8.1.



Windows 8.1 brings variable, continuous size of snap views. You will have more ways to see multiple apps on the screen at the same time. You can resize apps to any size you want, share the screen between two apps, or have up to three apps on each screen if you have multiple displays connected, you can have different Windows Store apps running on all the displays at the same time and the Start Screen can stay open on one monitor. This makes multi-tasking even easier. Also in Windows 8.1, you can have multiple windows of the same app snapped together – such as two Internet Explorer windows.

The improved Windows Store in Windows 8.1 is designed to show more info than in Windows 8 with detailed lists of top free apps, new releases, and picks for you on the homepage. The app listing is more descriptive and informative and includes an area for related apps to help with app discovery. Categories are listed with other app commands such as links to your apps and your account information. App updates install automatically in the background as well as they come through the Store. And search is available in the upper right hand corner for finding the apps you want.

Cloud Connectivity:

In Windows 8.1 your files can be saved directly to SkyDrive, so you can always have your files with you.



The new SkyDrive app gives you access to your files that are on your device or in the cloud, and files are accessible even when offline.

Also, when you log on to your Windows 8.1 device with your Microsoft account (Outlook.com by default), your device magically becomes personalized with your settings and apps, making switching or setting up a new device really easy.
PC Settings:

The updated PC Settings in Windows 8.1 gives you access to all your settings on your device without having to go to the Control Panel on the desktop. You can do things like change your display resolution, set your power options, see the make and model of your PC, change the product key, let you run Windows Update, and even join a domain – all from PC Settings. You can even manage SkyDrive from PC Settings as well and see how much available storage you have (and buy more if needed).
Internet Explorer:

Web browsing continues to be one of the most popular activities on any device. That’s why with Windows 8.1, you also get Internet Explorer 11 (IE11). IE11 builds on the advancements in IE10 and is the only browser that is built for touch. IE11 will offer even better touch performance, faster page load times and several other new features we think you will enjoy. For example, you can now adjust the appearance of modern IE11 to always show the address bar and you can have as many open tabs as you like. And you can access your open tabs in sync across your other Windows 8.1 devices.
Better Mouse and Keyboard Options

PCs today are evolving for a world of mobile computing where people interact with their devices through touch, and we designed Windows 8 for this. But we also recognize there are many non-touch devices in use today – especially in the commercial setting. As such we’ve focused on a number of improvements to ensure easier navigation for people using a mouse and keyboard.

We’ve improved the way you navigate to Start with the mouse by changing the Start “tip” to be the familiar Windows logo. The new tip appears anytime you move the mouse to the bottom left corner of the screen, and is always visible on the taskbar when on the desktop. There are also options to change what the corners do, and options to boot into alternate screens. For example, if you prefer to see the Apps view versus all the tiles, you can choose to have the Start screen go directly to Apps view.

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These are just some of the updates coming in Windows 8.1. We’ll be blogging more about these and other changes in the coming weeks. As you’ve heard us talk about before, Windows 8.1 will be available later this year as a free update for consumers to Windows 8 through the Windows Store the same way customers get app updates today.

Beginning June 26th, and timed with the start of Build, our developer conference, you will be able to check out these improvements for yourself with a preview of Windows 8.1 that will be released. At Build, we’ll also be sharing more about Windows Embedded, which will be updated in the same timeframe as Windows 8.1. We’re aligning the platforms even more to bring Windows to form factors of all types, including not only tablets and PCs, but also the growing category of industry devices such as ATMs, point of service (POS) terminals, and kiosks.

Windows 8 has been a bold, necessary move towards mobility for the PC industry – pushing ourselves and our industry ahead with a touch-first approach that is redefining the PC as we know it, while offering the best of all worlds across any device at any time. Our commitment to that vision – and to always improving - remains the same as we stay the course of the evolution of Windows with Windows 8.1. We’ve been watching, we’ve been listening; Windows 8.1 will continue to build on what you love bringing the latest advancements in hardware, apps, cloud services and the OS to enable a unique experience in everything you do.

More to come. Thanks for reading.

Antoine Leblond,
Corporate Vice President, Windows Program Management

News Source: http://refhide.com/?http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2013/05/30/continuing-the-windows-8-vision-with-windows-8-1.aspx

I hope you all like it;) and Have a Great Weekend Everyone! :big hug:
 

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Why don't they just admit that it's fucking garbage...
 

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That was a very long-winded way of saying "we're not giving up on our fundamentally flawed idea - you are going to bloody well like it - RIGHT!"

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